Ron Paul wins another debate

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Damn, these Ron Paul threads are getting more, and more annoying.

I would ask for motion to ban Ron Paul threads, btu I guess that impinges on some "freedom of speech" thingy?

I think I'm going to start hating this guy, as little as I may know about his policies, b/c the AT Ron Paul Circle Jerk is getting annoying.

EDIT: could we at least preface all of these threads with a: YARPCJT?

What is the cause of people like you who hate things that are popular instead of hating them because it's your own choice to hate them?

Was it the a$$ beatings in school? was it that you were not a popular kid? Is there someone here with a psychology degree that can explain this boys disfunction?

Is there someone on these boards that can repair "Da Slamma's" sarcasm meter?
Nice attempt at insults, "Colla Flippa." Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension before you start posting insults to a joke post, and make an even greater DB of yourself. Or was the DeVry correspondance course too much effort for you to complete?

 

[Infohawk]

Paul won with me but he was pretty outright rejected by the audience and his support among Republicans is low.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Damn, these Ron Paul threads are getting more, and more annoying.

I would ask for motion to ban Ron Paul threads, btu I guess that impinges on some "freedom of speech" thingy?

I think I'm going to start hating this guy, as little as I may know about his policies, b/c the AT Ron Paul Circle Jerk is getting annoying.

EDIT: could we at least preface all of these threads with a: YARPCJT?

What is the cause of people like you who hate things that are popular instead of hating them because it's your own choice to hate them?

Was it the a$$ beatings in school? was it that you were not a popular kid? Is there someone here with a psychology degree that can explain this boys disfunction?

LMAO at RP being popular... :laugh:

 

[Capitalizt]

If conservatives would drop the "he'll never get the nomination" attitude and vote their conscience in the primary, I have a feeling Paul would clobber scumbags like Mccain and Giuliani.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: lozina
Yet the media continues to treat Ron Paul like a nobody who has no support?

Why do (RP) people keep saying stuff like that?

Hardly a week goes by without some post from you guys claiming a media bias against RP. What do you people want? The guy is included in the debates. What else do you wnat?

Is it because the talking heads who analyze these debates don't agree with you that RP won? Well, why can't they have a different opinion, and who cares what they think?

I think you supporters would be better served by looking at RP campaign fund raising (which if paltry likely explains why the media WOULD mostly ignore him, they seem very concerned about that). If he's doing poorly in fund raising your efforts would be better spent helping him there.

Fern

Oh I don't know, maybe with slogans like "fair and balanced: you'd think they would be fair and balanced. It's not so much media bias against him it's media blackout. The only time you would ever knew he existed let alone that he was running for president is when he suddenly shows up at a debate.

And I already have donated to his campaign and I plan to donate more soon. But thanks for the suggestion

 

[43st]

I agree with his war stance, but the 'free market solves everything' bull crap is too much to make him a real candidate. Not everything has a dollar amount attached to it, cleaning up pollution, educating inner city and/or rural children, anything that involves equal opportunity for the poor, etc.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: lozina
Yet the media continues to treat Ron Paul like a nobody who has no support?

-snip-
Fern

...... It's not so much media bias against him it's media blackout. .....

I searched a bit, but came up empty. Has anyone doen a "study" showing who gets what airtime (outside of paid commercials)? I'm looking for some real proof of this snubbing, etc.

I an think of 3 ways the candidates get on TV:

1. Debates. He's there, so no problem.

2. "Interview-type shows". E.g., after the debates, Fox News had Fred Thompson for an interview (because he wasn't in the debates). Then there are the Sunday type shows. I'm not sure who's (if anyone) has been on. But given the large number of candidates, it's gonna take a while to run them all through.

3. Regular news broadcast. Seems occaisonaly I see McCain or Mitt on campaigning in Iowa. (Walking around shaking hands, nothing of substance). Last night I heard McCain & Guiliani (sp?) names, because they are droping out of somewhere (Iowa, NH whatever). But of the Repub candidates, McCain's gonna "win" in this category because he's the co-sponsor of the highly debated Immigration bill. That ain't bias, that's just the way it is (his, ahem, "work" is newsworthy).

Anybody got anything? If there's a study, I'm gonna bet RP isn't last (least coverage), I'd say Gilmore is.

Fern

 

[CigarSmokedByClinton]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Paul won with me but he was pretty outright rejected by the audience and his support among Republicans is low.

I had a different impression of the audience's reaction; I thought they clapped for him more than any other candidate - which surprised me.

 

[Fox5]

I think Ron Paul has a decent sized supporter base, however it's of people who exist outside of mainstream America. Internet dwellers per se. Basically, people who whine and rarely vote. If they could/would all vote in the primaries, they could give Ron Paul a chance, but they won't. If it made it to the Presidential race then he'd have a chance of getting a good number of votes from people that normally don't, if he ran as an independent I could see him picking up 3 to 5% of the vote. Then again, would people really want to throw away their votes on a loser, or would they rather pick the lesser of two evils?

He's the only candidate that consistently sounds (and has a record) of what used to be called a conservative.

Maybe classical conservatism fell out of popularity for a reason...like nobody wants it anymore. Honestly, I think the media has horribly corrupted politics and the next time we see a worthy man in the white house it'll likely be at the head of a conquering army.

I personally think Ron Paul has some good points, but also some pretty loony ones. Still, I'd vote for him because he's much closer to my viewpoints than any of the current candidates and more importantly, I believe the American political system needs to be shaken up to help weed out the corruption and croneyism (on both sides) and a strong, motivated 3rd party would be just what is needed to do that. Too bad more hippies would rather go on a hunger strike to cause change than actually get out and vote.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: lozina
Yet the media continues to treat Ron Paul like a nobody who has no support?

-snip-
Fern

...... It's not so much media bias against him it's media blackout. .....

I searched a bit, but came up empty. Has anyone doen a "study" showing who gets what airtime (outside of paid commercials)? I'm looking for some real proof of this snubbing, etc.

I an think of 3 ways the candidates get on TV:

1. Debates. He's there, so no problem.

2. "Interview-type shows". E.g., after the debates, Fox News had Fred Thompson for an interview (because he wasn't in the debates). Then there are the Sunday type shows. I'm not sure who's (if anyone) has been on. But given the large number of candidates, it's gonna take a while to run them all through.

3. Regular news broadcast. Seems occaisonaly I see McCain or Mitt on campaigning in Iowa. (Walking around shaking hands, nothing of substance). Last night I heard McCain & Guiliani (sp?) names, because they are droping out of somewhere (Iowa, NH whatever). But of the Repub candidates, McCain's gonna "win" in this category because he's the co-sponsor of the highly debated Immigration bill. That ain't bias, that's just the way it is (his, ahem, "work" is newsworthy).

Anybody got anything? If there's a study, I'm gonna bet RP isn't last (least coverage), I'd say Gilmore is.

Fern

The best study is to do your own observation. For example at that debate someone was timing how time was given to each candidate and while I dont remember the exact number sit was something like McCain had over 15 minutes while Paul had 6.

Then watch a typical news program during the day when they talk about the election. See how many times they mention Guiliani or McCain and how much they talk about them. Then compare that to any mention of Ron Paul (if there is anything).

 

[dullard]

And now the scientifically measured post-debate results come in (link):

Primary voter top choice: Romney 28%, Paul 3%.
Strongest leader: McCain and Giuliani 26%, Paul 1%.
Most believable: McCain 27%, Paul 2%.
Most likable: Romney 32%, Paul didn't register on the radar.
Best chance: Giuliani 31%, Paul 1%.

Poll limited to likely primary voters. +-5.5%.

Yep, Paul clearly won.

 

[GeezerMan]

I believe it. I expect Ron Paul to get next to nothing. Americans are too stupid to choose otherwise.

 

[Theb]

Originally posted by: dullard
And now the scientifically measured post-debate results come in (link):

Primary voter top choice: Romney 28%, Paul 3%.
Strongest leader: McCain and Giuliani 26%, Paul 1%.
Most believable: McCain 27%, Paul 2%.
Most likable: Romney 32%, Paul didn't register on the radar.
Best chance: Giuliani 31%, Paul 1%.

Poll limited to likely primary voters. +-5.5%.

Yep, Paul clearly won.

that's very interesting. This whole thing reminds me of Howard Dean and the Deaniacs.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ron Paul is winning these online polls because his supports are running out there and voting for him multiple times.

Half the country does not even know who this guy is.

Yep hackers.

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Manupilating poll results and then shouting out about them doesn't help at all.

Isn't that Bush's strategy?