Ron Paul doesn't believe in a lot of the Bill of Rights being incorporated against the states. That's more than a single clause of the 14th Amendment. He's fine with a state limiting everyone's right to free speech.
Ron Paul doesn't believe in a lot of the Bill of Rights being incorporated against the states. That's more than a single clause of the 14th Amendment. He's fine with a state limiting everyone's right to free speech.
I don't mean to attack you in any way.. but can you cite this with a link or something? I'm just curious.
Thanks.
And this as well please.
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More specifically, can you cite the above quote? Just wondering.
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I don't think that anyone is really arguing over who is MORE racist, just whether someone who has released a racist newsletter for years and then defended those racist newsletters and then later on made other racist states is a racist. I don't think that he's really being compared to anyone else.
Plus, if we care about civil liberties, then we should definitely not be for Ron Paul. He's more for state rights, which in most cases is a dog whistle for racists anyways.
You missed the point of my post that you quoted - it really didn't require a need for a rebuttal.
Anyway, please refer to my post directly and chronologically before the one you just made.
Ok.. read your post in more detail and - LOLWTFAHAHAHREALLY? (this is directed at the above quoted text) States rights are a dog whistle for racists? Bless your heart.
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In the Speakers Lobby, Paul describes the federal airline security system as an extra-constitutional affront to civil liberties, and thinks security should be handled by the private sector. Then he takes a rather un-presidential jab at the appearance of many TSA screeners, a workforce heavily populated by minorities and immigrants. We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked, he says. Most of them are, well, you know, they just dont look very American to me. If Id have been looking, they look suspicious I mean, a lot of them cant even speak English, hardly. Not that Im accusing them of anything, but its sort of ironic.
http://www.salon.com/2007/06/02/ron_paul_6/
Ron Paul does not believe in the incorporation doctrine. This is very well known. That's part of his stated policy, he doesn't believe that a large portion of the Bill of Rights applies to the states. He thinks that it only applies to the federal government (e.g., Congress). You can just do a quick google search for "ron paul incorporation doctrine" or something similar and you'll receive a lot of hits.
That's why he is against the federal government, say, banning flag burning, but he's fine with states banning flag burning. These are his well known positions that a lot of people don't understand when they hear him rant about civil liberties, but he's only talking about civil liberties against Congress not against the states.
That's why he is against the federal government, say, banning flag burning, but he's fine with states banning flag burning. These are his well known positions that a lot of people don't understand when they hear him rant about civil liberties, but he's only talking about civil liberties against Congress not against the states.
“We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked,” he says. “Most of them are, well, you know, they just don’t look very American to me. If I’d have been looking, they look suspicious … I mean, a lot of them can’t even speak English, hardly. Not that I’m accusing them of anything, but it’s sort of ironic.”
I don't see how this is a racist comment. Race is not even mentioned in the excerpt. The only categorization is directed towards nation of origin. What is the TSA looking for? That is a good question.
I don't see how this is a racist comment. Race is not even mentioned in the excerpt. The only categorization is directed towards nation of origin. What is the TSA looking for? That is a good question.
What does 'don't look very American' even mean? Sounds pretty damn racist to me and definitely in line with a crazy person who publishes a bunch of racist newsletters.
What DOES 'don't look very American' mean? That is subjective to the viewer and reader.. and (usually) further defined by the editor and distributor. To define one man's ideology by one comment is ridiculous in my opinion. But if you have other examples I'd like to see them.
I'm not a huge RP supporter, but I think he speaks the truth more than the other candidates. And I'd like to see more "evidence" of his "racist" viewpoints because I just don't see it personally.
If his years of releasing racist newsletters, defending the racist newsletters, and then how he deems some Americans don't look American according to him, then there's nothing that will convince you that Ron Paul is a racist. Sometimes it's convenient for people who aren't in the demographic targeted by Paul's racism to be content with the despicable old man.
I am curious. In what circumstances would it be acceptable to call Americans who are working for the American federal government in America not American looking?
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I'm sorry, am I too specific for you? Please define what aspects of my post you are so "Wowed[sic]" by.
And I mean this in an innocent way. It's hard to convey true emotion and meaning in text.
Please, pick apart the comment what you quoted so we can find some common understanding.
Well, to be honest with you, I am doing more research on these "racist newsletters". And when you say - "how he deems some Americans don't look American according to him, then there's nothing that will convince you that Ron Paul is a racist" - you have to understand that "American" is not a race, but a nationality that encompasses MANY races. And I believe that he is speaking from the point of view of a TSA agent and what they are trained to look for.
He said that the TSA agents don't look American. So I'm wondering in what circumstances that would be approprirate, where Americans working in American for the American government agency don't look American?
Also, I do know that American encompasses many races. However, apparently according to Ron Paul, it does not. That's the point. He thinks that a lot of Americans don't look like Americans, thus he believes that American is limited, probably only to Americans of european descent.
I cannot think of any context where Ron Paul's statement would be appropriate, but please let me know if you can figure anything out that would make the statement appropriate.
I'm just amazed at your defense of Ron Paul. What do you think he means when he says that a minority doesn't look like they're American? You think that means he likes turtles? It's obviously a very prejudicial statement, of the type commonly asserted against minority groups to try to de-Americanize them. You don't need to be a middle-class white Portestant male IT worker to be an American.
I am equally amazed at this statement
- where did this come from.. was this actually stated? And what does an "American" look like?
And again, I'm ignorant to a lot of these so-called "facts" so if you can point out direct quotes that would be useful.
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Hormel corperation in Austin MN is hiring. They are also firing 50 illegals a day . The US gooberment had a chat with them and told them to get rid of the illegals or else . Sencea foods corp was told the same as was faribult food . MN is cleaning it up . NO more welfare for these people also . Its about time. A state doing something right at gun point.
It seems that you should be opposing what Ron Paul said based on what you're posting. Yet you are also trying to defend that scumbag. Your position is quite strange.
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2 clowns come is spouting nothing they can actually prove Paul said or did and you can't figure it out . You show us a video of such a thing with his face and mouth moving , There are well over 100,000 videos on paul on utude . Some like you 2 guys. But they can only say what paul is refuted as saying with NO real proof . Its like obama swiming in the gulf with his daughter . No real proof it ever happened . Just a liar saying it happened. I will get some that defend your stance
Yes! So let's define what an "American" looks like. Let's take a journey through another person's mind and imagine that *maybe* they might think differently than you and I (crazy, I know).. but, just maybe they might be using a definition of a *term* that is different than you and I.. and, just maybe, their definition might make more sense if we think more objectively and "out of the box".. i.e. how a TSA agents' look might define his nationalization - but that would need to be further defined by how the TSA defines the image of an "American".
You can just reply with a "Wow".
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