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cyclohexane

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zinfamous

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I know exactly what you're referring to--it's your understanding that is off.

Today, there is no great challenge in extracting "ancient dinosaur DNA" from birds--birds are dinosaurs. Their DNA is dinosaur DNA.

What they would be doing is expressing and overexpressing certain regions of the genome that they think might develop a more reptilian dinosaur creature, and of course they need to grow that fetus in some other type of egg...a gator, maybe? I'm not sure, really.

Either, way, no idea what this has to do with what you think needs to be in primary education. This stuff can be discussed and is discussed in a good science course. But of course it is only relevant when you understand that the planet is 4.5 billion years old, dinosaurs evolved into birds, Jesus never rode one, and creationism has no place in that classroom.

If you are arguing that high school science courses need access to Solexa sequencing machines, IACUC access, protocols, animal facilities, BG1 and 2 access to perform recombinant experiments, then well....that's kinda cool, really, but extremely naive and quite simply--the expertise and knowledge for 98% of teenagers simply won't be there.

If you are further arguing, as you often do, that that type of access is the only "true science," whatever you mean by that, then you are just being daft again.
 

Texashiker

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You clearly don't understand what science is or how it works. You are part of the problem with this nation and why we lag so far behind in science and math education. You're downright proud of your ignorance. Which I find detestable.

You clearly do not understand how dumb evolutionist make themselves look.


My parents made me rake the leaves and mow the lawn when I was a kid. Little did I know they were slave drivers.

Those were your parents. And has such were able to make you do things.

The government on the other hand conscripted you by force and threat of legal action against your parents if they did not conform.
 

fskimospy

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Those were your parents. And has such were able to make you do things.

The government on the other hand conscripted you by force and threat of legal action against your parents if they did not conform.

Why do my parents get to conscript me? Why is that not slavery?
 

ivwshane

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Holy shit! I knew Texashiker had some mental issues but I didn't know he was borderline retarded!

Way to show everyone how stupid you are!

Even more ironic is that you want everyone else to explain scientific theory to you and how evolution works, all which would have been taught to you had you stayed in school or paid attention. Lol
 

fskimospy

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Your parents are responsible for your actions. Responsibility and authority have to go hand-in-hand.

Says who? Why are my parents responsible for my actions and why does this mean that they can force me to labor without pay?

You're just an apologist for slavery.
 

fskimospy

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Says who? Says the state. The state says your parents have to take care of you.

Its not like they can abort you when you are 10 years old.

The same state that says you have to go to school. They have declared themselves responsible for your education in the same way they declared your parents responsible for you and with responsibility comes authority.

Aren't you glad we cleared this up?
 

cyclohexane

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Sadly, I think TH lacks the intellectual capacity to even flip burgers. Curious as to what he does for a living, and why anyone would give him a paycheck.
 

thraashman

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You clearly do not understand how dumb evolutionist make themselves look.

Just because you are too uneducated and unintelligent to understand something does not mean that those who do understand the proof of something are dumb. It means that your choice to be ignorant is sad. Again, there is no such thing as someone who "believes" in evolution. Belief indicates lack of proof. Evolution is either something you understand the facts of or don't. Just like I don't "not believe in" differential equations, I just suck at them.
 

zinfamous

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Well you are just downright dumb aren't you?

It's a term coined by Creationists, because they think they have an enemy. There are no evolutionists.

Technically, we would all be evolutionists--well, the educated ones, anyway.

The closest approximation to such a term would be biologist, because there is no biology without evolution.
 

Retro Rob

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Just because you are too uneducated and unintelligent to understand something does not mean that those who do understand the proof of something are dumb. It means that your choice to be ignorant is sad. Again, there is no such thing as someone who "believes" in evolution. Belief indicates lack of proof. Evolution is either something you understand the facts of or don't. Just like I don't "not believe in" differential equations, I just suck at them.

Um...no, it doesn't.
 

Texashiker

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The same state that says you have to go to school. They have declared themselves responsible for your education in the same way they declared your parents responsible for you and with responsibility comes authority.

Aren't you glad we cleared this up?

The state is not responsible for you.

If that was the fact we would not have poverty or homeless.


Sadly, I think TH lacks the intellectual capacity to even flip burgers. Curious as to what he does for a living, and why anyone would give him a paycheck.

You dont even understand what happened in this thread. This is a classic bait and switch.

First I baited the evolutionary zealots, then presented my real debate.

I never said in this thread I did not believe in evolution. The zealots "assumed" I did not. then when they realized they were baited they got pissed off.

Suckers.


Just because you are too uneducated and unintelligent to understand something does not mean that those who do understand the proof of something are dumb.

Let the butt hurt flow through you.

Well, if you're going to admit to trolling, I'll oblige you with the infraction for it. -Admin DrPizza
 
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thraashman

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Um...no, it doesn't.

You "believe" that which you have not the proof of, you "know" that for which you have proof. I know evolutionary theory, or a good amount of it at least, I do not believe in it because I have proof.
 

fskimospy

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The state is not responsible for you.

If that was the fact we would not have poverty or homeless.

I said for your education, which they clearly are. Thus with responsibility comes authority.

It's your own logic. Let the butt hurt flow through you, haha.
 

Jhhnn

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Perry might be a slow learner, but he knows when to grandstand for the mouth breathers, secessionists, tenthers, truthers, birthers, creationists & other unfortunates in his base. He also has to pander to the uber-wealthy conservatives who own & run Texas, as well.

They might rank near the bottom for spending on education, but they're right at the top for spending on executions, and that's all that really matters, right?
 

ivwshane

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The state is not responsible for you.

If that was the fact we would not have poverty or homeless.




You dont even understand what happened in this thread. This is a classic bait and switch.

First I baited the evolutionary zealots, then presented my real debate.

I never said in this thread I did not believe in evolution. The zealots "assumed" I did not. then when they realized they were baited they got pissed off.

Suckers.




Let the butt hurt flow through you.


So you were trolling?
 

Retro Rob

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You "believe" that which you have not the proof of, you "know" that for which you have proof. I know evolutionary theory, or a good amount of it at least, I do not believe in it because I have proof.

Since evolution isn't absolute truth, you have to "believe" that more evidence will continue to be discovered, or you may as well stop looking. Heck, without that belief, I don't think you can objectively do science.