Richland & Kabini rumours

[inf64]

Or you can get HyperTX3 for 20$ on newegg? It's always some reason not to buy AMD with you... Sure,why not buy a WC setup to OC lowly Athlon that costs 65 euros? Wait it's unlocked,let's try LN2? :awe:

PS In the link I provided it's competitive versus OCed i3 3220,not stock. To OC i3 you need a better mobo that allows you to use Turbo multipliers,to OC 750K you don't.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

It does ~4.5Ghz on air cooling with vcore bump . And when OCed it's more than competitive .

Spent awhile digesting those links and the article. Things certainly just got complicated. The 750K is a little slower in CPU bound games, but when GPU limited it keeps up with the G870. I think (my own personal opinion) that the margin is close enough where I'll have to give the nod to AMD for better platform features. Potential overclocking, completely modern CPU instruction set (Pentium/Celeron are still limited to SSE4.2) and more SATA3 ports (assuming H61/B75). If you plan on upgrading (i.e. only changing CPU and not change CPU/MB/RAM anyway) then the nod goes to Intel as you can drop in an i5 in the future.

The real question here is how much performance you lose, if you pair a 750K with a real budget board, slower RAM and lower performance GPU...

For a general purpose budget PC with a discrete GFX card the 750K can actually make sense... welcome back AMD...

(For a general purpose non-gaming PC, I still think an Intel CPU would be a better choice though)

Edit; Forgot. With that unlocked multiplier, it should be a small matter to take that 750K to 5800K (essentially what the 750K is minus the iGPU) performance. And Anands bench section has both the 5800K and a G850...

here is the link...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=404

I'll let you judge for yourselves...

 

[ShintaiDK]

No, I'm afraid not.

Yes I know.

"Fjernlager" means remote warehouse. And since its an internet shop its the prefered method. They own the remote warehouse.

So its in stock and you would get it next day with the parcel service. (Or have it delivered for pickup in one of the "shops".

The "shops" are selvservice shops thats basicly nothing but a PC Kiosk for ordering from the remote warehouse.
http://www.proshop.dk/Om-Proshop/Om-butikken.htm

It just means the Danish distributor (dunno who proshop uses though) has it in stock... but you're right it could be very far away...

The warehouse is Proshops own.
http://www.logimatic.dk/media/Case_Proshop_dk.pdf

 

[Haserath]

It does ~4.5Ghz on air cooling with vcore bump . And when OCed it's more than competitive .

Spend more on cooling, more on psu(maybe), and more on power. Win/win/win huh?

You can't win with AMD these days.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

The warehouse is Proshops own.
http://www.logimatic.dk/media/Case_Proshop_dk.pdf

Very slick...

Unfortunately there isn't a decent ITshop "Syd for Køge... "

 

[ShintaiDK]

Very slick...

Unfortunately there isn't a decent ITshop "Syd for Køge... "

There isnt anything south of Køge. Its "udkantsdanmark" from there on

 

[Insert_Nickname]

There isnt anything south of Køge. Its "udkantsdanmark" from there on

At least the postal system still works. Sometimes. It can be hit-and-miss. Otherwise I would properly have gone ballistic...

 

[inf64]

Spend more on cooling, more on psu(maybe), and more on power. Win/win/win huh?

You can't win with AMD these days.

More on cooling? No need to. But with 20$ cooler you can take it to 4.5+Ghz instead of 4.1-4.2Ghz. User's choice.
More on PSU? Negative. Check the link I have. 750K draws 70-80W more than i3/pentium when all are OCed(and for 750K they used VCore bump)
More on power?Yes,but only in case of constant full load. Idle and low load usage are basically similar. If you calculate how much money that is on prolonged period of ownership time you will end up with something like ~5 years to make a noticeable difference. Hence irrelevant on low power chips with average low usage scenario.

Yep, it's win/win/lose. Not bad at all.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You also voided warranty with that OC didnt you? Plus no garantee for your data integrity.

 

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the forums Hans de Vries :thumbsup:

 

[inf64]

You also voided warranty with that OC didnt you? Plus no garantee for your data integrity.

Sure ,in one of maybe 10K chips that die due to OC,you do void guarantee. I'll take those odds. And those who OC know how to check for stability . It's called OCCT/prime/IBT and it's free for download.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Sure ,in one of maybe 10K chips that die due to OC,you do void guarantee. I'll take those odds. And those who OC know how to check for stability . It's called OCCT/prime/IBT and it's free for download.

That doesnt garantee stability. And the "stable" OC today might not be "stable" tomorrow.

 

[inf64]

That doesnt garantee stability. And the "stable" OC today might not be "stable" tomorrow.

Funny how it did so in the past. Now rules are changed? Right.
No OC is guaranteed. Tell that to every other SB/IB user who run their K CPUs 20+% over stock, happily .

 

[ShintaiDK]

Funny how it did so in the past. Now rules are changed? Right.
No OC is guaranteed. Tell that to every other SB/IB user who run their K CPUs 20+% over stock, happily .

It did in the past? Since when?

 

[inf64]

Since A64 launched and users started to run their CPUs way out of spec. Think 20-30+%. Since then we have stability tests that we have used to verify stability. AMD and intel use similar tools(although more advanced) to verify error free silicon. But you know all of this don't you. I wonder why redundant inquires though?

PS Until recently i had A64 3200+ (bought it second hand) that ran 24/7 at 2.8Ghz on air cooler. I used it as internet/office machine. Flawless operation almost 8 years after CPU had launched. It ran 3d games before that,in its time when the GPU in machine was able to do it. I even ran BOINC on it with zero issues. Think about it,launch date of Venice core was 2005 . Same goes for C2D aka Conroe. Many users STILL run these cores at way higher clocks than intel did when they launched the core back in 2006.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Since A64 launched and users started to run their CPUs way out of spec. Think 20-30+%. Since then we have stability tests that we have used to verify stability. AMD and intel use similar tools(although more advanced) to verify error free silicon. But you know all of this don't you. I wonder why redundant inquires though?

Lulz...I cant take you serious. Not to mention Linpack, Prime95, OCCT are all FP apps for example.

Its always nice to tell about all those who havent had problems or realized it. Its abit like the all chips can do 4.5Ghz crowd.

 

[inf64]

Whatever. You keep living in your world,I'll live in reality .

 

[AtenRa]

He wouldn't talk about stability, degradation and voiding the warranty if Intel Pentium and Core i3 were unlocked, but no harm done OCing when we have a Core i5 3570K or Core i7 3770K

 

[NTMBK]

He wouldn't talk about stability, degradation and voiding the warranty if Intel Pentium and Core i3 were unlocked, but no harm done OCing when we have a Core i5 3570K or Core i7 3770K

It's a valid concern- not everybody wants to overclock, often with good reason. For those that are willing to, I would always recommend a Trinity over a Pentium. But if they only want stock speeds the recommendation is reversed for me (unless they want to game on the integrated graphics).

 

[AtenRa]

It's a valid concern- not everybody wants to overclock, often with good reason. For those that are willing to, I would always recommend a Trinity over a Pentium. But if they only want stock speeds the recommendation is reversed for me (unless they want to game on the integrated graphics).

Nobody said that everyone OverClocks and we (overclockers) know we are the minority, but a lot, if not the majority, of AT users do.

 

[ShintaiDK]

He wouldn't talk about stability, degradation and voiding the warranty if Intel Pentium and Core i3 were unlocked, but no harm done OCing when we have a Core i5 3570K or Core i7 3770K

You might note I dont overclock myself for the same reason. I would never recommend anyone to overclock unless the data and hardware was of no importance. For Intel tho, unlike AMD, you can buy the warranty to cover overclocking of an unlocked CPU. But that doesnt save the data.

 

[AtenRa]

You might note I dont overclock myself for the same reason. I would never recommend anyone to overclock unless the data and hardware was of no importance. For Intel tho, unlike AMD, you can buy the warranty to cover overclocking of an unlocked CPU. But that doesnt save the data.

I dont recommend OC for business use, but for home and Gaming, OC is a must

 

[Abwx]

You might note I dont overclock myself

No , of course , since it would defeat your usual non sensical
trolling arguments..:biggrin:

MiniITX
CPU - i5 3570K
Board - Intel DH77DF
SSD - Intel 320 300GB
Memory - G.Skill Ares 2x8GB 1600Mhz
Case - Sugo SG08B with 600W PSU
GPU - Zotac GTX 680 2GB

 

[SiliconWars]

You might note I dont overclock myself for the same reason. I would never recommend anyone to overclock unless the data and hardware was of no importance. For Intel tho, unlike AMD, you can buy the warranty to cover overclocking of an unlocked CPU. But that doesnt save the data.

And yet you bought a K series cpu? Maybe you're worried that your 680 will fail on you and at least you'll have the HD 4000 to fall back on?

 

[ShintaiDK]

And yet you bought a K series cpu? Maybe you're worried that your 680 will fail on you and at least you'll have the HD 4000 to fall back on?

Maybe the non K wasnt in stock the day of purchase...

No , of course , since it would defeat your usual non sensical
trolling arguments..:biggrin:

And you consider your own post what?