Right Or Wrong? (Sexual Ethics)

[Orsorum]

Where's the option for "This thread made me laugh out loud so hard I peed my pants"?

And, yes, I think it's wrong.

 

[0roo0roo]

put it this way, if you woke up and found your g/f using you, would you feel used? lol!

 

[BooGiMaN]

where exactly was he porking her no in the butt right?

but he should really take into consideration taht she was tired and maybe move their pleasure day to another night...

but i think he went about it the wrong way..he should have tried to at least seduce her into it..kissing her back neck etc. before going at it

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Isla
So.

Let's say a husband and wife agree to sex once or twice a week. This isn't really enough for the husband but it is more than enough for the wife. The wife complies as graciously and pleasantly as possible, but again, once or twice a week.

It's been 48 hours. Wife is VERY tired. Wife just wants to go to sleep, and very kindly says, "No sweetheart, I'm sorry, but I need to sleep".


2AM. Wife wakes up to being porked in her sleep.

Right? Why?

Wrong? Why?

Please vote in the poll and let me know what you think about situations such as this.

Personally Isla,I really like pork

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Nonconsensual == wrong

Then again if they're scheduling it and bartering for the number of times a week I think there are problems to begin with.

Not scheduling, not bartering... he wants it every day, she only has the energy for once or twice a week. He wants it like a drug to relax him (and the more stressed out he gets, the more he wants it), she wants it to be something meaningful between them and not just, "I need sex, give it to me!".

This particular wife wants to please and is not high maitenence.

 

[Orsorum]

This particular wife is an amazing woman, Isla. If he wants pork, buy him some. Then sautee it.


Damn, I need to have some food.

 

[0roo0roo]

way to much emotional investment in her concept of sex. she needs to learn the art of the quickie. keep your man happy!

 

[gopunk]

wrong, but when people are unfulfilled, bad things happen

 

[Maverick]

if you can't turn your wife on enough to where she'll want to do it even if she's a little tired, then you don't deserve to pork her.

 

[0roo0roo]

apparently you havn't watched oprah before eh? some women are just low on the horniness. you'd have to be a saint to be with em.

then you get the viscious cycle where she doesn't meet his physical needs, making him bitter, he denies her emotional needs....

 

[lowtech1]

Originally posted by: Isla

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Nonconsensual == wrong

Then again if they're scheduling it and bartering for the number of times a week I think there are problems to begin with.

Not scheduling, not bartering... he wants it every day, she only has the energy for once or twice a week. He wants it like a drug to relax him (and the more stressed out he gets, the more he wants it), she wants it to be something meaningful between them and not just, "I need sex, give it to me!".

This particular wife wants to please and is not high maitenence.

Just give him a gift like a health clup membership, or both could join a sport club or dancing lesson. The trick to it is tire him out by other means, and you get what you want at the same time (romance). It is only a suggestion, because I haven't done this with anyone (It worked for my brother inlaw & my sister).

Good luck!

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Isla
So.

Let's say a husband and wife agree to sex once or twice a week. This isn't really enough for the husband but it is more than enough for the wife. The wife complies as graciously and pleasantly as possible, but again, once or twice a week.

It's been 48 hours. Wife is VERY tired. Wife just wants to go to sleep, and very kindly says, "No sweetheart, I'm sorry, but I need to sleep".


2AM. Wife wakes up to being porked in her sleep.

Right? Why?

Wrong? Why?

Please vote in the poll and let me know what you think about situations such as this.

"the wife complies as graciously and pleasantly as possible"? that phrase just seems so sad.

 

[SilverThief]

Originally posted by: Isla

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Nonconsensual == wrong

Then again if they're scheduling it and bartering for the number of times a week I think there are problems to begin with.

Not scheduling, not bartering... he wants it every day, she only has the energy for once or twice a week. He wants it like a drug to relax him (and the more stressed out he gets, the more he wants it), she wants it to be something meaningful between them and not just, "I need sex, give it to me!".

This particular wife wants to please and is not high maitenence.

I think I'm in love...whoever she is.

:heart:

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I've woken up to my gf doing that to me at 3-4am. Less than a week later I broke up with her. I will not tolerate being disrespected like that.

She defended herself by saying she thought I wouldn't mind. She figured every guy would like some girl to just help themselves. She also mentioned that if I was to ever do that to her, she would be outraged, because she would feel that I was raping her.

::shakes head::

You're the only guy that I know that would dump a girlfriend because she gave you random sex :Q

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I've woken up to my gf doing that to me at 3-4am. Less than a week later I broke up with her. I will not tolerate being disrespected like that.

She defended herself by saying she thought I wouldn't mind. She figured every guy would like some girl to just help themselves. She also mentioned that if I was to ever do that to her, she would be outraged, because she would feel that I was raping her.

::shakes head::

You are a 1% minority.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I've woken up to my gf doing that to me at 3-4am. Less than a week later I broke up with her. I will not tolerate being disrespected like that.

She defended herself by saying she thought I wouldn't mind. She figured every guy would like some girl to just help themselves. She also mentioned that if I was to ever do that to her, she would be outraged, because she would feel that I was raping her.

::shakes head::

You are a 1% minority.

More like one in a googleplex.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I've woken up to my gf doing that to me at 3-4am. Less than a week later I broke up with her. I will not tolerate being disrespected like that.

She defended herself by saying she thought I wouldn't mind. She figured every guy would like some girl to just help themselves. She also mentioned that if I was to ever do that to her, she would be outraged, because she would feel that I was raping her.

::shakes head::

You're the only guy that I know that would dump a girlfriend because she gave you random sex :Q

yup, unless she was analy violating him in the process, he must be gay course some people are into that too, not that theres anything wrong with that

he sounds like he has a stick up his butt though.

 

[AmerDoux]

Originally posted by: Isla
So.

Let's say a husband and wife agree to sex once or twice a week. This isn't really enough for the husband but it is more than enough for the wife. The wife complies as graciously and pleasantly as possible, but again, once or twice a week.

It's been 48 hours. Wife is VERY tired. Wife just wants to go to sleep, and very kindly says, "No sweetheart, I'm sorry, but I need to sleep".


2AM. Wife wakes up to being porked in her sleep.

Right? Why?

Wrong? Why?

Please vote in the poll and let me know what you think about situations such as this.

Remove all of the other dynamics/personal opinions. It is wrong based on the singular fact that he asked her and she told him no, she was too tired.

He did it anyway.

 

[Isla]

Well, at least we have quite a discussion going on here.

The good news is, she has been very gentle about the whole thing and has not been mad at him. (Not one harsh word, thankyouverymuch) There will be no retaliation, no recriminations, no war started. She did let him know that she was upset about it, but upset as in "concerned". Concerned as in "worried". "Worried" because when you try your best but your best isn't good enough, what else do you do? There is a history of sexual abuse in the husband's family so perhaps this is a consequence from growing up in an environment where things that are definitely wrong go on.

Anyway, they are going to bring it up in their ongoing counseling sessions and continue to let the professionals help them deal with it.

Thank you for the insight, wisdom, support, and humor!

 

[heartsurgeon]

for all you starry eyed adolescents, let me fill you in on a cruel reality..

the sex drive of men and women are totally different.

women do not crave sex the way men do (less testosterone, a fact of biology and life)
women crave sex considerably less after children are born
women may not crave sex at all after menopause.

men crave sex all the time, no matter how old they are.
with age, men can control the urges better (or at least they are supposed to)

example? Hillary and Bill Clinton..my bet is that hillary did it like a bunny with bill until chelsea was born..then kinda lost interest..ultimately
no interest at all in sex after menopause. She doesn't care about sex now. Bill?..well, he's as horny now as the first day he went off to college..
do i like bill clinton, absolutely not. do i understand where he's coming from? absolutely yes.

the "i'm to tired for sex" is just the beginning of the "winding down" phenomenon of sexual interest in the female.. (have you ever heard a guy say
he's to tired for sex? is their a guy alive who wouldn't be thrilled to be awaken by the wife giving him a hummer?)

this issue will only get worse with time...the woman in this situation is being selfish in my opinion for not keeping her end of the agreement intact.
if she intends to cut back on sex..she should admit it up front to the guy..not mislead him.

let the flaming begin.....

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
for all you starry eyed adolescents, let me fill you in on a cruel reality..

the sex drive of men and women are totally different.

women do not crave sex the way men do (less testosterone, a fact of biology and life)
women crave sex considerably less after children are born
women may not crave sex at all after menopause.

men crave sex all the time, no matter how old they are.
with age, men can control the urges better (or at least they are supposed to)

example? Hillary and Bill Clinton..my bet is that hillary did it like a bunny with bill until chelsea was born..then kinda lost interest..ultimately
no interest at all in sex after menopause. She doesn't care about sex now. Bill?..well, he's as horny now as the first day he went off to college..
do i like bill clinton, absolutely not. do i understand where he's coming from? absolutely yes.

the "i'm to tired for sex" is just the beginning of the "winding down" phenomenon of sexual interest in the female.. (have you ever heard a guy say
he's to tired for sex? is their a guy alive who wouldn't be thrilled to be awaken by the wife giving him a hummer?)

this issue will only get worse with time...the woman in this situation is being selfish in my opinion for not keeping her end of the agreement intact.
if she intends to cut back on sex..she should admit it up front to the guy..not mislead him.

let the flaming begin.....

Well,I might be some sort of freak but I disagree with much of what you've said here,sex in my experience has just gottten better and better over the years.

I do feel that what goes on..or doesn't go in the bedroom is a barometer of the health of the relationship as a whole.It sounds like a compatability mismatch made even worse by power/control issues.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

women do not crave sex the way men do (less testosterone, a fact of biology and life)
women crave sex considerably less after children are born

men crave sex all the time, no matter how old they are.

These statements all need a "most" in front of them.

 

[jjones]

I pork my wife all the time when she's sleeping; she rather enjoys it so I'm told. Fortunately for me, my wife never passed up a good porking..........from me only, so don't get any ideas.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: jjones
I pork my wife all the time when she's sleeping; she rather enjoys it so I'm told. Fortunately for me, my wife never passed up a good porking..........from me only, so don't get any ideas.

"Pork,the other white meat"

lol,Isla,excuse me,I can't help myself tonight

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
What kind of sick person need sex more than twice a week? If you need it that much, you need help.

:Q

I beg to differ. We're twice a day people.

As for the original question... it's definately weird, at the least. I'd say it's a no-no.