RMA after OCing OK? No, says BFG Tech

[Gamingphreek]

Well my card has been OCed since day 1 and i have yet to have any problems. Maybe if he didn't open is big mouth and say he OCed and killed the chip this wouldn't have happened. If my chip started to die right now i would RMA it and not think twice because it is highly unlikely it is my OC.

Also there is no little OC detector lol. The same goes for processors, they cant tell. The only thing they can tell is ifyou flash the BIOS and then it dies and you cant flash it back. Then they will know. But unless they are watching your system (against the right of privacy) while you are on it they cannot know.

People these days

-Kevin

 

[lordtyranus]

Wow, gamingphreek is a complete douchebag. :thumbsdown:

 

[Gamingphreek]

What the hell do you mean by that. Obviously if i blow the card up or fry it or something im not going to RMA. Sry if i made that impression, wasn't implied. But if my card right now suddenly just stops working because of my minimal OC im gonna RMA it im not flashing the BIOS or anything its just a mild OC.

If a person just fries a card then RMAs it that is just wrong but if my card just simply quits working or something and im barely doing anything yeah its gonna go back because that shouldn't happen (especially since MSI has dynamic OCing... not that i use those drivers though )

-Kevin

 

[BW86]

some people just arent that bright

 

[nRollo]

Gamingphreek, I think you should befriend Fastredponycar. You guys have a lot in common, and a lot to talk about. :roll:

 

[Gamingphreek]

OMG... for what. YEAH if you are OCing like 200mhz volt modding or flashing the BIOS, no way in hell i would RMA the card. However, if i was doing modest OCing and had been doing it for sometime without any problems and suddenly the card died, yeah i would RMA it, because more than likely it wasn't due to OCing, because you would have gotten some symptoms before hand.

What this guy did was just plain stupid, who in the world (besides him) would complain about his card not OCing far enough when it voids the warranty in the first place!?

Stop flaming me already!! I know that almost every person here would do something similiar to what i say.

-Kevin

Edit: NO i do not think that is what the warranty is for nor would i ever do such a thing like what this guy did.

 

[nRollo]

You're wrong Gamingphreek- most people here are good, honest people who look way down on people who RMA cards after OC, because they know it's stealing and raises the cost of cards to all of us.

When I turned in the guy who burned up his 9800 Pro for trying to RMA it to newegg, the post got over 100 replies of people flaming the guy who advocated RMAing his OCd card. Several members PMd me and thanked me for screwing up his RMA plans.

It says in Coolbits you are voiding your warranty by OCing and you agree to that when you do it. The BFG rep clearly stated he voided his warranty by OCing. I've corresponded with ATI on the subject, you void your warranty by OCing.

So if you're going to advocate stealing from honest people in public, among decent people, you should expect flames.

BTW- I would never do what you say. When my wife and son look at me, I want them to see a man, not some thieving scum.

 

[Gamingphreek]

You still misunderstand me. Yes if the card is burnt up and such DO NOT RMA it. However if you are doing light OCing or something or manufacturer supported OCing (such as MSI's Dynamic OCing) then i would RMA it because the likeliness of a 5mhz oc screwing something up or for that matter MSI warranties OCs up to 10% with DOT, i would RMA the board.

Obviously as i have previously stated if you are doing some massive OC or flashingor modding RMA should not be an option and is immoral.

-Kevin

 

[VIAN]

What a retard.

 

[lordtyranus]

Wow, you fvcking moron. LIGHT OVERCLOCKING VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY FOOL.

Well i overclocked to 450 x792 and got 1192 as my score. Im gonna OC my chip to my normal benchmarking speed and see how it goes. time to max everything out!

390/700 is stock speeds. You have a full 15% OC on both core and memory. Greater than your so called 10% figure by MSI.

You are a little bitch who needs his a$$ kicked bigtime.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You still misunderstand me. Yes if the card is burnt up and such DO NOT RMA it. However if you are doing light OCing or something or manufacturer supported OCing (such as MSI's Dynamic OCing) then i would RMA it because the likeliness of a 5mhz oc screwing something up or for that matter MSI warranties OCs up to 10% with DOT, i would RMA the board.

Obviously as i have previously stated if you are doing some massive OC or flashingor modding RMA should not be an option and is immoral.

-Kevin

Gamingphreek- it voids your warranty if you OC it 1MHz. There is no "I doubt this caused the damage, so the terms of the warranty are meant for other guys". I doubt you're an electrical engineer qualified to test why cards fail?

What these people are trying to tell is you're no different from the Fastredponycar guy, they just realize it and you don't.

It's an old concept- "you break it, you bought it".

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Wow, you fvcking moron. LIGHT OVERCLOCKING VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY FOOL.

Well i overclocked to 450 x792 and got 1192 as my score. Im gonna OC my chip to my normal benchmarking speed and see how it goes. time to max everything out!

390/700 is stock speeds. You have a full 15% OC on both core and memory. Greater than your so called 10% figure by MSI.

You are a little bitch who needs his a$$ kicked bigtime.

And you're a 12 year old. Chill out.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Wow, you fvcking moron. LIGHT OVERCLOCKING VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY FOOL.

Well i overclocked to 450 x792 and got 1192 as my score. Im gonna OC my chip to my normal benchmarking speed and see how it goes. time to max everything out!

390/700 is stock speeds. You have a full 15% OC on both core and memory. Greater than your so called 10% figure by MSI.

You are a little bitch who needs his a$$ kicked bigtime.

Ive had enough of your uselss flames. You have done nothing to help this thread. Did i EVER *****EVER******* say i was going to RMA my card, i know perfectly well how far my card is OCed, i DO NOT need reminding. SO STOP!

However it does not void my warranty until i go over IIRC 10% as MSI certifies the card for 10% over as DOT (Dynamic Overclocking Techonology) OC's it to a max of 10%.

Stop all the flaming... im sick and ****ing tired of it!!!!

-Kevin

 

[lordtyranus]

Did i EVER *****EVER******* say i was going to RMA my card,

Yes you did.

If my chip started to die right now i would RMA it and not think twice

However it does not void my warranty until i go over IIRC 10% as MSI certifies the card for 10% over as DOT (Dynamic Overclocking Techonology) OC's it to a max of 10%.

Did you not read my previous post? You're already overclocked 15%.


You are no better than the scumbag theives who steal video cards from local Best Buys if you actually RMA an overclocked card.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Excuse me!!?!? Im no better am I?

I am speaking hypothetically, i did not say if i was OCed up the wazoo and my chip died i would return it. I simply said if my OC was within DOT range then i would RMA it. It is within warranty.

I do not need YOU to tell me that i OCed my chip past 10%. I know what i did.

Just keep talking lord, you just keep digging yourself deeper.

-Kevin

 

[Cawchy87]

Gamingphreek. Look at the reaction to this sort of thing in the past.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ord1=rma+AND+overclock

I would just drop it before your reputation is ruined like my old friend "mynewrigissick AKA matt5900xt"

 

[lordtyranus]

I do not need YOU to tell me that i OCed my chip past 10%. I know what i did.

Apparently you don't. Learn some simple math kid.

I simply said if my OC was within DOT range then i would RMA it.

But its not within DOT range. Infact, DOT doesn't exist for video cards according to the MSI website.

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It is within warranty.

No, it is not. And the fact that you said you would RMA it if it stopped working is disturbing, to say the least.


Thnx Cawchy for the link. I guess we've found an effective way of dealing with these types of people.

 

[Schadenfroh]

calm down kids

i thought we all got our energy out on this subject after the last thread about it several months ago

heat

 

[AutoPilotOff]

He ended up getting another brand new card

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulleti...1&page=1&pp=15

 

[Gamingphreek]

I know it is not within DOT range!!!!!! I KNOW lol.

I repeat. IF and ONLY IF my card was within DOT range then i would RMA it.

It is within warranty if it is within DOT range, since mine is not within DOT range it is not within warranty ... there now how hard was that to understand.


What do you mean by these people? You really need to stop flaming because you are just digging yourself deeper.

-Kevin

 

[ronnn]

Lots of people here have rma'd cards that have been oc'd. Most conveniently decide that the overclock had nothing to do with the problem. Such is life, why jump on the few that admit it. Myself, I oc rarely for short periods and have been lucky enough not to have to make that decision. :beer:

 

[fbrdphreak]

I HATE [Expletives Deleted] LIKE THAT. its jerkholes like that that cause stores (retail or not) to develop return policies to protect themselves and in the end just hurt consumers with real problems. i want to take that new card and take a nice, new, smelly dump on it. GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

(VENT = OVER)

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: ewright
No, he was having "problems" (it wouldn't clock as high as he wanted it to), and has already exchanged the card at BestBuy after BFG politely told him to piss off.

So that means that some poor sap is going to buy a shrink-wrapped card at BestBuy, and end up with a dodgy card? Thanks, but no thanks. What an azz.

 

[fbrdphreak]

No, Best Buy won't put that on the shelf. They'll send it back to BFG. Thus raising BFG's costs of maintaining their warranty/guarantee. Gotta love jerkoffs like that

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
ha, Wait until we have black boxes on the video cards that record what frquencies they run at so when you go to RMA it they check the information and give you your busted card back.

I've always thought that would be a good idea. Some small chunk of serial config EEPROM, if the currently-set clock/multi was higher than the previous highest-recorded one, then re-write it with the new highest speed used. Kind of like the region-coding selection written into the flash of DVD-ROM drives when you select a region. It shouldn't be hard to implement, although it could possibly be worked around, since it would probably have to be implemented in the drivers running on the host. This could concievably be done for CPUs as well.

It would be easy, for someone to be able to quickly check this when doing an RMA (assuming that the card in question wasn't totally fried to the point of destruction), and refuse it if OC'ed.