Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[Ichinisan]

lol

Zinfamous. Going the distance.

Movie sounds retarded. I'll wait for it to be on Netflix.

I hope you're getting the Blu-ray disc by mail. The visuals are the best reason to watch this movie.

 

[dwell]

So watched Alien (1979) again yesterday and knew I didn't want to wait for Prometheus on Blu-ray so I spoiled it via wiki and Youtube. Wow, they managed to do only what Lucas could accomplish -- ruin the original by over-explaining the canon.

So, the Space Jockey, the thing we been wondering about for the past 30+ years is some dude in a spacesuit? Why did they have to ruin things?

 

[Chiropteran]

So watched Alien (1979) again yesterday and knew I didn't want to wait for Prometheus on Blu-ray so I spoiled it via wiki and Youtube. Wow, they managed to do only what Lucas could accomplish -- ruin the original by over-explaining the canon.

So, the Space Jockey, the thing we been wondering about for the past 30+ years is some dude in a spacesuit? Why did they have to ruin things?

50 people in this thread whining and crying about how they didn't explain the growth of the squid, the reason for David to ignore the commands of the crew, or the reason for the over-zealous scientist to ignore his "infection" and then there is you complaining that they explained way too much.

You just can't make everyone happy.

 

[gorcorps]

LOL @ people complaining about realism in a science FICTION movie

 

[Ricochet]

Over-explaining the canon is not the problem. What the canon has evolved to over time is the problem. It's too free-forming and subjective to the producer/director's mood or whim at any given time. If this was intended from the very beginning, the first Alien movie would have been a lot different. Don't tell me this whole Alien Jesus story angle was intended from the beginning. We're suppose to believe that the 20+ foot alien carcass in that derelict ship is human? Are continuity and coherent script too much to ask?

Edit: Remember Heroes the TV series. The 1st season was great. It felt like there was a clear direction and plot direction seems to make sense. Later on it fell apart due to the writers strike. Because continuity went out the window so did the show's quality.

 

[BladeVenom]

This was posted in another topic, but it did remind me of Prometheus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dntgHBHzDgI

 

[dwell]

Over-explaining the canon is not the problem. What the canon has evolved to over time is the problem. It's too free-forming and subjective to the producer/director's mood or whim at any given time. If this was intended from the very beginning, the first Alien movie would have been a lot different. Don't tell me this whole Alien Jesus story angle was intended from the beginning. We're suppose to believe that the 20+ foot alien carcass in that derelict ship is human? Are continuity and coherent script too much to ask?

Edit: Remember Heroes the TV series. The 1st season was great. It felt like there was a clear direction and plot direction seems to make sense. Later on it fell apart due to the writers strike. Because continuity went out the window so did the show's quality.

The first Alien movie was a stroke of luck and a stroke of genius. Using HR Gieger's concepts was a huge risk and pretty ballsy of the time. Even today his artwork is pretty disturbing. Space Jockey, Derelict, and even the xenomorph were just Gieger's concepts made into real life models. Thing is, all that stuff shouldn't be explained it just have just been left at, "WTF was that weird shit I just saw?"

All the Prometheus stuff seems like midichlorians. None of it was in mind when the 1979 film was made and every sequel added that writer's ideas. The films went downhill after Aliens so need to even watch the others or Prometheus.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

LOL @ people complaining about realism in a science FICTION movie

LOL @ people that sip up pseudo-philosophical crap that isn't even internally consistent and then dismiss those who call bullshit under the guise that it is "fiction".

 

[SP33Demon]

But it was a futuristic space axe. In 80 years axes will have micro lasers built in that can cut through titanium.

If the painkillers injections could give her Wolverines mutant healing powers, then they also could have given her Superman's strength.

It could have, you're right. But since a futuristic shotgun that hit the 9ft engineer twice didn't hurt him, even a micro laser fireaxe would be negated by the Engineer's armor considering that a futuristic shotgun > futuristic mini fireaxe.

Did you see some of her jumps? She was clearly fine and withstood a chest slam by the 300+lb Engineer. While it wasn't superman's strength, she was clearly stronger than a normal human female from our time period and it could have easily been from the injections.

 

[Triumph]

It could have, you're right. But since a futuristic shotgun that hit the 9ft engineer twice didn't hurt him, even a micro laser fireaxe would be negated by the Engineer's armor considering that a futuristic shotgun > futuristic mini fireaxe.

Did you see some of her jumps? She was clearly fine and withstood a chest slam by the 300+lb Engineer. While it wasn't superman's strength, she was clearly stronger than a normal human female from our time period and it could have easily been from the injections.

now you're just being sarcastic, right? right?

 

[SP33Demon]

now you're just being sarcastic, right? right?

^Is this person still talking with nothing to add about the movie? lol

 

[silverpig]

I saw it last night for the first time. It was pretty good, but yeah, there's a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense. I hope they make the sequel though.

Perception has a lot to do with expectations. I expected AvP to be a steaming pile of crap, and was very happy when it turned out to be entertaining. Not good, but entertaining. It exceeded my expectations.

Prometheus was better than AvP, but I had higher expectations, so was left somewhat disappointed.

 

[Magusigne]

I saw it last night for the first time. It was pretty good, but yeah, there's a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense. I hope they make the sequel though.

Perception has a lot to do with expectations. I expected AvP to be a steaming pile of crap, and was very happy when it turned out to be entertaining. Not good, but entertaining. It exceeded my expectations.

Prometheus was better than AvP, but I had higher expectations, so was left somewhat disappointed.

AvP pissed me off the most. I was like..how could they F' this up....and they did.

Similar to Prometheus..I feel like if they took out the last 1 minute when the proto alien came out of the engineer, it would have been a bit better.

They showed a "Normal" alien on the mural. And David found the typical alien goo on the controls to the holograms. They also had exploded ribcages (ala facehugger popping).

You would think they would make smaller adjustments to these scenes for continuity purposes.

 

[amish]

how is this thread still alive?

 

[glen]

how is this thread still alive?

Becasue the original, Alien, and sequel, Aliens, were so good, and this Prequel was so bad.

 

[Triumph]

^Is this person still talking with nothing to add about the movie? lol

because this statement:

Did you see some of her jumps? She was clearly fine and withstood a chest slam by the 300+lb Engineer. While it wasn't superman's strength, she was clearly stronger than a normal human female from our time period and it could have easily been from the injections.

is something that would come out of the mouth of an 8 year old, so I'm not sure if serious.

 

[SP33Demon]

because this statement:

Did you see some of her jumps? She was clearly fine and withstood a chest slam by the 300+lb Engineer. While it wasn't superman's strength, she was clearly stronger than a normal human female from our time period and it could have easily been from the injections.

is something that would come out of the mouth of an 8 year old, so I'm not sure if serious.

Some of the jumps she made were ridiculous for someone you claim was injured. Feel free to bow out of the discussion again by talking about children. I know, you're scared to use your brain but try to keep up.

 

[baydude]

Lame:
Her having a baby in a day
Aborting the baby so easily
That baby growing to an octopus size that doesn't even resemble a human at all
That male alien growing another baby after it died..WTF?

 

[zinfamous]

I hope you're getting the Blu-ray disc by mail. The visuals are the best reason to watch this movie.

this. I honestly didn't give a flip about inconsistencies (they are so preposterously trite in this flick) because the visuals were completely stunning.

I think most of this and probably upcoming generations are forever lost when it comes to quality content (not saying Prometheus is serious quality).

Ridley Scott knows how to create suspense: simply running through a long tunnel--the camera following an actual human doing this, rather than a CGI flipping, spinning, punching, fighting sass-talking indestructible robot with zero stakes--is worth more emotional content than 90% of what today's filmmakers can generate.

people complain about "nerd rage" because this adherence to some sort of "canon" that, in all honesty, does not really exist and is in no way sacred, completely scars one from being able to enjoy content for what it is.

Yes, this film creates far more questions than answers.

....and you know what? So does science--the one discipline that is all about creating questions, not answers.

 

[zinfamous]

how is this thread still alive?

nerds + internet = rage

 

[Triumph]

Some of the jumps she made were ridiculous for someone you claim was injured. Feel free to bow out of the discussion again by talking about children. I know, you're scared to use your brain but try to keep up.

the comment is so juvenile as to not be worth a reasoned response. i will bow out, because i only bow in occasionally to stir the beehive of Prometheus fanbois. it's fun to watch you all get worked into a frenzy when someone insults your precious film.

 

[SP33Demon]

Someone call the wahhhmbulance. Or the ancient aliens guy for the stupidity in this thread.

 

[RPD]

I tried my best to not read anything or any spoilers about the movie and just saw it tonight (finally).

Unfortunately I did read some of the knit picking stuff at the tail end of this thread. But even my brother in law picked out a fairly bad one at the end of the movie when she's lower David's body down the crashed space jockey, she has her helmet on and her hair is blowing.. a lot.

But I think the my biggest grip with all the inconsistencies could have been solved rather easy. I thought it was ironic the guy with the mapping "dogs" was also the one that got lost. When told a life form was one blip west of them they immediately decided to go east, but when the little snake thing appears they want to fucking pet it? I mean they couldn't have had the snake thing just sneak up on them?

I had high expectations and wasn't severely disappointed, but was kinda disappointed at how predictable it was.

 

[Chiropteran]

The greatest paradox of Prometheus:

Almost all of the haters spent $12+ to go see the movie that they hate so much. Why? It's a mystery, we will never know the answer.

 

[Ichinisan]

I tried my best to not read anything or any spoilers about the movie and just saw it tonight (finally).

Unfortunately I did read some of the knit picking stuff at the tail end of this thread. But even my brother in law picked out a fairly bad one at the end of the movie when she's lower David's body down the crashed space jockey, she has her helmet on and her hair is blowing.. a lot.

But I think the my biggest grip with all the inconsistencies could have been solved rather easy. I thought it was ironic the guy with the mapping "dogs" was also the one that got lost. When told a life form was one blip west of them they immediately decided to go east, but when the little snake thing appears they want to fucking pet it? I mean they couldn't have had the snake thing just sneak up on them?

I had high expectations and wasn't severely disappointed, but was kinda disappointed at how predictable it was.

Yeah. Also, the dead Engineer made them freak out and try to leave early...so why did they return and enter that room? They had to step over the dead Engineer to enter it.