Ricers and Ricer Killers, definitions?

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TraumaRN

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'NAAAAAAWWWWSSS! So fast, the floorboards fall out!'

I remember watching a director's commentary on the first movie. They generally did the 'race' scenes at 60-70mph with stunt drivers if I remember correctly and all the blurry scenery is just CGI

EDIT: And to think of it my car in my sig is a rice beater...retard with a 1990ish Honda Civic with a fartcan muffler and I'm pretty sure nothing else tried to race me. Wanted me to rev my engine...well I cant when I'm stopped the electric motor overrides the gas when stopped so it won't rev he laughed at that...He wasn't laughing so hard when I demolished him off the line and beat him to the next light by about 3 seconds. And to be fair my car isn't exactly 'quick'
 
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jlee

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Haha..every once in a while I will throw it in for entertainment value. :D

Just wondering what a good definition of each was?


Like I know people who have 90HP Civics who deck them out to look fast are ricers but can domestic cars also be ricers?

Also, Ricer killers, high end performance cars such as corvettes and V8 mustangs would be considered killers but what about high end V6s and supped up 4 cylinders?

Anyway, to answer your question...'rice' is basically an 'all show, no go' car. The term 'rice killer' is new to me, but here you go - http://www.ricekiller.com/ - should answer that question. I'm going to have to join their forum now. :p
 

MotF Bane

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I did actually learn something from this thread. I always thought rice was entirely about Asian rice-eating stereotypes, I never knew it was an acronym.
 

JJ650

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I did actually learn something from this thread. I always thought rice was entirely about Asian rice-eating stereotypes, I never knew it was an acronym.

QFT


My thoughts about rice were the all show and no go cars (fart cans, ridiculous spoilers, etc) which can come in both Asian and domestic flavors.

Then you have the tuners. These are the folks who actually put some thought into the modifications and get actual improved (not implied) performance.

As far as the Mostest Fastest and Mostest Furiousnessed....the concept was to convery they were all tuners. But since Hollywood had its hands in the mix, they failed horribly at how it all really works. Exploding floor boards, too much tuning in a street race (on the fly mind you) with a laptop and big flashy "WARNING" crap.
It turned most if it into rice, and practically made every pubescent punk that owned a Civic or some other econobox think they owned a legitimate race car.

I bet stock in the HPI, AEM 'performance' and other quasi performance parts manufacturers shot up in the weeks following the first release of that god awful series of movies.
 

AMCRambler

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I always thought a Ricer was the guy who does the craptacular modification to the car. A rice killer, would be anything not japanese that some kid in his Civic is going to pull up on, rev at, and then get smoked by off the line. I'd say something like a Taurus Sho, Contour SVT, Chevy Impala SS, Passat W8, Grand Prix GTP, Mercury Marauder, etc. A sleeper basically.

The riced out car itself would be called a rice burner or rice mobile.
 

kornphlake

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By the numbers a Jeep Grand Cherokee would kill most vehicles, does that make it a rice killer?
 

CurseTheSky

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My own definition:

Ricer = a car, generally cheap, that's "souped up" to look or perform (if only one performance aspect is targeted, i.e. engine but not brakes / suspension) like something that it's not. A 3000GT VR4, Cobalt SS, or a Civic / Sentra / Integra / etc. that's been completely redone (perhaps stupidly) with performance in mind is not a ricer, in my opinion. A Civic / Sentra / Integra / Cavalier / Sunfire / Eclipse / etc. with a body kit, loud exhaust, huge spoiler, decals, and nothing else is a ricer.

A ricer killer is any performance car, usually muscle-oriented, that puts the said cars above to shame, one way or another. Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Corvettes, etc. Generally the people you see pulling up along side a ricer, smiling for a second, and then blowing by with a rumbling exhaust note.

Even though it goes against my own definition, I sometimes call cars that follow the "ricer" trend ricers as well - huge spoilers, gargantuan exhaust tips, tacky interior accessories, gaudy paint jobs, etc. It may be a 10-second car, but if it still looks the part, it gets named accordingly.
 
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zerocool84

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I'm not defending anyone and certainly would never defend fleabag but the cars in the Fast and Furious movies that were all tricked out were real cars that were really modified specifically from the movie and were/are fast. People have bought them. If I remember the Malcom in the Middle kid bought one of them.
 

canadageek

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I'm not defending anyone and certainly would never defend fleabag but the cars in the Fast and Furious movies that were all tricked out were real cars that were really modified specifically from the movie and were/are fast. People have bought them. If I remember the Malcom in the Middle kid bought one of them.

That doesn't change the fact that EVERY CAR looked ridiculous.
 

exdeath

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So what are we suppose to call vehicles from fast and the furious?

Depends on the car.

Some of those cars are real nice and fast cars that were borrowed from owners IRL for the film (particularly in the second and third ones).

Most of them are blatant rice. There were only three nice cars in the first movie that I can recall: a Ferrari, a Dodge, and a Toyota with a semi-ricey paint job. All were real cars, though their capabilities were grossly exaggerated (that Supra was 400-500 HP IRL if I recall, even though it was portrayed as a 900+ HP car in the movie). Even when they start with decent cars, they still repaint them and throw fake crap on top of the real mods because the real mods aren't flashy enough.

The rest was all total BS; in fact I remember a story that someone bought that green Eclipse off Ebay or something and thought it was a fast car, and it ran a 16 or something (even still had the heavy safety cage complete with mount for camera dolly).

Rice and fast aren't mutually exclusive, there can be fast rice, someone with more money than brains who mods under the hood but doesn't have enough money to buy a sense of taste for the rest of the car. I'll refrain from showing examples of fast rice, because usually it involves doing gross things to nice cars and makes me want to hang myself.

Some rice killers:

Rice killer 1

Rice killer 2

Rice killer 3

Fast cars aren't hard to spot if you know what you are looking for. Ricers don't have things like roll cages and sumped fuel tanks with external fuel pumps or things like that because they don't look cool and don't make the car faster or sound different (ricers don't "waste" money on support mods that don't do anything by themselves and leave you with nothing to show for). Someone who would rather have spent the money on more go fast parts *HAD* to put those things there because they NEEDED them either to support the power or because they went too fast on the track. It's like when you see a unassuming car roll up on Pinks and it has a parachute bracket; you know it's seen 150 MPH in the 1/4. And even then if they do have all that stuff, and only have 195 all season tires on the front or rear drive wheels, then it still doesn't matter how much power they are making even if it's not rice.

Though don't underestimate the stupidity and wealth of ricers; I can't find that pic right now of a car with the huge expensive hand tig welded FMIC... with the air filter clamped to the inlet.

PS 1 more rice killer
 
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exdeath

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I did actually learn something from this thread. I always thought rice was entirely about Asian rice-eating stereotypes, I never knew it was an acronym.

The term "rice/ricer" came to be initially because the trend originated with imported asian economy cars. And even then it wasn't a race or culture thing, it was more the fact that these asian cars afflicted with such mistreatment mostly had sub 2 liter 50-75 HP engines that were so weak they probably ran off rice, wood chips, paper pulp, or anything other than gasoline that was as cheap and plentiful as the car.

At least that is how I used it when I came up with it on my own before I knew calling cars "rice" was common.

The term "rice BURNER" is specifically applied to Japanese sport bikes and something to do with rice alcohol.
 
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Gillbot

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Ricer = Shitty cars.

Ricer killer = Not shitty cars.

IMHO, yes, domestics can be "ricers" too. To me, the term ricer implies one who puts inappropriate badging on a car such as a GT-R badge on a mustang or makes visual mods to "look fast" without performing any actual modifications for power gain.

So what are we suppose to call vehicles from fast and the furious?
this:

I disagree considering that they were cosmetically modified AND were fast.
They were NOT fast. They were total crap. They had quite a few of them on a car show tour and even their owners conceded they were garbage in the performance department.
 

Elfear

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Depends on the car.

Some rice killers:

Rice killer 1

Rice killer 2

Rice killer 3

That 2nd vid was killer. Looked like Grandma was pulling up to the line and then bam, lifts the front tires and is gone.

Reminds me of an 80's Suburban I saw at Rocky Mountain Raceway once. It was primer gray, lowered a bit, and ran 9's at a 7000+ft density altitude. Had a big flap on the top because the whole thing filled with tire smoke when he did his burnout. That's my kind of grocery getter.

I would consider this a Rice Killer too: Renault Espace F1
Fast forward to about the 2:57 mark.
 

Iron Woode

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That 2nd vid was killer. Looked like Grandma was pulling up to the line and then bam, lifts the front tires and is gone.

Reminds me of an 80's Suburban I saw at Rocky Mountain Raceway once. It was primer gray, lowered a bit, and ran 9's at a 7000+ft density altitude. Had a big flap on the top because the whole thing filled with tire smoke when he did his burnout. That's my kind of grocery getter.

I would consider this a Rice Killer too: Renault Espace F1
Fast forward to about the 2:57 mark.
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