Rittenhouse trial to start soon, Judge is laying out rules.

[imported_tajmahal]

Apparently you can walk around with a rifle and provoke violence and murder people and get away with it. Sounds like it's creeping to shithole status to me

You lost, get over it.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I would send money to a group organizing the responsible arming and firearm training of black folks.

Here you go.

: Home

The National Rifle Association is America’s longest-standing civil rights organization. Together with our more than five million members, we’re proud defenders of history’s patriots and diligent protectors of the Second Amendment.

home.nra.org

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I will never set foot on American soil.

Seems like even just looking someone the wrong way gets you shot these days.

Honestly i wouldn't feel safe visiting with such relaxed gun laws.

Thank you for staying out.

 

[VW MAN]

You lost, get over it.

And you are still a bitch-boy, get used to it.

 

[MrSquished]

You lost, get over it.

I did lose. Decency lost and shittiness won. Which is why republicans are happy and Democrats are upset.

 

[Jaskalas]

My concern is that his behavior was just part of a larger ongoing trend in America of using private citizen militia-types in order to infringe on Constitutional rights. Govt and the police can't easily get away with this, so corrupt officials embolden private citizens by convincing them that their 2a rights and 'law and order' allow them to infringe on other people's Constitutional rights (4a, etc), tell these 'sovereign citizens' to act like they're the police, up to and including the false belief that they can kill other citizens in 'self-defense' for not recognizing their citizens arrest authority.
Basically 'comply or die' and 'back the blue,' but any citizen can do it, as long as they identify with the 'right' political party.

The McMichaels trial is in another thread, but you speak of circumstances and situations pertaining to that one. Such words and sentiments clearly demonstrate that you have never watched a video of the shootings in the Rittenhouse trial. Or worse, you somehow saw Rittenhouse chased down, cornered, and attacked... yet you failed to understand what it was you witnessed.

I'll make it simple for you.

• It is NOT your constitutional right to chase down, corner, and attack someone.
• You have EVERY right to use all force at your disposal to stop someone from attacking you.

Use NOTHING but that simple logical basis and arrive at the correct outcome for both trials. One down, one to go.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I did lose. Decency lost and shittiness won. Which is why republicans are happy and Democrats are upset.

No, the lies you and the media told about this case lost. The lie that Rittenhouse crossed State lines with the rifle, the lie that it was an illegal weapon, the lie that he provoked the attacks, the lie that he's a white supremacist, the lie that he gunned down innocent victims, all those lies were disproven by the evidence, or the total lack of evidence.

 

[TheVrolok]

@MrSquished @TheVrolok
Home - NAAGA National African American Gun Association

Will look into it! Thanks!

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hero it is. This just in, underage mercs can now claim self defense.

 

[iRONic]

@MrSquished @TheVrolok
Home - NAAGA National African American Gun Association

This organization protested at Stone Mountain:

NFAC

Unfortunately their leader was arrested for pointing a weapon at LEO during a protest in Louisville.

 

[Paratus]

The McMichaels trial is in another thread, but you speak of circumstances and situations pertaining to that one. Such words and sentiments clearly demonstrate that you have never watched a video of the shootings in the Rittenhouse trial. Or worse, you somehow saw Rittenhouse chased down, cornered, and attacked... yet you failed to understand what it was you witnessed.

I'll make it simple for you.

• It is NOT your constitutional right to chase down, corner, and attack someone.
• You have EVERY right to use all force at your disposal to stop someone from attacking you.

Use NOTHING but that simple logical basis and arrive at the correct outcome for both trials. One down, one to go.

So as a middle aged white guy, if I’m armed I have a right shoot someone if I feel threatened?

 

[Amol S.]

And you are either A) extremely ignorant and/or B) extremely disingenuous/dishonest. I don't 'worry' about people like you, I just wish you'd walk into the front of a moving bus.

Also, it's none of your business what guns I own, nor how I utilize them. Take your faux concern and shove it up your ass.

He is just asking what guns you own.

yea you are with the rest of the mob that wants to kill him for having a rifle at a car lot to protect it and not burn it down. of course you would read it a biased way to side with your homies.

He did say that he was hired to protect it, and this was proven, thus I am sad to say this but I have to agree with killster1 that there was no issue with protecting the car lot. This does not mean there was no issue with what KR did outside of the car lot. Outside of the car lot, the actions of KR is his own, and thus can not be attributed to him protecting the car lot. The killings and injuries occurred outside of the car lot, thus there is no value in the defence of saying he was still doing the job of protecting the car lot.

hell yes, the only verdict that was true to the evidence. now get busy kicking the DA out of a job. Hopefully he will now sue the POTUS and media outlets for defamation.

Not so fast. The judge did not declare a mistrial nor did they declare prejudice, thus the prosecutors and the victims family can still go to a higher up court. This will most likely happen.

Apparently you can walk around with a rifle and provoke violence and murder people and get away with it. Sounds like it's creeping to shithole status to me

Well... We do not yet know what will happen if the case moves up to a higher court. The verdict there could be the opposite.

And unsurprisingly the trumpy judge wouldn’t allow that into evidence.

The higher up court might.

I do not agree with the ruling but jury spoken and he is not guilty.

At least the jury did not declare a mistrial with prejudice, thus being fair to the prosecutor and the victims families, and giving the case a chance to mo've up in a higher court.

Looks I was so wrong and not agree with it. Was hoping for at least 2nd degree, but the jurors have seen/heard some of the evidence and have decided on a verdict.
Hopefully people will learn from this (right?) and someone doesn't decide to take justice in their own hands.

Can the families sue Rittenhouse for the deaths he caused?

Kyle Rittenhouse Acquitted Of All Charges In 2020 Kenosha Shootings

Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted of all charges on Friday, after his trial for shooting three people, killing two of them in Kenosha last year.

chicago.cbslocal.com

They can sue him, but most likely after they win a case. That would rely on the verdict of a higher up court, which would only happen if the case does move up to it.

You lost, get over it.

Not so fast, apparently the judge has left room to let the case move up to a higher up court, if the prosecutor and the victims families want it to.

I did lose. Decency lost and shittiness won. Which is why republicans are happy and Democrats are upset.

Don't give up, prejudice was not yet declared. Thus, the case can still go to a higher up court.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So as a middle aged white guy, if I’m armed I have a right shoot someone if I feel threatened?

Better, you can go out and get all up in the mix, maybe even pick the fight, and still shoot someone.

Btw, you can't do any of this in my state (MA)

edit: but of course, we consistently have one of the lowest gun deaths rates in the nation.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

 

[weblooker2021]

He is just asking what guns you own.

He did say that he was hired to protect it, and this was proven, thus I am sad to say this but I have to agree with killster1 that there was no issue with protecting the car lot. This does not mean there was no issue with what KR did outside of the car lot. Outside of the car lot, the actions of KR is his own, and thus can not be attributed to him protecting the car lot. The killings and injuries occurred outside of the car lot, thus there is no value in the defence of saying he was still doing the job of protecting the car lot.

Not so fast. The judge did not declare a mistrial nor did they declare prejudice, thus the prosecutors and the victims family can still go to a higher up court. This will most likely happen.

Well... We do not yet know what will happen if the case moves up to a higher court. The verdict there could be the opposite.

The higher up court might.

At least the jury did not declare a mistrial with prejudice, thus being fair to the prosecutor and the victims families, and giving the case a chance to mo've up in a higher court.

They can sue him, but most likely after they win a case. That would rely on the verdict of a higher up court, which would only happen if the case does move up to it.

Not so fast, apparently the judge has left room to let the case move up to a higher up court, if the prosecutor and the victims families want it to.

Don't give up, prejudice was not yet declared. Thus, the case can still go to a higher up court.

You make no sense. What higher court are you talking about? He is not guilty, end of the case. There is no higher court. What you talking about civil court and it got nothing to do with this Judge or this court.

 

[iRONic]

Don't give up, prejudice was not yet declared. Thus, the case can still go to a higher up court.

How long did it take you to craft that garbage?!?!

That verdict cannot be appealed.

 

[iRONic]

It's not the whole state that's doing that. In fact, it's not even the majority of the state. So the whole state can't be a shithole. Just sayin.

Imma point you to a thread:

Wisconsin GOP aims to bypass state electoral commission

So because they’re butthurt over losing the federal election in 2020, the bipartisan commission they created no longer works for them and those commissioners should be jailed? Also, “Democrats are evil and cheat, therefore we shouldn’t have to follow the rules!” This doesn’t bode well for...

forums.anandtech.com

 

[Amol S.]

You make no sense. What higher court are you talking about? He is not guilty, end of the case. There is no higher court. What you talking about civil court and it got nothing to do with this Judge or this court.

How long did it take you to craft that garbage?!?!

That verdict cannot be appealed.

Court of Appeals Wisconsin. Is there a rule that the party can not file this case there? In fact this case can go to federal level because, KR was not a resident of Wisconsin, thus the prosecutor can claim that KR committed a form of interstate murder.

 

[iRONic]

Shithole state getting shittier...

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

You lost, get over it.

Justice lost.

 

[Pohemi]

Not so fast. The judge did not declare a mistrial nor did they declare prejudice, thus the prosecutors and the victims family can still go to a higher up court. This will most likely happen.

Well... We do not yet know what will happen if the case moves up to a higher court. The verdict there could be the opposite.

...The higher up court might.

... in a higher court.

They can sue him, but most likely after they win a case. That would rely on the verdict of a higher up court, which would only happen if the case does move up to it.

Not so fast, apparently the judge has left room to let the case move up to a higher up court, if the prosecutor and the victims families want it to.

Don't give up, prejudice was not yet declared. Thus, the case can still go to a higher up court.

Court of Appeals Wisconsin....

Dude...just shut the fuck up, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Google 'Double Jeopardy', dummy. It's over, there's no 2nd trial in a "higher court". You might be thinking of appeals court IF HE HAD BEEN CONVICTED.

Again...shut the fuck and stop trying to sound educated on how the court system works when you obviously haven't a fucking clue.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Again...shut the fuck and stop trying to sound educated on how the court system works when you obviously haven't a fucking clue.

That's not entirely true. People have been tried in both state and federal court for the same crime, even after an acquittal or pardon in one.

 

[Pohemi]

That's not entirely true. People have been tried in both state and federal court for the same crime, even after an acquittal or pardon in one.

That is true in certain qualifying but rare circumstances, but it requires violation of both state sovereign laws and federal laws in the same action.
Feds wouldn't even glance at this, and it's folly to expect it.

Repeatedly spewing bullshit about "higher courts" supposedly retrying him is stupid, it's not going to happen.

 

[iRONic]

U.S. congressman Madison Cawthorn, a Republican representative from North Carolina, said on Instagram: "Kyle Rittenhouse is not guilty my friends. You have a right to defend yourselves. Be armed, be dangerous and be moral."

 

[PowerEngineer]

No, the lies you and the media told about this case lost. The lie that Rittenhouse crossed State lines with the rifle, the lie that it was an illegal weapon, the lie that he provoked the attacks, the lie that he's a white supremacist, the lie that he gunned down innocent victims, all those lies were disproven by the evidence, or the total lack of evidence.

There is something very wrong with our justice system when a juvenile (dare I judge him as delinquent) can take it upon himself to go to another state, acquire an assault rifle, prowl the streets as a self-appointed vigilante, shoot three people, and then be found innocent of any crime. If he had just stayed home then two people wouldn't have died. That is the bottom line. And what is even sadder are the people who see the court's verdicts as a vindication of reprehensible actions like his. It is for injustices like this that I really hope there is a God that will mete out true justice.

 

[dlerious]

That's not entirely true. People have been tried in both state and federal court for the same crime, even after an acquittal or pardon in one.

According to this web page there are 7 ways for murder to be a federal crime. None apply to this case.

7 Situations Where "Murder" Is a Federal Crime

In most cases, the crime of murder is prosecuted in state courts as a state crime. But there are seven scenarios when an unlawful killing violates federal law and thus is prosecuted as a federal crime. These include when: the murder is of a federal judge or a federal law enforcement official...

www.shouselaw.com