Roswell ufo crash real or fake?

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Reck
What is the true story behind that incident? Supposedly immediately after the object crashed the air force did a press release (that appeared in papers) that confirmed that is was indeed an extrerterestial craft. Then once it got into the higher ups they forced a cover up.

How come when something is covered up, you get a few loonies who instantly assume that what they're covering up is something completely fascinating, some amazing thing that the world has never seen?

Wouldn't a rational person guess that it's probably something normal, but for some reason those who are covering it up have something to hide?

For instance, if a politician was spotted outside a hotel room at night and tried to cover it up, my first guess wouldn't be that he's meeting with secret agents sent from another galaxy to arrange a takeover of Earth. My first guess would be that he was probably banging some mistress and he doesn't want people to know.

As far as the Roswell coverup, I think that something crashed and they covered it up, but I don't think it was some amazing UFO, blah blah blah. It was probably just a spy aircraft that they were testing so they could use it against the Soviets. Testing things like that out in the desert was commonplace at the time. And since the gov doesn't comment on secret programs, you can't expect them to tell you what really happened.

To remove your tinfoil hat, I recommend following some advice.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

lol, there you go using common sense. Shame on you!

It's also amazing how the people who claim to be abducted by aliens seem to get abducted several or even hundreds of times, the aliens repeatedly risking capture so they can do tests on the SAME mentally disturbed guy over and over again. Those aliens mastered space travel, but they'd never think of just *keeping* the guy so there's nobody to tell about it.

 

[imported_Reck]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Reck
Oh yea and did you know with some of these "abduction" cases, surgeons have actually taken out tracking devices? Like the roswell crash wreckage it wasn't found to be anything of this world. Supposedly the devices actually were completely intergrated into the nervous system. I've seen the surgery footage and yup it's real.

It's pretty hard to sort through the misinformation...just because there are some people trying to capitalize off of it(Bob Lazar anyone?) does not make it not real.

Please stop posting complete BS and pretending it's fact. They've never taken out tracking devices, people claimed to have them implanted in them but it usually turns out that they're just loonies.

Yes supposedly they have. And yes there are a lot of loonies out there but does that discredit everything? No.

Edit:and I don't care what you believe, you are free to your beliefs. Before you dismiss everything you hear as baloney though, you may want to learn about it first.

*coughs* anyhow I really need to work on my communication skills...I don't think I come across too well. 🙁

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Reck
Oh yea and did you know with some of these "abduction" cases, surgeons have actually taken out tracking devices? Like the roswell crash wreckage it wasn't found to be anything of this world. Supposedly the devices actually were completely intergrated into the nervous system. I've seen the surgery footage and yup it's real.

It's pretty hard to sort through the misinformation...just because there are some people trying to capitalize off of it(Bob Lazar anyone?) does not make it not real.

Please stop posting complete BS and pretending it's fact. They've never taken out tracking devices, people claimed to have them implanted in them but it usually turns out that they're just loonies.

Yes supposedly they have. And yes there are a lot of loonies out there but does that discredit everything? No.

Edit:and I don't care what you believe, you are free to your beliefs. Before you dismiss everything you hear as baloney though, you may want to learn about it first.

*coughs* anyhow I really need to work on my communication skills...I don't think I come across too well. 🙁

If you're going to claim something extraordinary, I think it needs more support than "supposedly they have." Who are "they" anyway?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

It's also amazing how the people who claim to be abducted by aliens seem to get abducted several or even hundreds of times, the aliens repeatedly risking capture so they can do tests on the SAME mentally disturbed guy over and over again. Those aliens mastered space travel, but they'd never think of just *keeping* the guy so there's nobody to tell about it.

Yep, it takes an astounding amount of brain damage for a person to believe that some incredibly advanced species wants to travel many many light years just for the privilege of crawling into some hicks ass with a flashlight. You know, you run one anal probe on a freak and you've seen all there is to see. There's no need to run hundreds of anal probes repeatedly on thousands of freaks. It's not like the scenery changes.

 

[Ronin]

Haven't you people seen Independence Day? Sheesh.

🙂

 

[mundane]

I thought it was all spelled out fairly well in Futurama season 4 episode 1. The alien was Dr Zoidberg, the UFO was made from Bender's parts, and Fry impregnated his grandmother. Not much to it.

 

[CrazyPerson]

i didnt crash there

 

[imported_Reck]

Well hm the reason why I haven't posted any links is because all of the information is have is really from various video documentaries. One of the most credible is one called "The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun" where the video footage is taken from NASA itself. Pretty damn incredible stuff. You'd have to see it to believe it. There are some others too...but you're so closed minded you'd write them off as nonsense.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

Think of it this way, if you to fall off a 50 story building, the falling part is easy, it's the pavement part that is a different story.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Reck
Well hm the reason why I haven't posted any links is because all of the information is have is really from various video documentaries. One of the most credible is one called "The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun" where the video footage is taken from NASA itself. Pretty damn incredible stuff. You'd have to see it to believe it. There are some others too...but you're so closed minded you'd write them off as nonsense.

fvkin post it then! i wanna see it(it there is a link that you can, that is).

my take: i think we would have some type of credible evidence by now.

 

[imported_Reck]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Reck
Well hm the reason why I haven't posted any links is because all of the information is have is really from various video documentaries. One of the most credible is one called "The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun" where the video footage is taken from NASA itself. Pretty damn incredible stuff. You'd have to see it to believe it. There are some others too...but you're so closed minded you'd write them off as nonsense.

fvkin post it then! i wanna see it(it there is a link that you can, that is).

my take: i think we would have some type of credible evidence by now.

Er I can't as they are copyrighted. But *coughs* torrentspy.

 

[LordMorpheus]

It was my time machine. They let me repair it and go back with it.

Actually, I haven't built it yet, so it will have been my time machine, and the will have let me repair it and go back.

Sorry for causing all the confusion.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

If an alien space craft did crash in the desert chances are it was not the first trip down to earth, so we are looking at at least several visits, probably many many more. Think about this, one can't buy a car that doesn't break down at least once, imagine how complex the UFO propulsion system is. Surely it is possible that it could mess up, leading to a crash.

That being said, I do not know whether or not aliens have visited earth, but I'm about 99.9% positive that alien life exists in the universe.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

Think of it this way, if you to fall off a 50 story building, the falling part is easy, it's the pavement part that is a different story.

WOW!! That's an incredibly stupid analogy even by ATOT UFO-believer standards. Falling off a building takes ZERO technology, once you fall the exact path is inevitable and the crash landing a foregone conclusion. It can't happen any other way. But for a species capable of safely navigating over 24 TRILLION MILES to screw up in the last 50 feet is beyond ludicrous.

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Probably fake, but no reason it couldn't be real.

Yeah, because aliens so advanced that they master interstellar travel can't land safely. They can travel more than 24 TRILLION miles safely, but that last 50 feet is a real bitch.

If an alien space craft did crash in the desert chances are it was not the first trip down to earth, so we are looking at at least several visits, probably many many more. Think about this, one can't buy a car that doesn't break down at least once, imagine how complex the UFO propulsion system is. Surely it is possible that it could mess up, leading to a crash.

That being said, I do not know whether or not aliens have visited earth, but I'm about 99.9% positive that alien life exists in the universe.

ROFL. Okay, let's use your warped little logic here. Minimum trip to the earth is about 4 light years, that's the nearest star. That's 24 TRILLION miles minimum. Even if we can make the leap of logic to any civilazation having the technology to cover that distance, we then have to make the leap to them still having spacecraft that run like a Yugo. Fine, now do the math on the odds of a craft running reliably for 24 TRILLION MILES (or even 24 TRILLION MILES many many times as you suggest) and having in break down in that last few feet.

 

[MustangSVT]

it was real.

my alien friend told me so.

he also has a 5.8 terrahertz computer. its about the size of a floppy disk. has a built in brain merging mechanism. i pissed my pants when i played doom... in real life 🙁

 

[BigToque]

I would love to think that aliens exist and have visited us, but I don't really have any idea. Like they say in Contact... If we are alone, it seems like an awful waste of space 🙂

With what happened at Roswell I tend to think that the most probable explanation is that some secret project had an accident. Since the technology was advanced and they didn't want others to know they had the technology, the first reaction was to say it was "alien wreckage". Then they changed their story when higher up's didn't want people thinking we had aliens or something else that might cause panic.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
ROFL. Okay, let's use your warped little logic here. Minimum trip to the earth is about 4 light years, that's the nearest star. That's 24 TRILLION miles minimum. Even if we can make the leap of logic to any civilazation having the technology to cover that distance, we then have to make the leap to them still having spacecraft that run like a Yugo. Fine, now do the math on the odds of a craft running reliably for 24 TRILLION MILES (or even 24 TRILLION MILES many many times as you suggest) and having in break down in that last few feet.

Do the math? We are talking about a hypothetical alien propulsion system. For all we know, it harnesses the natural energy harmonics of the universe for long distance wormhole travel and switches to a different system for atmospheric decent once it gets closer to target, maybe during hyper-space travel the ship miscalculated the inter-dimensional coordinates and ended up in an asteroid field damaging the ship, maybe the space refuse detector malfunctioned as it was entering orbit and a piece of a satellite messed up the engines... do you get what I'm going for here?
Speculation on the operation of a system of travel for 24 trillion miles is quite ridiculous, all I know is that Murphy's law is real, traveling that sort of expansive distance has to allow for an obscene amount of things to mess up and if aliens exist sh!t happens to them too. Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean that they can do it perfectly all the time, even if they are super-advanced hyper-intelligent alien beings.
Hows that for twisted little logic?:roll:

 

[CrackRabbit]

GagHalfrunt, Think of it kind of like this, commercial airliners spend thousands if not millions of hours in the air durring their lifetimes. 99% of the time everything goes smoothly and the planes make it from one point to the other. However there is that .1%, like if a critical part fails or causes a series of failuers you end up with a crashed airliner. Why can't you think on the off chance that if an alien race was possibly visiting our planet that the lightning strike chance of a catosrophic failure happened and we ended up with a crashed UFO?

 

[slpaulson]

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
Awhile back on that ABC UFO special they explained the Roswell thing, That it was a high altitude nuclear monitoring station against Soviet threats that was top secret. They showed the picture of the thing and it looked pretty believeable.

I saw that special too.
Sounds reasonable enough for me... more reasonable than an alien crash.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
GagHalfrunt, Think of it kind of like this, commercial airliners spend thousands if not millions of hours in the air durring their lifetimes. 99% of the time everything goes smoothly and the planes make it from one point to the other. However there is that .1%, like if a critical part fails or causes a series of failuers you end up with a crashed airliner. Why can't you think on the off chance that if an alien race was possibly visiting our planet that the lightning strike chance of a catosrophic failure happened and we ended up with a crashed UFO?

but , think about this...

aliens with their super intelligence and superior technology, wear no clothing. they make doodlings on our crops!.. run around the house and jump on the roofs.. and have problem opening doors... just to get killed by baseball bats and water. (which doesnt exist in our atmosphere).

this example was stunningly recreated in craptacular movie called "SIGNS".

 

[Mo0o]

Probably not an alien ship, but i definitely believe there is life out there.

 

[91TTZ]

People who believe these stories with such a surprising lack of evidence certainly have a few screws loose. Most normal people have common sense which tells them that they're just being taken like a fool. Unfortunately for the tinfoil hat crowd, a total lack of evidence is evidence enough that it happened. I can't really take anything they say seriously.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
People who believe these stories with such a surprising lack of evidence certainly have a few screws loose. Most normal people have common sense which tells them that they're just being taken like a fool. Unfortunately for the tinfoil hat crowd, a total lack of evidence is evidence enough that it happened. I can't really take anything they say seriously.

Sounds like a certian book people like to quote a lot....