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Pliablemoose said:
Holy crap, that's a big price drop 😱
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Just remembered that for the last sale, it was -$200. If the flyer is accurate and other stores adopt it, then this will be -$300.

So if they were trying to drum up support/sales with the last -$200, then they failed miserably. This one just looks like a clear out. Damn my impulse buying in April when I got my 16 Gb, should have gotten an iPad 2 or banked that $600.
 
Imp said:
Just remembered that for the last sale, it was -$200. If the flyer is accurate and other stores adopt it, then this will be -$300.

So if they were trying to drum up support/sales with the last -$200, then they failed miserably. This one just looks like a clear out. Damn my impulse buying in April when I got my 16 Gb, should have gotten an iPad 2 or banked that $600.
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I know 3 people who bought when the last sale was on.

If the email app had shipped on-time I would have bought a couple as gifts that time (or this time) - the browser and general feel of the UI is just so good, but I can't very well buy one for an email-and-browsing kind of person when it doesn't do standalone email!

At this point I assume there will be a better 7" wifi tablet out there by the time the updated OS ships.
 
3chordcharlie said:
I know 3 people who bought when the last sale was on.

If the email app had shipped on-time I would have bought a couple as gifts that time (or this time) - the browser and general feel of the UI is just so good, but I can't very well buy one for an email-and-browsing kind of person when it doesn't do standalone email!

At this point I assume there will be a better 7" wifi tablet out there by the time the updated OS ships.
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Don't you worry! In RIM's infinite wisdom, I believe they delayed the e-mail app until next March. How does a great company address the most vocalized flaw concerning it's product? By delaying a fix until a year later when it's already dead...
 
Imp said:
Don't you worry! In RIM's infinite wisdom, I believe they delayed the e-mail app until next March. How does a great company address the most vocalized flaw concerning it's product? By delaying a fix until a year later when it's already dead...
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I don't know what the technical issues are, and how it could take so long to fix, but it's mind-blowing to me that they've wasted a really slick product the way they have.

Honestly, even if enterprise mail had to wait (and only be available by BB bridge), they should have cobbled together a decent POP/IMAP app months ago to make the product usable for consumers.
 
3chordcharlie said:
I don't know what the technical issues are, and how it could take so long to fix, but it's mind-blowing to me that they've wasted a really slick product the way they have.

Honestly, even if enterprise mail had to wait (and only be available by BB bridge), they should have cobbled together a decent POP/IMAP app months ago to make the product usable for consumers.
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From the sounds of it they're trying to make the e-mail thing secure (that's the "best" excuse I've seen). Seriously, why not just throw out a crappy consumer e-mail thing with a disclaimer saying 'nothing is secure'?

Oh right, because then they wouldn't be able to excuse themselves with the "but we're a business oriented business" anymore.
 
Imp said:
From the sounds of it they're trying to make the e-mail thing secure (that's the "best" excuse I've seen). Seriously, why not just throw out a crappy consumer e-mail thing with a disclaimer saying 'nothing is secure'?

Oh right, because then they wouldn't be able to excuse themselves with the "but we're a business oriented business" anymore.
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They had one, gmail, but Google pulled it from their app store this week, IIRC.

If you had gmail on your PlayBook, it'll work fine, but Google will no longer support it.
 
And here's RIMM at a new 52 week low, $15.98/share.

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They're selling a ton of the PlayBooks at $200, unfortunately they cost $205 to build, materials only, the R&D was expensive as hell since it was a clean slate device. Add in other costs and they're losing a ton on each one sold.

$199 direct from RIMM, no taxes, free shipping till 12/3/11: http://store.shopblackberry.com/Product/BlackBerry-PlayBook/PRD-38548-001?iid=OTC-wtbmus-nov23
 
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RIMM did it all wrong, they should have focused on a proper BBX phone and apps then scale it out to larger devices. Similar to how Apple did it by starting out with the small scale and moving out.

Two CEOS, what a fucking joke. One CEO probably says north and the other says south so the company ends up floundering around going nowhere. That would be like Microsoft with Two ballmers.
 
I'm very curious to see what comes of the rooting of the PlayBook. Could be awesome.

Edit: And for those of you who downloaded Lemma for the BlackBerry PlayBook in search of a free Twitter client, I'm working on v2.0 to vastly speed it up and improve the UI.
 
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http://www.thestar.com/business/art...k-rim-employees-divert-air-canada-flight?bn=1

"The company moved about 150,000 BlackBerry PlayBook tablets into the market during the fiscal 2012 third quarter, which ended Nov. 26."

Beautiful strategic wording. Wonder how many of the 500,000 they initially reported as "shipped" the previous quarter actually sold. On the bright side, I'm using mine at work as a stereo now...

Oh ya, and their stock is down like 9% today. Wiped out all their gains the past week from "promising news" on their next gen of phones.


Edit: Wrong link... Unless you want to read about the drunken escapades of RIM employees.

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1095920--rim-to-miss-earnings-target-on-poor-playbook-sales
 
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silverpig said:
I would love to get one too. Once BBX launches, I'll probably jump on it.
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By that time, iPad 3 will probably be out, then you can get an iPad 2 for cheap...

No plans for a new version of the Playbook and remember that it came out last March/April.

Plans are for BBX phones in Summer 2012, IIRC? And for the Playbook big update in February 2012. Dates are probably as accurate as they were in the past.
 
ultimatebob said:
Sadly, even at $199 I'd rather have a Kindle Fire.
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You and about 4 million other people...

Imp said:
By that time, iPad 3 will probably be out, then you can get an iPad 2 for cheap...

No plans for a new version of the Playbook and remember that it came out last March/April.

Plans are for BBX phones in Summer 2012, IIRC? And for the Playbook big update in February 2012. Dates are probably as accurate as they were in the past.
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So about 2013 then?
 
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