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Rollin' in my 5.0...395HP at the wheels

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TehMac said:
These look sorely tempting, but I'm interested in waiting until 2014 with the rumored "50th anniversary" of the Mustang...that should be a sight to see!
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IRS with an updated 5.0 😉

Honestly, I'm happy with my 2010gt so I can imagine the bliss anyone buying the 2011 will feel. I was going to wait but I needed a car last year and I highly doubt I'd be able to find a 2011 for 28k out the door. Already saving my spot in line for a 2014 =)
 
That is seriously impressive performance. I've always been a Mustang 5.0 hater but I may have to change my tune now. Chevy better do something quick.

Can't wait to see C/D do their test. 4.3s 0-60 just seems incredible. That's dang close to a base LS3 Vette and it weighs ~400lbs less.
 
Zap said:
Employee of what? Ford themselves? I know "partner" employee pricing is just dealer invoice. I purchased my Mazdaspeed 6 that way.
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My dad retired from Ford, so I can get their best employee pricing on the Z Plan.

Edit: I looked up the Z-plan pricing on a 2010 Mustang GT. A $35,685 MSRP would be $32,022. A $39,525 MSRP would be $35,346. Not a huge discount, but it helps and is probably similar to what a 2011 Mustang GT will be. I know there won't be incentives for a while, but the employee pricing can be used along with incentives, which is really nice.
 
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kalrith said:
My dad retired from Ford, so I can get their best employee pricing on the Z Plan.

Edit: I looked up the Z-plan pricing on a 2010 Mustang GT. A $35,685 MSRP would be $32,022. A $39,525 MSRP would be $35,346. Not a huge discount, but it helps and is probably similar to what a 2011 Mustang GT will be. I know there won't be incentives for a while, but the employee pricing can be used along with incentives, which is really nice.
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Hey, seeing as we're such great internet buddies, we're practically brothers, right? So that makes your dad sorta like an uncle.. so I can get in on that family pricing right??? :awe:
 
mb said:
Hey, seeing as we're such great internet buddies, we're practically brothers, right? So that makes your dad sorta like an uncle.. so I can get in on that family pricing right??? :awe:
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Well, if we were brothers, then my dad would be your dad, and you would qualify for the Z plan. Unforunately, since he's your "uncle," you'd only qualify for the less-favorable X plan:

NOTE: Nephews, Nieces, Uncles, Aunts, Cousins, Friends, Neighbors, and other Household Members Are Not Eligible for A, D or Z-Plan.
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With the X plan the two afore-mentioned Mustangs would be $1,363 and $1,539 more, respectfully.
 
They didn't say spouse. So you guys need to head to Cali, get married, buy your Mustangs then get divorced.

Definitely worth the $1500, 😛
 
kalrith said:
Well, if we were brothers, then my dad would be your dad, and you would qualify for the Z plan. Unforunately, since he's your "uncle," you'd only qualify for the less-favorable X plan:



With the X plan the two afore-mentioned Mustangs would be $1,363 and $1,539 more, respectfully.
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Hahaha well I originally meant "like a brother" not actually brothers which is why I said "sorta like an uncle" but since that wouldn't work then lets just go with actual brothers ()🙂
 
I strain to say it, but if I was looking for a performance car around $30-40k, this would be my #1 choice over the 370z, Camaro SS, 135i/335i, and so on. Would just have to get past owning something with the blue oval.
 
mbrown said:
Car & Driver Review

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q1/2011_ford_mustang_gt_5.0-short_take_road_test

They say the new Mustang has about the same performance as the SS. But yet everyone else was beating Camaros in their tests. And they seem to rag on the interior where everyone else seems to be praising it. Is it usual for Car and Driver to have quite different opinions from other reviewers?
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They said the 2010GT had about the same performance as the SS 0-60.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezf...lication/8a09c017574a6e6b586e1dabfc2e6283.pdf
 
Brembo disc brake package = win.

@above poster:

I really like these, tempted to go for the 2014 or 2015 new generation, but the 1 Series M BMW that is rumored sounds really really hawt.
 
LTC8K6 said:
They said the 2010GT had about the same performance as the SS 0-60.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezf...lication/8a09c017574a6e6b586e1dabfc2e6283.pdf
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"The 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque, the latter on a gloriously flat curve that peaks at 4250 rpm, are achievements. It’s enough to knock out a 60-mph sprint in 4.6 seconds, and the quarter-mile in 13.2 seconds at 109 mph, which are more or less Camaro SS times. Finally, a Mustang engine that doesn’t have to eat dust from a small-block. "

I read that as them talking about the 2011 model.
 
MBrown said:
"The 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque, the latter on a gloriously flat curve that peaks at 4250 rpm, are achievements. It’s enough to knock out a 60-mph sprint in 4.6 seconds, and the quarter-mile in 13.2 seconds at 109 mph, which are more or less Camaro SS times. Finally, a Mustang engine that doesn’t have to eat dust from a small-block. "

I read that as them talking about the 2011 model.
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Basically, C/D's numbers for the 2011 GT aren't much better than their #s for the 2010 GT. The 2010 SS beat the 2010 GT in their studies. The 2011 GT doesn't do much better than their 2010 SS numbers. The 2011 GT did better to 60, but the 2010 SS beat it in the 1/4 mile.

But, everyone else is getting much better 2011 GT numbers, and they all beat C/Ds 2011 GT figures and everyone's 2010 SS figures.

I hope that makes sense.
 
KentState said:
I strain to say it, but if I was looking for a performance car around $30-40k, this would be my #1 choice over the 370z, Camaro SS, 135i/335i, and so on. Would just have to get past owning something with the blue oval.
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When the '11 Mustangs arrive, you should go test drive one and compare it to your C6. A used C6 is going for the same money and I for one would be curious to hear your thoughts.
 
mb said:
Basically, C/D's numbers for the 2011 GT aren't much better than their #s for the 2010 GT. The 2010 SS beat the 2010 GT in their studies. The 2011 GT doesn't do much better than their 2010 SS numbers. The 2011 GT did better to 60, but the 2010 SS beat it in the 1/4 mile.

But, everyone else is getting much better 2011 GT numbers, and they all beat C/Ds 2011 GT figures and everyone's 2010 SS figures.

I hope that makes sense.
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C/D also complained about the shifter being too short, whereas others complained about it being too long. Maybe they didn't get the same car 🙂
 
kalrith said:
C/D also complained about the shifter being too short, whereas others complained about it being too long. Maybe they didn't get the same car 🙂
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I didn't catch that about the shifter but you are right. Everyone else did say it felt too long.

I think C/D got a 16 year old to drive the new Mustang... knows enough not to stall it but not enough to get a good 1/4 time.
 
TehMac said:
the 1 Series M BMW that is rumored sounds really really hawt.
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I've seen a modified 1 series numerous times on my commute, usually passing me going around 80-100MPH. :\ It has "Dinan" across the top of the windshield and an "M" badge on the rear. 🙄 Guess BMW owners aren't immune to cross-badging, like putting a Type-R on a base Civic.
 
MBrown said:
Car & Driver Review

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q1/2011_ford_mustang_gt_5.0-short_take_road_test

They say the new Mustang has about the same performance as the SS. But yet everyone else was beating Camaros in their tests. And they seem to rag on the interior where everyone else seems to be praising it. Is it usual for Car and Driver to have quite different opinions from other reviewers?
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they rag on the normal interior, not the premium version.


they also rag on the taurus, which everyone else seems to like.

edit: reading their test of it, the only thing they didn't like about the taurus was that the steering and ride are isolated from the road. so wtf
 
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ElFenix said:
they rag on the normal interior, not the premium version.


they also rag on the taurus, which everyone else seems to like.
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Car and Driver just hates on Fords period, as well as suffering from general retarditis. My favorite example :

They had an economy car roundup a couple years back, I think they compared basically all of the compacts. The name of the article was 'Cheap shoes', and it focused on value and fuel economy. The Focus, which had the 2nd best fuel economy, the 2nd best acceleration, the 1st finish in slalom/lateral G/lane change tests, had the lowest level of interior noise, and was the 3rd cheapest option in the set, placed LAST. The VW Golf, which cost $8,000 more than the cheapest car and $3,000 more than the next most expensive option, delivered very poor ratings in almost every performance metric, and had the worst fuel economy of the group, placed FIRST. Yeah, let me buy an overpriced gas guzzling FF econobox just because it has a modestly decent interior and a VW badge? C'mon, if I'm spending $20k+ on a car, it sure as hell isn't going to be a non-turbo FF econobox.
 
MBrown said:
"The 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque, the latter on a gloriously flat curve that peaks at 4250 rpm, are achievements. It’s enough to knock out a 60-mph sprint in 4.6 seconds, and the quarter-mile in 13.2 seconds at 109 mph, which are more or less Camaro SS times. Finally, a Mustang engine that doesn’t have to eat dust from a small-block. "

I read that as them talking about the 2011 model.
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Yes it was. Who said it wasn't?

Earlier C & D tested the 2010GT in a comparo with the SS and Challenger, and it kept up with the SS, and beat the Challenger, which is why I posted the chart from that earlier comparo.

With 315HP, the 2010GT was already able to stay with the Camaro SS according to C & D.
 
Elfear said:
When the '11 Mustangs arrive, you should go test drive one and compare it to your C6. A used C6 is going for the same money and I for one would be curious to hear your thoughts.
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I already know how that comparison is going to go.

The C6 is going to feel faster, be even more stable at speed and have far less body roll around the corners giving more confidence. The grip will be higher and the steering feel in the 'vette slightly better. The Corvette is still a real sports car, the Mustang GT is a well designed pony car.

No idea on the interior/build quality comparison though.
 
crazySOB297 said:
I already know how that comparison is going to go.

The C6 is going to feel faster, be even more stable at speed and have far less body roll around the corners giving more confidence. The grip will be higher and the steering feel in the 'vette slightly better. The Corvette is still a real sports car, the Mustang GT is a well designed pony car.

No idea on the interior/build quality comparison though.
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Great summary. Yeah the cars occupy vastly different spectrums, even if they can put down some very similar numbers (consider the M3 vs. '11 GT lap time rough comparison, and a base C6 puts down numbers just like the M3).

Interior-wise, and I'm not sure this matters so much, but to some people it does, so :

The C6 interior is workmanlike. It doesn't have anything about it other than the confining low-slung feel to distinguish it all that much from a Cobalt or generic entry-level car, save the leather options (which aren't that great). The new Malibu is decidedly nicer inside. I'd expect the C7 to really up the ante in this area. But c'mon, you're in a Vette, the real show is the way it drives and sounds, along with the iconic exterior.

Having sat in the '10 GT premium models at local Ford dealerships (haven't driven a Mustang in a long time), I can say that they're definitely better than the C6 already. If the '11 offers improvements, well that will just widen that gap.
 
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