Ron Paul pulls into second in Iowa

[xj0hnx]

~SNIPPED FOR STUPIDITY~.

Wow, and I thought the banker dude was a rabid liar, you've got him beat by miles.

 

[RabidMongoose]

It's pretty clear that most Paulbots are liars since they seem to deny their own leader's racist tendencies.

It's so sad that libertarians have decided to follow this vile old man.

 

[Anarchist420]

since when does 30% = most?

you using McOwned's version of math that $4.01 = $5.00?

no wonder you got shitty grades in school.

I'll give you that I made a mistake when I said most. I meant to say plurality.

Not only that, but it's 30% of black republicans, which are only about 10% of national blacks. Considering that primary turnout is usually fairly low, he was probably voted for by something around 1% of black people nationwide.

Yeah, that totally means they don't think he's racist.

Maybe it doesn't, but what about the others? They must think McCain, Romney, and Huckabee are really racist. There are a lot of black people who support Ron Paul and even Hispanics.

 

[guyver01]

I'll give you that I made a mistake when I said most. I meant to say plurality.

how can he get a plurality... when he Suspended his campaign on June 12, 2008?

he wasn't even in the primary

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe it doesn't, but what about the others? They must think McCain, Romney, and Huckabee are really racist. There are a lot of black people who support Ron Paul and even Hispanics.

Now you want to debate levels of racism within the Republican Party? Talk about setting the bar low.

There are not a lot of black people who support Ron Paul, at least not as a proportion of black people.

 

[BansheeX]

I'm not sure why RabidMongoose is trolling so hard on decades old comments written by Lew Rockwell. I suppose we should keep electing socialist nutcases who know nothing about economics and whose policies unintentionally fuel poverty and crime to absurd proportions. There's no better option for the wellbeing of everyone than an incorruptible libertarian like Paul.

 

[First]

Lew Rockwell is a well known racist and Ron Paul has never been truly called out in the media about his association and non-repudiation of him even though it was WELL known in libertarian circles he wrote almost all the commentary in Paul's newsletters, and Paul has even said (on CNN I believe) that he knows who wrote the newsletters. But Paul said in that same interview he wouldn't identify said writer by name. Sad.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I'm not sure why RabidMongoose is trolling so hard on decades old comments written by Lew Rockwell. I suppose we should keep electing socialist nutcases who know nothing about economics and whose policies unintentionally fuel poverty and crime to absurd proportions. There's no better option for the wellbeing of everyone than an incorruptible libertarian like Paul.

We suspect that Lew Rockwell wrote them for Ron Paul. Which then brings up the issue why Ron Paul's former chief of staff is a massive racist and why Ron Paul employed such blatant racists for such important positions.

Moreover, Ron Paul's policies are horrendous for the wellbeing of people. They're good for states, not for people. Moreover, considering that Ron Paul believes in an economic theory that doesn't believe in empirical data, it's safe to say that his economic policies would be a disaster since he's so far removed from reality.

I think that most people would agree that having the President be a massive racist with economic policy that doesn't associate itself with the real world would be horrible for the wellbeing of people.

It's pretty pathetic that libertarians are gathering around such a vile old decrepit man.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Lew Rockwell is a well known racist and Ron Paul has never been truly called out in the media about his association and non-repudiation of him even though it was WELL known in libertarian circles he wrote almost all the commentary in Paul's newsletters, and Paul has even said (on CNN I believe) that he knows who wrote the newsletters. But Paul said in that same interview he wouldn't identify said writer by name. Sad.

The first rule of a racist is to protect other racists.

 

[airdata]

A black man's view on Ron Paul being racist Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ&feature=related

The first rule of a racist is to protect other racists.

One should know the definition of racist before using the word racist in a sentence.

 

[RabidMongoose]

A black man's view on Ron Paul being racist Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ&feature=related




One should know the definition of racist before using the word racist in a sentence.

I like how Ron Paul fans think that a single black person's statements must mean that Ron Paul isn't racist. That really says a lot about Paulbots.

 

[sm625]

People are too stupid to elect someone like Ron Paul. They have no ability to discern what's in the best interest for themselves, vs what's in the best interest for those who own the media. Most people will literally repeat verbatim stuff they hear on the corporate control grid networks. "He's a nut!" Yet these same people who call him a nut want you to go into debt to the tune of trillions of dollars, so they can get rich. And they play on your fears (terrists, global warming, boogieman, whatever). But people just dont get it yet. They will. It is just going to take a lot of destitution to bring on the kind of humility we need. What worries Ron Paul, and myself as well, is that this country can be destroyed and what we built could be completely lost if we dont wise up and end this cycle of stupidity. We can always build our wealth back. But if we throw away our constitution, that's it. We will never have a place that is conducive to the generation of wealth.

 

[airdata]

I like how Ron Paul fans think that a single black person's statements must mean that Ron Paul isn't racist. That really says a lot about Paulbots.

lol. It doesn't, and to be honest I hadn't watched the video when I posted. But I found it to be too good to pass up sharing. It was a soft troll... Sometimes I post stuff just to see how retards like you react.

But hey, I'm not the one making racist allegations. I've never heard anything about Ron Paul being a racist until I saw posts earlier in this thread...

Please, post some evidence.

Also, what is your personal definition of racist? This is probably the most important thing to touch on. I find that alot of people simply confuse racial and racist. You say Jew and suddenly you're an anti semite, you say black guy and you're a racist.

Somebody already posted a video that you discounted in which Paul explains quite well why any such allegations are simply ridiculous.

 

[RabidMongoose]

lol. It doesn't, and to be honest I hadn't watched the video when I posted. But I found it to be too good to pass up sharing. It was a soft troll... Sometimes I post stuff just to see how retards like you react.

But hey, I'm not the one making racist allegations. I've never heard anything about Ron Paul being a racist until I saw posts earlier in this thread...

Please, post some evidence.

Also, what is your personal definition of racist? This is probably the most important thing to touch on. I find that alot of people simply confuse racial and racist. You say Jew and suddenly you're an anti semite, you say black guy and you're a racist.

Somebody already posted a video that you discounted in which Paul explains quite well why any such allegations are simply ridiculous.

You've never heard of Ron Paul's incredibly racist newsletters? Not surprising. A lot of Ron Paul fans have no idea about the candidate that they actually support. They have been deceived by Ron Paul's lies of civil liberties.

 

[Jaskalas]

You've never heard of Ron Paul's incredibly racist newsletters? Not surprising. A lot of Ron Paul fans have no idea about the candidate that they actually support. They have been deceived by Ron Paul's lies of civil liberties.

Yes, civil liberties are lies.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Yes, civil liberties are lies.

Ron Paul's ideas of civil liberties are a lie. He doesn't believe in them when it involves the states. He thinks that the states can trample all sorts of your rights, from your 1st amendment rights to the 14th amendment.

He is probably the candidate who believes in the least amount of civil liberties for individuals. People who have no idea what he's talking about hear him talk about civil liberties and assume that he's for individual rights, but the reality is that he's for state rights. He is fine with the state putting its boot onto your throat and doing whatever it wants to you. But if you actually knew what was in the Constitution and how it has been applied, then you would know that Ron Paul's position abrogates a lot of protections and civil liberties afforded to individuals.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Huh - I must admit I had never heard of the Paul newsletters until now. They definitely contain statements I would regard as racist, and I find it bizarre that a person of his stature would publish such statements under his own name, whether he wrote them or not. (For that matter, I think it's weaselly to publish a newsletter under his name, containing stories with no by-line, then disclaim responsibility for the contents.)

I don't really think it matters, since Ron Paul has no chance of being elected, but his newsletters do include passages that are sufficiently offensive that I would never vote for him.

 

[Theb]

Huh - I must admit I had never heard of the Paul newsletters until now. They definitely contain statements I would regard as racist, and I find it bizarre that a person of his statute would publish such statements under his own name, whether he wrote them or not. (For that matter, I think it's weaselly to publish a newsletter under his name, containing stories with no by-line, then disclaim responsibility for the contents.)

I don't really think it matters, since Ron Paul has no chance of being elected, but his newsletters do include passages that are sufficiently offensive that I would never vote for him.

Same. I hadn't heard of the newsletters, or even the allegations that he's racist. I guess increased media coverage isn't always a good thing. The newsletters are really ugly.

 

[xj0hnx]

Huh - I must admit I had never heard of the Paul newsletters until now.

Same. I hadn't heard of the newsletters, or even the allegations that he's racist. I guess increased media coverage isn't always a good thing. The newsletters are really ugly.

The reason they weren't covered a lot, and they did come out last election, is because it's all bullshit taht was shot down years ago, I mean seriously, this crap is coming from Rabidmongoose, and CanofWorms, two of the biggest fruitcakes on this forum.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Don Vito and Theb - It's great that you're educating yourselves on Ron Paul. I hope that more people do the same and learn not only about Paul's very close ties to racism, but also about how he doesn't really believe in individual rights.

The interesting thing is that a lot of people don't like Paul due to his foreign policy issues. However, I find those to be more acceptable than his racist statements and his domestic policies which would severely abrogate individual rights in the US. His foreign policy is kind of decent if it was scaled back some, but it cannot make up for this horrible racist character flaws and domestic policy.

 

[xj0hnx]

Don Vito and Theb - It's great that you're educating yourselves on Ron Paul.

And hopefully they'll follow up on it and learn that you are full of lies and bullshit, but then again, anyone that has read your posting history knows that.

 

[Theb]

The reason they weren't covered a lot, and they did come out last election, is because it's all bullshit taht was shot down years ago, I mean seriously, this crap is coming from Rabidmongoose, and CanofWorms, two of the biggest fruitcakes on this forum.

If either of them writes for Little Green Footballs I will eat my belt: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28537_Ron_Pauls_Personal_Details_in_Racist_Newsletter

Don Vito and Theb - It's great that you're educating yourselves on Ron Paul. I hope that more people do the same and learn not only about Paul's very close ties to racism, but also about how he doesn't really believe in individual rights.

The net effect is 0. Neither one of us were probably ever going to be Ron Paul supporters.

 

[RabidMongoose]

And hopefully they'll follow up on it and learn that you are full of lies and bullshit, but then again, anyone that has read your posting history knows that.

How am I lying? Ron Paul himself has acknowledged the existence of these racist newsletters, defended the racist newsletters at one point, and even to this day refuses to disclose who wrote the racist newsletters.

Now you can believe that someone else wrote the racist newsletters. But then the question is why does Ron Paul have so many racist friends?

Do you deny the very existence of these racist Ron Paul Newsletters?

 

[RabidMongoose]

The net effect is 0. Neither one of us were probably ever going to be Ron Paul supporters.

It's still a positive effect. You now know more about Ron Paul's racism and it is even possible that you may tell other people about it. Overall, it's a good thing, regardless of whether you were never planning on voting for Ron Paul.

 

[xj0hnx]

If either of them writes for Little Green Footballs I will eat my belt: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28537_Ron_Pauls_Personal_Details_in_Racist_Newsletter

Excellent tripe. It's pretty easy to see that blurb from him being put in a website he doesn't manage, or really read. If my employer told me to put a blurb saying Happy Holidays from XXXX in a company newsletter, I would, and he wouldn't know what else I wrote if he didn't read it.