Republicans in Arizona attempting mass voter fraud with the 2020 ballots.

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Dave_5k

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Weird. Foxnews.com has no coverage of the Arizona audit report.

Funny though, I recall them reporting on the progress of the audit numerous times. Don't their readers want to know the result?

I guess they just haven't heard about it yet. I'm sure they'll be right on it once they do.
Don't worry, the official release on Friday will be full of Fox-News worthy clips about "critical concerns" over 30,000+ ballots. Regardless of zero facts to support it.

And expect nary a mention that they in fact successfully identified exactly <zero> fraudulently or double cast ballots. But they will have "critical concerns" about there being thousands of people with the same name that cast multiple ballots across the state (gasp!) ~ and people that purportedly moved from their listed address.

But after nearly a year of claiming fraud, Trump and the Cyber Ninjas still haven't found a single actual case in Arizona of a double vote nor found even a single fraudulent ballot counted - that part will be completely left out of the report.

Not that any election is perfect - Arizona county and state election officials previously had found 182 potential election violations with 4 being charged (2D's and 2R's), but none of those resulted in a double vote actually being counted in official results.
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rommelrommel

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There is some validity to that. Accusations of impropriety were mentioned right in this thread, now it appears that they were unfounded.
Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election, pissing away time and money on recounts won't affect the result, Joe won, it's time to move on.
If evidence of actual large scale fraud was proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that would be grounds for changing election laws and sending people to jail, but it still wouldn't put Trump in office. By the time it all wound through the courts, Joe would be in the old presidents home.

That’s not the point. They’re trying to use the original (rightful and well founded imo) concerns that Cyber Ninjas would “find the votes” so to speak that would show that Trump won. Now that they didn’t, the election fraud true believers want to appropriate the the accusation that Cyber Ninjas are simply incompetent and failed to detect the fraud.

The belief in the fraud is religious in nature. Any facts have to fit the belief in the fraud rather than the other way around.
 

trenchfoot

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Seems to me the Repubs want to keep these audits going well into the 2022 mid-terms thinking it will rile up their shrinking numbers enough to beat out the usual lackluster Dem turnout during the midterms.

Repubs have declared all out war against Our Constitution and everyone else should understand this and react accordingly at the polls. The more the Repubs attempt to take away our rights the more tightly and preciously we should hang on to them.
 

woolfe9998

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That’s not the point. They’re trying to use the original (rightful and well founded imo) concerns that Cyber Ninjas would “find the votes” so to speak that would show that Trump won. Now that they didn’t, the election fraud true believers want to appropriate the the accusation that Cyber Ninjas are simply incompetent and failed to detect the fraud.

The belief in the fraud is religious in nature. Any facts have to fit the belief in the fraud rather than the other way around.

Quoted for truth, with key emphasis added.
 

trenchfoot

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Don't worry, the official release on Friday will be full of Fox-News worthy clips about "critical concerns" over 30,000+ ballots. Regardless of zero facts to support it.

And expect nary a mention that they in fact successfully identified exactly <zero> fraudulently or double cast ballots. But they will have "critical concerns" about there being thousands of people with the same name that cast multiple ballots across the state (gasp!) ~ and people that purportedly moved from their listed address.

But after nearly a year of claiming fraud, Trump and the Cyber Ninjas still haven't found a single actual case in Arizona of a double vote nor found even a single fraudulent ballot counted - that part will be completely left out of the report.

Not that any election is perfect - Arizona county and state election officials previously had found 182 potential election violations with 4 being charged (2D's and 2R's), but none of those resulted in a double vote actually being counted in official results.
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Speaks volumes about how secure our system is despite the Repub's efforts at casting doubt and suspicion on the electoral process while they are attempting to dismantle those very safeguards in order to cheat their way to victory. Sadly, it's all they've got left to rely on.
 
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VRAMdemon

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I wouldn't worry about that.

What I would worry about is that the point of this audit was to delegitimize the democratic process so it's easier to throw out election results they don't like in the future.

Yes ... And lots of big money will be thrown at this


This "audit" is accomplishing what Republicans want – normalizing such audits for future elections.

There was never a chance that any of this was going to overturn the 2020 election. The goal here is to make such audits seem normal and non-threatening. The outcome of the Arizona audit helps with that – see how ridiculous it was how big a deal the Democrats made out of it?

And in 2024 they’ll be ready before the voting starts to vote suppress and tactically launch “audits” immediately after election day so that they can reverse enough votes before the results are certified.
 
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Hail The Brain Slug

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This "audit" is accomplishing what Republicans want – normalizing such audits for future elections.

This is the very, very unfortunate part. They'll go "SEE? Now we know Biden is a legitimate president. Don't you feel better that we're conceding now? We should do this every election!"
 
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fskimospy

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This is the very, very unfortunate part. They'll go "SEE? Now we know Biden is a legitimate president. Don't you feel better that we're conceding now? We should do this every election!"
That's very optimistic of you. I think the more likely answer by far is they will continue to say the election was fraudulent even after their own bullshit audit said otherwise.
 
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Hail The Brain Slug

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That's very optimistic of you. I think the more likely answer by far is they will continue to say the election was fraudulent even after their own bullshit audit said otherwise.

Well, until the official announcement and the "news" campaign around it we won't really know. What time today is it supposed to be made official?
 

dullard

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I was referring to the Republicans reaction to the audit results.
Well the official Republican reaction is here (since Trump is all that matters to them):

Huge findings in Arizona! However, the Fake News Media is already trying to “call it” again for Biden before actually looking at the facts—just like they did in November! The audit has uncovered significant and undeniable evidence of FRAUD! Until we know how and why this happened, our Elections will never be secure. This is a major criminal event and should be investigated by the Attorney General immediately. The Senate’s final report will be released today at 4:00PM ET. I have heard it is far different than that being reported by the Fake News Media.
 

woolfe9998

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Don't worry, the official release on Friday will be full of Fox-News worthy clips about "critical concerns" over 30,000+ ballots. Regardless of zero facts to support it.

And expect nary a mention that they in fact successfully identified exactly <zero> fraudulently or double cast ballots. But they will have "critical concerns" about there being thousands of people with the same name that cast multiple ballots across the state (gasp!) ~ and people that purportedly moved from their listed address.

But after nearly a year of claiming fraud, Trump and the Cyber Ninjas still haven't found a single actual case in Arizona of a double vote nor found even a single fraudulent ballot counted - that part will be completely left out of the report.

Not that any election is perfect - Arizona county and state election officials previously had found 182 potential election violations with 4 being charged (2D's and 2R's), but none of those resulted in a double vote actually being counted in official results.
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You're probably right that they are just taking time to figure out how to spin this. But I note that even now, hours later, it is STILL not on their website, even though AFAIK every other major national news outlet has covered it.
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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Such a massive pile of bullshit. The leaked docs don't say "30,000 votes for biden are in need of critical review due to our findings"

I would bet the votes that had "critical anomalies" were split pretty evenly. However the paper totally leaves that out.

Also most/all of the "critical anomalies" are nothingburgers.
 
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UNCjigga

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Bullshit. The entire audit, start to finish, was improper. It was a clown show by the fascist filth who make up the Republican Party.

By the audit standards in AZ, PA and TX, I'm really disappointed that Kentucky Democrats haven't demanded an audit of the election results in that state, demanding access to "all the registered voter data" and actual ballots, machines used (if any) and, oh, all done by an audit firm of their choosing with Hunter Biden in charge.
 
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emperus

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I think the DOJ and the House had a large hand in how this report turned out. It's one thing to play with Republicans in the Arizona, but another thing to play with The House or DOJ which has subpoena power and the ability to review all the findings "you say you found".
 
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By the audit standards in AZ, PA and TX, I'm really disappointed that Kentucky Democrats haven't demanded an audit of the election results in that state, demanding access to "all the registered voter data" and actual ballots, machines used (if any) and, oh, all done by an audit firm of their choosing with Hunter Biden in charge.

There are some genuine irregularities there. Not imaginary ones.
 

sportage

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It’s obvious that they, and Fox, are tossing anything and everything at the wall to see what sticks. So far, nothing has stuck to their wall. For Fox, they tossed Afghanistan at their wall and that didn’t stick. How do we know? Because Fox rapidly moved on to the border. And as border immigrants are processed then sent home, the border outrage will peter out and not stick and Fox will try tossing still something else. Eventually fox has no option but to revert back to Hillary’s missing emails. So don’t expect Fox to bring up the Arizona ninja audit because nothing will stick there. Fox may toss Donald Trump’s “denial“ of the ninja audit result, but I doubt even that. That would be dangerous territory for Fox because it hints of another Trump failure and Fox wouldn’t want to upset Donald Trump with suggestions of another Trump failure.
 

hal2kilo

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You're probably right that they are just taking time to figure out how to spin this. But I note that even now, hours later, it is STILL not on their website, even though AFAIK every other major national news outlet has covered it.
It's the Haitian refugee border crisis 24/7, they've got just about everything they can out of the Afghan bugout fiasco, so, no time for AZ audit news.
 

UNCjigga

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It's the Haitian refugee border crisis 24/7, they've got just about everything they can out of the Afghan bugout fiasco, so, no time for AZ audit news.
CNN: "The Bridge in Texas has been cleared of migrants..all have been moved to processing centers"
FOX: "Where is Biden hiding those Haitian rapists???"
 

hal2kilo

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CNN: "The Bridge in Texas has been cleared of migrants..all have been moved to processing centers"
FOX: "Where is Biden hiding those Haitian rapists???"
Funny, I was about to add that Fox is showing that ICE basically cleared out everybody from under the bridge, but do carry on Fox.
 

woolfe9998

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It's the Haitian refugee border crisis 24/7, they've got just about everything they can out of the Afghan bugout fiasco, so, no time for AZ audit news.

Yes of course, and on all those other days, the days when they were reporting about how important this "audit" was and how unreasonable it was for democrats to try to "obstruct" it, those must have been slower news days.

Update: 2:22 PST on the clock and foxnews.com still has no reporting on this. Come on. How long does it take to figure out how to lie about the report?
 
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