Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

SP33Demon · Jul 10, 2012

Chiropteran said:
The greatest paradox of Prometheus:

Almost all of the haters spent $12+ to go see the movie that they hate so much. Why? It's a mystery, we will never know the answer.

It wasn't a map, but an invitation to line Ridley's wallet and then complain that every detail wasn't explained. And half of the whiners will buy the Blu-ray and see the sequel = the best part.

SP33Demon · Jul 10, 2012

Ichinisan said:
Yeah. Also, the dead Engineer made them freak out and try to leave early...so why did they return and enter that room? They had to step over the dead Engineer to enter it.

Yep, pretty much my biggest problem with the movie. That really didn't make sense to me.

Also, did the snake infect Fifield as well to turn him into the crab/human? That would be interesting to follow in the sequel.

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

Chiropteran said:
The greatest paradox of Prometheus:

Almost all of the haters spent $12+ to go see the movie that they hate so much. Why? It's a mystery, we will never know the answer.

No, it's actually a very easy answer and no mystery. You see, when the bits and pieces that made up of the so called advertisement for the movie played, we thought it was a good movie. Then, we watched the movie, and the smart ones realized that it was shit.

The stupid ones? You know what happened.

Some of them are in this very thread.

One of them is quoted in this post.

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

You know what else is stupid? The fuckers that are too stupid to realize that they've been taken and made up all kinds of improbable bullshit to defend a shit movie.

You've been taken. A good movie isn't supposed to leave you make up shits for it's crappiness.

SP33Demon · Jul 10, 2012

SSSnail said:
You know what else is stupid? The fuckers that are too stupid to realize that they've been taken and made up all kinds of improbable bullshit to defend a shit movie.

You've been taken. A good movie isn't supposed to leave you make up shits for it's crappiness.

Exactly how I felt after watching Ted.

900 Posts and counting for this thread. I'd be surprised if Ted was even over 350 posts.

Chiropteran · Jul 10, 2012

Only in backwords land.

The smart people pay $12 for shit, the dumb people enjoy the movie they paid to see. And I guess the really really dumb people wait for netflix.

0roo0roo · Jul 10, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koHjZg8W0Sw
Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project #6 - Prometheus

glen · Jul 10, 2012

0roo0roo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koHjZg8W0Sw
Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project #6 - Prometheus

Bah, they don't seem to talk about Prometheus until 15 mins in.

-Slacker- · Jul 10, 2012

One other thing that doesn't make sense to me (which I realize that it might have already been discussed several times in some of the 900 posts but, you know ... 900 posts of backtracking... yeah...)

Why is the android willing to test the ooze, an essentially unidentified substance that could be a danger to the entire expedition in any number of ways, on a crew member?

Was there something to suggest that it could have been some kind of eternal life elixir, even though the only thing he knew about it was that it contained some human DNA? What if the effect of the "experiment turned out negative (horrible, backfiring effects that would put Weiland's and the rest of the crew's lives in jeopardy not withstanding) - what would he move on to next? Looking for another random piece of alien technology to infect the next canon-fodder crew member with?

And why was Weyland so impatient for results? He couldn't wait a few more days of proper exploration and research from, you know, the explorers and researches that he payed a trillion "credits" to round up for the mission, considering all the top of the line research hardware that they had on the ship, when he already spent 4 years in hyper sleep? Because, at that point, they had no reason to believe they were in any danger, and didn't need to rush things.

Or, maybe Weyland didn't mean anything that extreme when he told the android to "try harder", but the android suffered a short circuit in his robot brain and could no longer make use of any of his basic common sense faculties - which would explain why he thought that all children want to kill their parents because Vickers had feelings of animosity toward her father... So much for his billions of zeta-flops of computing power.

And what was he going to do when the crew found out that they were being experimented on by the ship's synthetic? Was he planning to kill everyone and conduct the research on his own? What was his backup plan for when he would run out of guinnea pigs? (Although, considering the crew's inexplicable willingness to instantly move on from and forget horrible acts done to them by their ship mates, that might not have been as big an issue as one would expect...)

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

Chiropteran said:
Only in backwords land.

The smart people pay $12 for shit, the dumb people enjoy the movie they paid to see. And I guess the really really dumb people wait for netflix.

Proof positive of even more dummy-ness found. Misspelling because you type fast is one thing, misspelling because you don't know is another. O is NOWHERE near A on the keyboard.

Smart people pay to see a movie that they HAVEN'T SEEN, then they made an INFORM decision based on the contents provided. You see how that works? I know this is difficult for you, but try to think for a second. That's what smart people do, analyze the shits that are presented to them.

Dumb people? They pay to see a crap movie full of plot holes, improbabilities and contradictions, then they make up stupid shits to explain to their brains why they have to enjoy the movie (keep in mind the stupid shits made up by them only make sense to themselves). Not only that, the movie contained a chock full of stupid unnecessary scenes that are just fillers without context. Scenes that would make even 6 yrs old kid yell "WTF! WHY?"

I guess then according to you, I can just put together random scenes that make no sense, pretty it up and sell it to you, and your ilk.

Ns1 · Jul 10, 2012

SSSnail said:
I guess then according to you, I can just put together random scenes that make no sense, pretty it up and sell it to you, and your ilk.

100% guarantee that you won't get a 909 post thread about it.

Ridley Scott > you

Ns1 · Jul 10, 2012

WOW, great article on the cgi work behind prometheus

http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/prometheus

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

Ns1 said:
100% guarantee that you won't get a 909 post thread about it.

Ridley Scott > you

That's just it, I would need to make something good prior to that.

Also see Star Wars >>> everything after...

Someday, I really hope people can learn the distinction between intellectually stimulating or thoughts provoking, and just intellectually insulting.

Ns1 · Jul 10, 2012

SSSnail said:
That's just it, I would need to make something good prior to that.

Also see Star Wars >>> everything after...

Someday, I really hope people can learn the distinction between intellectually stimulating or thoughts provoking, and just intellectually insulting.

And yet you're the one calling all of us dumbasses for enjoying prometheus.

Prometheus is a polarizing film. Roger Ebert gave it a perfect 4*. Would you call him a dumbass to his face?

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

Ns1 said:
And yet you're the one calling all of us dumbasses for enjoying prometheus.

Prometheus is a polarizing film. Roger Ebert gave it a perfect 4*. Would you call him a dumbass to his face?

Not "all of us", just because you said that, didn't mean it's true. Most of the people in this thread are intelligent beings, and I wouldn't lump them into the dumb category.

You understand that prior to making this shit show, Ridley did make some great stuff right? That's why the studio gave him cart blanch authority to direct this crap. I'm going to seriously wait for reviews before seeing the next Ridley's movie as a result of this.

And, what did I post that didn't make any sense to you? So according to you, I have to make a great movie before I can criticize as a viewer? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Watch the link to Adam Savage's bashing of Prometheus, and notice the thumb-ups. You and a few fervent defenders in this thread can go ahead and put your thumb-downs on it.

LOL, and Roger Ebert? He's another viewer, with opinions, just like you and I.

SSSnail · Jul 10, 2012

Ichinisan · Jul 11, 2012

-Slacker- said:
One other thing that doesn't make sense to me (which I realize that it might have already been discussed several times in some of the 900 posts but, you know ... 900 posts of backtracking... yeah...)

Why is the android willing to test the ooze, an essentially unidentified substance that could be a danger to the entire expedition in any number of ways, on a crew member?

Was there something to suggest that it could have been some kind of eternal life elixir, even though the only thing he knew about it was that it contained some human DNA? What if the effect of the "experiment turned out negative (horrible, backfiring effects that would put Weiland's and the rest of the crew's lives in jeopardy not withstanding) - what would he move on to next? Looking for another random piece of alien technology to infect the next canon-fodder crew member with?

And why was Weyland so impatient for results? He couldn't wait a few more days of proper exploration and research from, you know, the explorers and researches that he payed a trillion "credits" to round up for the mission, considering all the top of the line research hardware that they had on the ship, when he already spent 4 years in hyper sleep? Because, at that point, they had no reason to believe they were in any danger, and didn't need to rush things.

Or, maybe Weyland didn't mean anything that extreme when he told the android to "try harder", but the android suffered a short circuit in his robot brain and could no longer make use of any of his basic common sense faculties - which would explain why he thought that all children want to kill their parents because Vickers had feelings of animosity toward her father... So much for his billions of zeta-flops of computing power.

And what was he going to do when the crew found out that they were being experimented on by the ship's synthetic? Was he planning to kill everyone and conduct the research on his own? What was his backup plan for when he would run out of guinnea pigs? (Although, considering the crew's inexplicable willingness to instantly move on from and forget horrible acts done to them by their ship mates, that might not have been as big an issue as one would expect...)

Weyland did say that he had only a few days left to live. Finding a way to extend his life was a long-shot, but he was desperate.

KlokWyze · Jul 11, 2012

Great movie that took a lot of risks. Alien was much tighter and well put together than Aliens, but the sequel took way more risks and had a huge payoff. It's certainly the favorite across the board.

Prometheus took A LOT of risks and it ended up shooting itself in the foot in many ways... this will bother you IF you are looking for problems. I tend to go into movies with an open mind and not just nitpick every single little thing. This kind of attitude let's you ENJOY the movie. Well, unless of course one enjoys bitching and moaning while watching and afterwords on the internet more.

<moaning>
One thing that bothered me was that the initial mutations of the worms that killed the 1st 2 crew member seemed to up and disappear.

Oh yeah, and the super smart robot bitch couldn't RUN TO THE LEFT while the ship was rolling towards her.

</moaning>

-Slacker- · Jul 11, 2012

Ichinisan said:
Weyland did say that he had only a few days left to live. Finding a way to extend his life was a long-shot, but he was desperate.

Yeah, but I'm assuming he meant a few days to live outside of his cryogenic/hibernating pod. The guy slept 4 years (and conveniently woke up within days of his death), what's a few more days of suspended animation?

zinfamous · Jul 11, 2012

SSSnail said:
In case you missed it.

This is what most intelligent people are telling you in this thread.

for all the raging nerders in this thread:

what is your film experience?

serious question.

_Rick_ · Jul 11, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BKwYvNE3U

This could've been the trailer for Prometheus

IHateMyJob2004 · Jul 11, 2012

-Slacker- said:
One other thing that doesn't make sense to me (which I realize that it might have already been discussed several times in some of the 900 posts but, you know ... 900 posts of backtracking... yeah...)

Why is the android willing to test the ooze, an essentially unidentified substance that could be a danger to the entire expedition in any number of ways, on a crew member?

Because he was workign for that old guy who was dieing but when this occured we did not know the old guy was actually on the ship. The crew member was the foutnain of youth guinie pig

Was there something to suggest that it could have been some kind of eternal life elixir, even though the only thing he knew about it was that it contained some human DNA? What if the effect of the "experiment turned out negative (horrible, backfiring effects that would put Weiland's and the rest of the crew's lives in jeopardy not withstanding) - what would he move on to next? Looking for another random piece of alien technology to infect the next canon-fodder crew member with?

Yes, it was obvios it was hoped to be a life elixer. Remmeber, the old guy though that this planet held the geneisis to life. They had to try and find it in quick order.

As for the potential side effects, it's called a plot device and you know what this movie was going to be about, right?

And why was Weyland so impatient for results? He couldn't wait a few more days of proper exploration and research from, you know, the explorers and researches that he payed a trillion "credits" to round up for the mission, considering all the top of the line research hardware that they had on the ship, when he already spent 4 years in hyper sleep? Because, at that point, they had no reason to believe they were in any danger, and didn't need to rush things.

This is a two hour movie. Not a TV mini series where all paths can be explored.

Or, maybe Weyland didn't mean anything that extreme when he told the android to "try harder", but the android suffered a short circuit in his robot brain and could no longer make use of any of his basic common sense faculties - which would explain why he thought that all children want to kill their parents because Vickers had feelings of animosity toward her father... So much for his billions of zeta-flops of computing power.

And what was he going to do when the crew found out that they were being experimented on by the ship's synthetic? Was he planning to kill everyone and conduct the research on his own? What was his backup plan for when he would run out of guinnea pigs? (Although, considering the crew's inexplicable willingness to instantly move on from and forget horrible acts done to them by their ship mates, that might not have been as big an issue as one would expect

It's a movie. Not real life.

IHateMyJob2004 · Jul 11, 2012

Am I the only one here that thinks about all the crap Hollywood produces and puts Promethus in the top 10% of all sci fi coming out of Hollywood these days? More thought provoking than all the comic book based movies Hollywood churns out thee days.

Triumph · Jul 11, 2012

IHateMyJob2004 said:
Because he was workign for that old guy who was dieing but when this occured we did not know the old guy was actually on the ship. The crew member was the foutnain of youth guinie pig

Yes, it was obvios it was hoped to be a life elixer. Remmeber, the old guy though that this planet held the geneisis to life. They had to try and find it in quick order.

As for the potential side effects, it's called a plot device and you know what this movie was going to be about, right?

This is a two hour movie. Not a TV mini series where all paths can be explored.

It's a movie. Not real life.

Really? Spoiler alert at this point? Fixed for you.

Chiropteran · Jul 11, 2012

IHateMyJob2004 said:
Am I the only one here that thinks about all the crap Hollywood produces and puts Promethus in the top 10% of all sci fi coming out of Hollywood these days? More thought provoking than all the comic book based movies Hollywood churns out thee days.

That is exactly it. I asked earlier in this thread : what sci-fi movies in the last 5 years were better than Prometheus? Whats the top 10 look like for the average poster in this thread?

I can think of a few I liked more (Moon for example), but compared to the average movie lately Prometheus scores pretty well, both IMO and on rotten tomatoes/imdb.

I mean, the number one complaint in this thread seems to be "BUT ALIEN WAS A BETTAR MOVIE WAH WAH!"

Alien is over 30 years old!

If Prometheus is the next best thing and you can't find a superior example over the last thirty years, maybe it's not really the total shit movie you seem to think it is.

Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

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