Rittenhouse trial to start soon, Judge is laying out rules.

[emperus]

Alec Baldwin was sure it had been checked too.

He was told it was checked, he didn't see it checked. Big difference. Here, the prosecutor was told it was checked and saw it being checked by the bailiff just like everyone else who was watching.

 

[dank69]

Yep, they also filed this one, without prejudice. I was wrong. First mistake i made in an hour or so.

Did they file this new motion because the video destroyed the entire narrative they were pushing that we all told you did not make any sense but which you bought into anyway?

 

[sportage]

So.... if the kid is found guilty in the 1st, can or will the judge "THEN" declare a mistrial and with prejudice?

The defense had to play the mistrial card because even they know the guilt of this kid. And the fact that the defense would even try pulling this stunt is sooooo Rudy Giuliani/Donald Trump-ish.

 

[emperus]

Now they're not so sure of their case?

Rittenhouse lawyers ask judge to declare mistrial over video

ABC|59 minutes ago

Kyle Rittenhouse's attorneys have asked the judge to declare a mistrial before the jury reaches a decision, saying the defense received an inferior copy of a key video from prosecutors

Rittenhouse lawyers ask judge to declare mistrial over video

Kyle Rittenhouse’s attorneys have asked the judge to declare a mistrial, saying the defense received an inferior copy of a key video from prosecutors

abcnews.go.com

Saw that earlier. Basically, "We didn't know that video was there so we couldn't construct a narrative to fit it". It's even more shameful the judge entertained the whole "Apple's algorithms puts thing in Videos" bullshit. And I don't think the prosecution played that video up enough during trial.

 

[Greenman]

So.... if the kid is found guilty in the 1st, can or will the judge "THEN" declare a mistrial and with prejudice?

The defense had to play the mistrial card because even they know the guilt of this kid. And the fact that the defense would even try pulling this stunt is sooooo Rudy Giuliani/Donald Trump-ish.

It's called "defending your client". The lawyers that don't do it are referred to as "broke". The one's that are good at it are called "rich".
Looking at from another point of view, if you were on trial you'd be a little disappointed every time your attorney said "damn! I missed that".

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Did they file this new motion because the video destroyed the entire narrative they were pushing that we all told you did not make any sense but which you bought into anyway?

It's obvious prosecutorial misconduct. It wasn't the first time the prosecutors had trouble with exculpatory evidence in this case.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So.... if the kid is found guilty in the 1st, can or will the judge "THEN" declare a mistrial and with prejudice?

The defense had to play the mistrial card because even they know the guilt of this kid. And the fact that the defense would even try pulling this stunt is sooooo Rudy Giuliani/Donald Trump-ish.

Yes the judge can. If he will is another question.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

2 Men Convicted of Killing Malcolm X to Be Exonerated

Two men who spent decades in prison for the murder of civil rights leader Malcolm X — which they steadfastly denied having any part in — will have their convictions thrown out, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office said Wednesday. D.A. Cy Vance and attorneys for Muhammad Aziz and the late...

www.nbcnewyork.com

Another case of prosecutors, the FBI and NYPD withholding exculpatory evidence. It wasn't right back then, it's not right now.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It's obvious prosecutorial misconduct. It wasn't the first time the prosecutors had trouble with exculpatory evidence in this case.

OH BOOHOO....

 

[pcgeek11]

I assume that means every firearm that you don't know(haven't seen) is thoroughly checked is loaded.

Yes. The first rule of weapons handling is that it is assumed to be loaded until it is checked and cleared by the person holding the weapon.

If I have it I, check and clear it.
I hand it to you with the breach open and the magazine removed.
Then You check and clear it. ...

That way people don't get shot by accident.

 

[pcgeek11]

I know this has come up recently somewhere else, but within professional environments, only certain persons are authorized to inspect a weapon for safety. And it would in fact be a safety violation if an unauthorized person inspected the weapon again after the authorized person had cleared it.

What kind of "professional environment" would that be a safety violation?

I have been handling weapons since I was 15 years old. You Always check the weapon to ensure the chamber is empty the bolt is back (open) and the magazine is out before you hand it to anyone. When they get the weapon the bolt should be open, magazine removed and they should check the chamber is cleared.

Basic gun safety.

 

[pcgeek11]

This judge dare imply that he may not allow cameras into his courtroom(s) in the future.
Does anyone really believe THAT?
This judge is so media starved that when the judge had Rittenhouse chose from a bucket those who would judge him, I'm surprised one of the prizes in the bucket was not a Pinto. COME ON DOWN RITTENHOUSE, YOU WON A BRAND NEW 1971 GMC PINTO. DING DING DING
NOW LITTLE BOY, RUN TO THE ARMS OF GAME SHOW HOST, DADDY JUDGE.

???

GMC Pinto?
What the hell is that?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Floriduh Matt wants to Gaetz the Punk From Illinois as an intern so he can 'help America in even more ways'.

Matt Gaetz Wants To Hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a Congressional Intern

The Florida congressman wants to reach out to 18-year-old to see if he'd be "interested in helping the country in additional ways" if acquitted.

Matt Gaetz Wants To Hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a Congressio...

The Florida congressman wants to reach out to 18-year-old to see if he'd be "interested in helping the country in additional ways" if acquitted.

www.newsweek.com

All the more reason to convict the little snot.

 

[nOOky]

Gaetz is a tool, who cares. I'd offer AOC a position on my staff.

 

[conehead433]

So the defense didn't like a video that showed their client executing a man. I guess not.

 

[emperus]

It's obvious prosecutorial misconduct. It wasn't the first time the prosecutors had trouble with exculpatory evidence in this case.

You clearly don't know what exculpatory is. How does a video of him pointing a gun at people exculpatory or helps free him from guilt? The act of pointing a AR15 at someone can be seen as provocation. Shit, didn't Kyle say he shot someone because he was in fear for his life because that person pointed a gun at him?

The word you're looking for is inculpatory. The defense would have liked to see it beforehand so they could have tailored their defense to it and have Kyle lie again about what happened, instead of lying on the stand and saying he never pointed the gun at anyone.

 

[MrSquished]

You can't debate reality with these bitches because they are all in their feels and right win conspiracies.

50 dead due to assholes hijacking BLM protests? That's a crock of shit. Lots of property damages from the shitheads taking advantage of the crowds to loot. But 50 dead? Taj and his shitty people just make shit up. They are just nasty creatures.

 

[MrSquished]

Hey lying sack of shit. I routinely wear a mask and i've been vaccinated.

That's too bad.

 

[HomerJS]

How many of you would hire Kyle Rittenhouse?

Like I predicted he will go the way of George Zimmerman if he is acquitted

 

[soundforbjt]

How many of you would hire Kyle Rittenhouse?

Like I predicted he will go the way of George Zimmerman if he is acquitted

Or worse.

 

[Lanyap]

Floriduh Matt wants to Gaetz the Punk From Illinois as an intern so he can 'help America in even more ways'.

Matt Gaetz Wants To Hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a Congressional Intern

The Florida congressman wants to reach out to 18-year-old to see if he'd be "interested in helping the country in additional ways" if acquitted.

Matt Gaetz Wants To Hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a Congressio...

The Florida congressman wants to reach out to 18-year-old to see if he'd be "interested in helping the country in additional ways" if acquitted.

www.newsweek.com

All the more reason to convict the little snot.

Next it will be Cowardthorn offering him a job and teaching him how to hide a knife in plain site.

 

[Vic]

What kind of "professional environment" would that be a safety violation?

I have been handling weapons since I was 15 years old. You Always check the weapon to ensure the chamber is empty the bolt is back (open) and the magazine is out before you hand it to anyone. When they get the weapon the bolt should be open, magazine removed and they should check the chamber is cleared.

Basic gun safety.

I know this is a difficult concept for some, but not everything is required to be intuitive to your experience or "common sense."

 

[Dave_5k]

So.... if the kid is found guilty in the 1st, can or will the judge "THEN" declare a mistrial and with prejudice?

The defense had to play the mistrial card because even they know the guilt of this kid. And the fact that the defense would even try pulling this stunt is sooooo Rudy Giuliani/Donald Trump-ish.

Yes, the judge "CAN". However, I'd still predict near 0 chance of him granting a mistrial with prejudice.

If judge was going to dismiss with prejudice, he should have ruled on that promptly after giving opportunity for both sides to argue case.

That being said, if jury finds Rittenhouse guilty of murder charge on the Rosenbaum count, I'd guess at least 50/50 odds that the judge grants mistrial (not with prejudice) on at least that count, as it would appear to be partly based on prosecution drone video evidence discovered mid-trial and not provided to defense.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

MSN

" jury on Thursday began its third day of deliberations — something that seems almost inconceivable to the social media pontificators who made up their minds about the case more than a year ago."


I don't think so. I think a lot of people more or less expected a hung jury and that can take a few days.

 

[Dave_5k]

" jury on Thursday began its third day of deliberations — something that seems almost inconceivable to the social media pontificators who made up their minds about the case more than a year ago."

I don't think so. I think a lot of people more or less expected a hung jury and that can take a few days.

Given we're on day 3, I'd say it is almost certain that there are jurors firmly on both sides of one or more of the counts, with hung jury looking more and more likely.

Prediction: I'll guess that the jury comes back either late today or Friday morning claiming to be deadlocked on one or more counts, but will get an "Allen charge" by the judge to go back and reconsider one more time, which will not resolve anything, ending in mistrial Friday.