Hahahahaha, omg... You can't be serious. There is a long history over that type of statement. Damn. wtf, centuries of racism and bigotry vanishing... a;lsdkjf;alksdjf
I can't even read anything in your post. What does each word even mean?!
Hahahahaha, omg... You can't be serious. There is a long history over that type of statement. Damn. wtf, centuries of racism and bigotry vanishing... a;lsdkjf;alksdjf
I can't even read anything in your post. What does each word even mean?!
That's the entire point. Why does Ron Paul feel like so many Americans dont' look American? What does he mean by that?
You see, I agree with you, what does 'American' look like? I think it encompasses all races. Ron Paul apparently does not.
Again, can you think of any context where his statement would be appropriate? I cannot.
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The proof is in his own newsletters, which he subsequently defended.
Ron Paul belongs with the likes of George Wallace and other horribly racist politicians. He's a relic of the past who hides his horribly racist platform under lies of 'civil liberty' and a somewhat decent foreign policy when you ignore the really crazy stuff like about wanting to have state sponsored pirates, weird conspiracy theories, and that kind of stuff.
Well, thanks for asking a pointed question.. and it's a good question, but is what he said racist??
I'd really like to see the video (or transcript) that led to the response. Because that would give a better context and make a world of difference, in my opinion. Such things like intonation can make a difference as well. Interviews/political shows are misconstrued too readily nowadays..
I just don't think that this specific article is tantamount evidence that RP is a "racist".. I'm still looking at these newsletters, but it's a long shot imo so far..
What kind of context could make his statement appropriate?
It's really the sum total of Paul's history that makes a likely racist. At some point when you get a repeated history of being connected to such vile racist filth, it's pretty likely that you're a racist. I mean the man had his own newsletter full of racism, then he defended his newsletter, the TSA statement, etc. It's just too much. I could maybe understand your point if he had no history of racism and just had that TSA statement, he's an old man from a very racist time, but maybe he changed or whatever, but it's just a history full of horrible racism that it's almost certain that he is a cranky old racist who thinks that non-whites are not American looking.
I can't wait until he leaves politics forever. Shouldn't be too long now. He needs to get the hell out of the spotlight and stop trying to spread his hatred. It really is a shame that a lot of young people have been tricked into following him because they think that he actually supports civil rights and liberties.
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He's quite horrible at defending himself. Very unconvincing, twitching around at his sordid past being investigated and questioned.
Ok.. it's getting really late by me.. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that in his statement, RP could possibly be projecting the viewpoint of what a TSA agent would categorize as "suspicious" ("If Id have been looking, they look suspicious").. and the TSA agents definition of a "suspicious individual" might actually include an Arab or Middle Eastern looking individual (God/Allah forbid).
Ironic that an "unAmerican looking individual" (in MY terms) might find someone "unAmerican" looking (in whatever terms).
Yea, you'll probably you'll read this and disregard it as nonsense. I've had a few glasses of wine so the quotes are out of whack I'm sure..
Ron Paul was talking about TSA agents, not what TSA agents are looking for. He said that TSA agents don't look American, which is ironic to him. Your explanation makes no sense as to what he said or at the very least doesn't make Paul's statement appropriate.
His statements don't make any sense as to someone projecting a viewpoint of what a TSA would categorize as suspicious since he was talking about the TSA agents themselves.
I don't think that you're thinking very clearly...but regardless, a lot of Ron Paul fans refuse to acknowledge his very extensive racist history, so whatever, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think that a guy who released a racist newsletter for years, then defended the newsletter, then said that Americans who work for an American governmental agency in America don't look American to him, and so forth is a racist. Ron Paul fans can think that's perfectly normal. Most of them have already been tricked by Ron Paul into thinking that he's actually for individual rights and liberties, so it's only fitting that the same people have also been tricked into thinking that Ron Paul isn't a racist.
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I am thinking clearly and you have shown nothing that supports your views . I need to see Paul say something racist rather than WHAT YOU THINK . SHOW PROOF POSITIVE . I didn't know you read body language . Why is such a talented person wasting time at these forums .
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So you have nothing to say about the 2nd 3rd and 4th links . Why doesn't that surprize Me?
Not all of those links are of Ron Paul defending himself, they're of other people.
Look, it's nice that you think that it's perfectly normal to release a racist newsletter under your name, then defend those racist newsletters, then make racist statements about people who you think don't look American despite the fact that they are American. Most people would say that this is a pattern of racism.
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Heres exactly what these 2 clowns are tring to pull here watch this .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTDy1iFnnp4&feature=related
Now What did he just say . Oh My god . did you here that . I heard with my own ears. Something said out of context .
Now lets really get down to it here is another clip from same show .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hkqOPYwQA&feature=related
Clearly the 1st clip was cut off so as to make it look like he preferred Bush . Same game these clowns are playing .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTDy1iFnnp4&feature=related
Now What did he just say . Oh My god . did you here that . I heard with my own ears. Something said out of context .
Now lets really get down to it here is another clip from same show .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hkqOPYwQA&feature=related
Clearly the 1st clip was cut off so as to make it look like he preferred Bush . Same game these clowns are playing .
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Yes they are not all Ron defending himself . 2nd and 3rd were two blacks one addressing the racism the 3rd talking or interviewing in a manner Ron Paul . The 4th Rock doing a comedy act . I never heard rock endorse Ron Paul in that clip . But someone made the video to look as if Chris was endorsing Paul . All kinds of evil out there . You have been hoodwinked by just such a trick . I could infer That Obama was a racist by the fact he is destroying the middle class and come up with all sorts of proof that it is so.
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Your using this forum as such .I will get another of your statements to support what I just said .
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As I said your using this forum to spread your lies in the hopes of harming Paul because your misguided fool.
The 14th Amendment is illegal. And it was only meant to punish the South. The proponents of it were the very same ones who supported black codes in their northern states. Lincoln's minions hated southerners more than they cared about themselves.
No it wouldn't. The 14th Amendment limits the states not the Federal government. It basically inverted the Bill of Rights. The States are not allowed to do a lot of things the Federal government does routinely.
He probably is. The fact that Dr. Paul got 30% of the black vote in the 2008 primaries pretty much proves that most blacks don't think he's racist. So since he did so well with blacks in the primaries, the MSM turns the whole thing around with outright lies. I'd love to see those lying SOBs go out of business which they certainly would if Dr. Paul became President.
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since when does 30% = most?
you using McOwned's version of math that $4.01 = $5.00?
no wonder you got shitty grades in school.
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The answer to your questions is right here in your post.
You say yourself that 'American' is a nationality that encompasses many races.
First of all, why say 'many' and not 'all'? Are there some races that you feel are not qualified to become American citizens? If you answer yes, then I would argue that your viewpoint is itself racist, and if that is the case then of course you would never see RP's comments as racist as they would just be 'normal' to you.
However, if you believe that 'American' is a nationality that encompasses all races, then the statement that 'someone does not look like an American' is inherently racist. When referring to 'looks,' one can be referring either to the person's physical characteristics or the 'look' of their clothing. There are no other possibilities that could qualify as 'looks.' Since TSA agents all wear uniforms, we can rule out the possibility that he was referring to their attire. Hence (yeah, hence!), he was referring to the physical characteristics of these people.
Physical characteristics can include hairstyle, makeup, tattoos, skin color and facial or body structure. Can you name a hairstyle, makeup style, tattoo, facial structure or body structure that is not 'American'? Of course not, that idea is absurd. Some styles or structures may come from or be influenced by other cultures, but every single one of them can be found on true American citizens. Anyone arguing otherwise would look ignorant, and I don't say that to try to stifle a good debate. Anyone that cares to try to argue this point is welcome to.
So we are left with skin color as the final attribute he could possibly be referring to. But if 'American' is supposed to encompass all races, then all skin colors would qualify as 'American' in appearance. So we can conclude that RP either thinks that certain style choices can disqualify a person as an American or certain skin colors can.
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since when does 30% = most?
you using McOwned's version of math that $4.01 = $5.00?
no wonder you got shitty grades in school.
Not only that, but it's 30% of black republicans, which are only about 10% of national blacks. Considering that primary turnout is usually fairly low, he was probably voted for by something around 1% of black people nationwide.
Yeah, that totally means they don't think he's racist.
How can the Constitution itself be illegal?
Seems like Ron Paul and his fans hate the Constitution, huh?
You mean he got some percentage of the black GOP vote? That's probably a tiny tiny fraction of the overall black vote.
Ron Paul is a racist. He released a racist newsletter for years. He defended those racist newsletters. And he has made subsequent racist remarks about how he deems only white people as 'american looking.'
He is probably the most disgusting presidential candidate in quite some time.
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