Ron Paul Maine Delegates Ejected

[Abraxas]

They have to fight back against this, expose this so others know and go to the rnc

I don't think you understood the question. Supposing for a moment Ron Paul's campaign did in fact break the rules to get the delegates they got, should they or should they not have to give some of them back? If not, what penalty would you suggest would fit the crime better?

 

[MrColin]

I'm going to quit voting for Dems or Repubs all together. I don't care if the only alternative candidates available are with the American Nazi Party.

 

[nextJin]

I don't think you understood the question. Supposing for a moment Ron Paul's campaign did in fact break the rules to get the delegates they got, should they or should they not have to give some of them back? If not, what penalty would you suggest would fit the crime better?

Considering RRoO were followed to the T, proven via youtube, ustream and live blogs from several different campaigns supporters (Romney specifically for a contrast) if the Liberty delegates "cheated" then the entire nations primaries and delegate selection process was entirely driven by cheating and foul play. It is completely understandable to be pissed off when your guy wins the vote but no one gives a damn enough to stay and become a delegate so you effectively wasted your time voting.

The process is setup like it is on purpose, and frankly should not be changed. If the populace doesn't give a damn enough to be a part of the process longer than a simple hole punch they likely do not know enough about the issues to honestly make an informed decision. If the only thing that mattered was the voting process you would see an incredible amount of advertising going on by the truly elite because even those who are informed wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

And to contrast, there is about a 25 - 1 ratio of definitive foul play going on between the GOP (25) and the Paul campaign (1) around the nation. I listed some of the more laughable ones from the last few weeks earlier in the thread.

 

[Lemon law]

I am surprised no one has posted this yet, but the Romney camp offered Ron Paul a chance to speak at the RNC convention, and Ron Paul rejected Romney's conditions.

And as someone who is not a Ron Paul fan, I can't blame him.

So Romney will have to settle for a less than full Ron Paul endorsement unless things change.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-romney-don-t-fully-endorse-him-132604061.html

 

[Incorruptible]

I am surprised no one has posted this yet, but the Romney camp offered Ron Paul a chance to speak at the RNC convention, and Ron Paul rejected Romney's conditions.

And as someone who is not a Ron Paul fan, I can't blame him.

So Romney will have to settle for a less than full Ron Paul endorsement unless things change.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-romney-don-t-fully-endorse-him-132604061.html

One of the conditions was that Ron Paul must endorse romney, this goes against everything that Ron Paul stood for. He refuses to compromise his principles

 

[DrPizza]

He lost

Get the fuck over it

Dave perfectly summarized this thread in 7 words. /Thread.

 

[Incorruptible]

Dave perfectly summarized this thread in 7 words. /Thread.

Dave is a democrat and obviously if a republican is shut down he would be happy. The process was screwed up to shut down Ron Paul and favor romney because he represents the status quo

 

[NoStateofMind]

He lost

Get the fuck over it

Dave perfectly summarized this thread in 7 words. /Thread.

We are (at least I am) over any possibility of Ron Paul being President. What most seem not to get (forgive me if I am lumping you in) is that its not him so much as it is the ideas he presented. Ron may retire but the movement he started doesn't end with him.

 

[Incorruptible]

We are (at least I am) over any possibility of Ron Paul being President. What most seem not to get (forgive me if I am lumping you in) is that its not him so much as it is the ideas he presented. Ron may retire but the movement he started doesn't end with him.

Well said. Ron Paul will not be the president because of all the corruption and stupidity. But his ideas are still here and and more people are adopting them

 

[JKing106]

Did they forgot to take off their white hoods and swastikas? Did they not get the memo that Paul isn't a white supremacist anymore?

 

[sactoking]

Well said. Ron Paul will not be the president because of all the corruption and stupidity. But his ideas are still here and and more people are adopting them

Ummm, no, Ron Paul won't be President because the majority of people in the country won't vote for him, likely because they think he's a loon.

 

[Incorruptible]

Ummm, no, Ron Paul won't be President because the majority of people in the country won't vote for him, likely because they think he's a loon.

He was right about everything and the media unfairly portrayed him as a racist.

 

[CrackRabbit]

He was right about everything and the media unfairly portrayed him as a racist.

You mean like you portray yourself as a racist on this forum?

Its the media's fault you post all of those racist things, got it.

 

[Incorruptible]

You mean like you portray yourself as a racist on this forum?

Its the media's fault you post all of those racist things, got it.

I am not a racist. The media does lie

 

[CallMeJoe]

He was right about everything and the media unfairly portrayed him as a racist.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Ron Paul is not a racist.


He just played one in his newsletters.

 

[Lemon law]

We are (at least I am) over any possibility of Ron Paul being President. What most seem not to get (forgive me if I am lumping you in) is that its not him so much as it is the ideas he presented. Ron may retire but the movement he started doesn't end with him.

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In MHO, PC Surgeon, what a puzzling and strange thing to say.

What the hell does Ron Paul and his ego want now?

As Ron Paul has always run under the GOP banner, in what amounts to two successive disjointed congressional terms. As long ago Ron Paul ran for and won a series of successive congressional terms in a rather weird Texas district. Then Ron Paul retired for a number of years, then re-entering politics again, again ran as Republican, and won a series of elections in the same congressional district. As that same second unbroken string continued until 2012, as Ron Paul, the congressman, did not run again for congress. And instead Ron Paul ran for the 2012 POTUS GOP nomination or bust. And now Ron Paul has busted, as his long Ron Paul political carreer has never never never made ANY IMPACT on mainstream GOP thinking. Because Ron Paul's fibertarian fantasies never had any compatality with Mainstream GOP thinking. And never will.

As now Ron Paul the politically retired has three broad options now.

1. Kiss Romney ass, get his retirement GOP party honors, as all of his Fibertarian ideas are buried and forgotten by the GOP.

2. Still pretend that Ron Paul is a retired GOP member in good standing, and then refuse to fully endorse Romney. The stand of a total hypocrite and egomaniac.

3. Or maybe as a man of principle that stands for his fibertarian fantasies, and then fully endorse the Gary Johnson candidacy of the actual Fibertarian party.

Just the way I look at it PC Surgeon. In its crunch time now for Ron Paul, as he has to get off the pot or shit.

 

[nextJin]

I am surprised no one has posted this yet, but the Romney camp offered Ron Paul a chance to speak at the RNC convention, and Ron Paul rejected Romney's conditions.

And as someone who is not a Ron Paul fan, I can't blame him.

So Romney will have to settle for a less than full Ron Paul endorsement unless things change.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-romney-don-t-fully-endorse-him-132604061.html

Nice reading skills, I covered that earlier.

 

[nextJin]

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In MHO, PC Surgeon, what a puzzling and strange thing to say.

What the hell does Ron Paul and his ego want now?

As Ron Paul has always run under the GOP banner, in what amounts to two successive disjointed congressional terms. As long ago Ron Paul ran for and won a series of successive congressional terms in a rather weird Texas district. Then Ron Paul retired for a number of years, then re-entering politics again, again ran as Republican, and won a series of elections in the same congressional district. As that same second unbroken string continued until 2012, as Ron Paul, the congressman, did not run again for congress. And instead Ron Paul ran for the 2012 POTUS GOP nomination or bust. And now Ron Paul has busted, as his long Ron Paul political carreer has never never never made ANY IMPACT on mainstream GOP thinking. Because Ron Paul's fibertarian fantasies never had any compatality with Mainstream GOP thinking. And never will.

As now Ron Paul the politically retired has three broad options now.

1. Kiss Romney ass, get his retirement GOP party honors, as all of his Fibertarian ideas are buried and forgotten by the GOP.

2. Still pretend that Ron Paul is a retired GOP member in good standing, and then refuse to fully endorse Romney. The stand of a total hypocrite and egomaniac.

3. Or maybe as a man of principle that stands for his fibertarian fantasies, and then fully endorse the Gary Johnson candidacy of the actual Fibertarian party.

Just the way I look at it PC Surgeon. In its crunch time now for Ron Paul, as he has to get off the pot or shit.

Pauls options? He is going to retire from public life and likely chill out. Here is his speech from tonight in Tampa at the "We are the Future Rally" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-huXq_ts8

He has started the fight to regain control of the GOP and that's what he has focused on these last 5 years. He knew he would never win, he just wanted to get a different message out than to kill brown people and hold your bibles.

Take a look at the milestones; Campaign for Liberty, major shifts in local elections, attacks on the GOP platform, not endorsing Republicans, etc. He has focused the fight on the GOP itself and not really the Democrats because he knew if change were to happen it would have to be done within the two party system.

 

[nextJin]

I'd be curious to know who Democrats favor in general (not for elections) Paul, Romney or Bush.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I'd be curious to know who Democrats favor in general (not for elections) Paul, Romney or Bush.

Paul's delusional, so he's out.

W. is a nice guy. He was just over his head, and he probably wasn't well served by Cheney. Give Bush a good Democratic VP to keep him steered right and I wouldn't have a problem with eight more years of him.
I like Bush.

Romney is a problem because there's no telling where he actually stands. I think he's a nice guy and would try to do good, but I can't prove it, and there's no telling what his fundamental political beliefs are so you can't tell how far from reality they might be. If you start with wrong-headed ideas, your idea of "doing good' can get pretty evil, and that's a real worry. I want to have some confidence that my President is operating from a sound mental foundation, but Romney is impenetrable. All you can tell is that he's out of touch. He moves forward boldly as though his underlying beliefs are supportable, and that's an issue. A Republican should always be worried that his position might be cracked by someone smarter, as it's the nature of conservatism to be wrong. That caution keeps the conservative grounded.

So Bush wins.

 

[CallMeJoe]

...W. is a nice guy. He was just over his head, and he probably wasn't well served by Cheney. Give Bush a good Democratic VP to keep him steered right and I wouldn't have a problem with eight more years of him...

I think he may have meant Jeb Bush, who would have been preferable to any of the clowns who made it into the Republican debates this round.

 

[DominionSeraph]

I think he may have meant Jeb Bush, who would have been preferable to any of the clowns who made it into the Republican debates this round.

Ah. Don't know anything about that guy.

 

[Lemon law]

I'd be curious to know who Democrats favor in general (not for elections) Paul, Romney or Bush.

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What at a stupid question to ask nextjin, IMHO opinion. When the fact is and remains that if democrats are given the choice of Paul, Romney, or Bush, none of the above wins hands down.All unacceptable democratic choices and why pretend otherwise?

 

[umbrella39]

Does anyone else think Anarchist and Incorruptible are the same person? I know I certainly do.

Nope, Anarchist seems to believe the shit he types. Incorruptible is a troll, parody or otherwise. But for sure an EBT or ALT. This one has taken over though and I wish they'd put an end to it already.

I wish the mods would combine each thread and post he has ever made here into one tidy thread titled: Things I Fear, Misunderstand, and Hate and make him just edit and add new tripe to it each day. No need to have 100 different I hate brown people or people that are too white are being persecuted threads...

 

[nextJin]

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What at a stupid question to ask nextjin, IMHO opinion. When the fact is and remains that if democrats are given the choice of Paul, Romney, or Bush, none of the above wins hands down.All unacceptable democratic choices and why pretend otherwise?

Good thing it was your opinion then eh? I ask because quite simply Paul has much more favorable views with Democrats than either of the other two are concerned. He pulls way more Democrats than both probably combined.

They won't support his fiscal policies because they favor wealth distribution and welfare but most other views they could at least debate about especially foreign policy.

Either way he is retiring with the most conservative and consistent record in Congress so he shouldn't be too much of a issue for most anymore