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IronWing

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I had to go read up on who Stossel is. I'll file his highly valued opinions in the bin where I keep my own.
 

werepossum

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I don't understand why anyone would want to cut the department of energy. Both perry and Gary Johnson have stated this. it's literally insane.
Strange how we survived without it until Carter, eh?

This is a remarkably, if not surprisingly, vacuous position. Does it not occur to you that when it comes to matters of the greatest importance (and the management of our nuclear material, the most devastating and potentially destructive force ever assembled by man, is self-evidently such a matter), it might be useful to have the person in charge be someone with relevant subject-matter knowledge? How else is he supposed to know whether the advice he's receiving is correct and/or prudent? Perry has no knowledge or experience when it comes to the most important facet of his appointed position, the management and supervision of our nuclear programs.

For what it's worth, I do think it's helpful, other things being equal, that the President be someone with a military background, because it's both culturally and factually helpful in making key military decisions. I certainly would not take the view (as you seem to be doing) that this is not a relevant credential, although it is obviously not a prerequisite for holding the office (it has, in fact, become clear that to a meaningful percentage of the American electorate, there literally are no prerequisites, be they experiential, intellectual or tempermental, to holding the office of President).
You are forgetting Perry's other qualifications, like being able to name all the Teletubbies. Sure, maybe they aren't the same names everyone else uses, but the important thing is that he knows them when he sees them. Like pornagraphy. (And that, kittens, is how one links Teletubbies and pornagraphy.)

Tune in next week when Secretary Perry learns that the Department of the Interior isn't actually regulating your household furniture.
 

BigDH01

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Giving him the benefit of the doubt here. It may be far more than just repeating words he said. He might do a really good job.

If only I could count the number of times I've been on a hiring committee where someone wanted to give the idiotic and woefully unprepared candidate the job because 'hang on, he might do a really good job.'

Oh wait, I can, that number is zero because the premise is stupid.
 
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feralkid

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Strange how we survived without it until Carter, eh?


You are forgetting Perry's other qualifications, like being able to name all the Teletubbies. Sure, maybe they aren't the same names everyone else uses, but the important thing is that he knows them when he sees them. Like pornagraphy. (And that, kittens, is how one links Teletubbies and pornagraphy.)

Tune in next week when Secretary Perry learns that the Department of the Interior isn't actually regulating your household furniture.



Pornagraphy?


Is that like dirty pictures on farms with tractors and stuff?


(edit) Seriously, don't google it.



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momeNt

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If only I could count the number of times I've been on a hiring committee where someone wanted to give the idiotic and woefully unprepared candidate the job because 'hang on, he might do a really good job.'

Oh wait, I can, that number is zero because the premise is stupid.

So you are saying you have difficulty in identifying talent in ways other than day 1 preparedness? Hotel and real estate barons believe that their key ingredient to success is to identify talent that others may miss. I think you might be a good case study for that.
 

Commodus

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So you are saying you have difficulty in identifying talent in ways other than day 1 preparedness? Hotel and real estate barons believe that their key ingredient to success is to identify talent that others may miss. I think you might be a good case study for that.

When Perry not only didn't understand what the DOE does but at one point wanted to abolish it... your argument is permanently invalid.
 
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SMOGZINN

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So you are saying you have difficulty in identifying talent in ways other than day 1 preparedness? Hotel and real estate barons believe that their key ingredient to success is to identify talent that others may miss. I think you might be a good case study for that.

For the jobs 'Protect our nuclear arsenal' and 'make sure nuclear powerplants don't meltdown' day 1 preparedness is pretty important.
 
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Phokus

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Personally i think someone who majored in Animal Husbandry and forgot that the DOE existed is obviously more qualified than some egghead Nobel Prize winning PhD Physicist, is something a Trump supporter would think.
 
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werepossum

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It had preceding civilian agencies in it's various areas of responsibility. So I'm not sure if the argument is that people want to "get rid of it" but really just effectively call it something else or what.
Honestly I don't think it's either. I think it's just a stand-in to simplify downsizing government by calling for the elimination of sizable, recognizable chunks. I seriously doubt that calls for the DOE's elimination really consider all its many duties and how many are truly worth doing. Nonetheless, the DOE could easily be eliminated, we just wouldn't realize anything near the savings its budget would suggest.

Pornagraphy?


Is that like dirty pictures on farms with tractors and stuff?


(edit) Seriously, don't google it.
lol Appreciate the warning.
 

BigDH01

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So you are saying you have difficulty in identifying talent in ways other than day 1 preparedness? Hotel and real estate barons believe that their key ingredient to success is to identify talent that others may miss. I think you might be a good case study for that.

I identify talent using a measurement of general competence, and general understanding of my organization's purpose/existence. If you can't demonstrate either of those things, only a dumbass or person in your debt will hire you. Which do you think Trump is?
 
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werepossum

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For the jobs 'Protect our nuclear arsenal' and 'make sure nuclear powerplants don't meltdown' day 1 preparedness is pretty important.
You, sirrah, are forgetting Perry's impressive ability to stand quietly in the corner without touching anything expensive. That and his ability to hold his wife's purse while she is trying on clothes are his most valuable job skills.
 
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werepossum

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I really, really do not like Rick Perry. I am fine with proposing that some government departments be eliminated, but that carries an obligation to be able to make cogent arguments about why, which functions must remain, which departments will take over those functions, and course, remembering the department's name.
 
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