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Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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The Democrats didn't shutdown the government so hypocrisy not found.
You've forgotten how they chastised the "R's" for their stance on not approving the budget based upon policy differences then turn around and do the very same thing which I think is both relevant and hypocritical.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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Listen to the speech from March when the R's were dragging their feet on approving the CR. I still haven't located the one where he's very blunt laying the possibility of a shutdown blame at the R's feet. I saw him in an interview the other day, I think it was on NBC, and they confronted him plus they had the clip in question as he danced around justifying the differences between then and now.

They've just played right into the administrations hand's and when the pain really comes they need to look in the mirror before pointing fingers. Neither party is doing a great job managing the country right now.

 
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nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Listen to the speech from March when the R's were dragging their feet on approving the CR. I still haven't located the one where he's very blunt laying the possibility of a shutdown blame at the R's feet. I saw him in an interview the other day, I think it was on NBC, and they confronted him plus they had the clip in question as he danced around justifying the differences between then and now.

They've just played right into the administrations hand's and when the pain really comes they need to look in the mirror before pointing fingers. Neither party is doing a great job managing the country right now.

I would just like to say, courteously, you can shove your "both sides" nonsense up your arse sideways.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You've forgotten how they chastised the "R's" for their stance on not approving the budget based upon policy differences then turn around and do the very same thing which I think is both relevant and hypocritical.
The policy difference here is the executive no longer following the law.

This is not complicated. In fact, this is resisting a dictatorship. You might want to join!
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Listen to the speech from March when the R's were dragging their feet on approving the CR. I still haven't located the one where he's very blunt laying the possibility of a shutdown blame at the R's feet. I saw him in an interview the other day, I think it was on NBC, and they confronted him plus they had the clip in question as he danced around justifying the differences between then and now.

They've just played right into the administrations hand's and when the pain really comes they need to look in the mirror before pointing fingers. Neither party is doing a great job managing the country right now.

Schumer went along with the Republicans in March because, at that time, it appeared that a shutdown was worse than allowing the CR. Subsequent events have shown that Schumer was wrong in his March assessment. With Trump's illegal rescissions over the summer, it is clear that the rule of law has little meaning to Republicans and the bad stuff Schumer thought would happen during a shutdown happened anyway. There is no reason to help the Republicans pass a bill for which the Democrats had no say in crafting. If the Republicans would rather negotiate with the Democrats than pass their own bill without the Democrats, okay, but the Republicans will have to offer the Democrats something in return. What the Democrats are asking for is to restore funding for the ACA. The "clean" CR isn't really clean as the Republicans used an illegal rescission to cut ACA funding and the so called clean CR carries those rescissions forward. If the price the Democrats are asking is too high for the Republicans, the Republicans can coax their own members into passing the CR without the Democrats.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Listen to the speech from March when the R's were dragging their feet on approving the CR. I still haven't located the one where he's very blunt laying the possibility of a shutdown blame at the R's feet. I saw him in an interview the other day, I think it was on NBC, and they confronted him plus they had the clip in question as he danced around justifying the differences between then and now.

They've just played right into the administrations hand's and when the pain really comes they need to look in the mirror before pointing fingers. Neither party is doing a great job managing the country right now.

Still haven't looked at the polling have you? Also how do you make a deal with parties that have already shown they won't be bound by the terms they agreed to previously?
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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It would be 100% illegal to withhold back pay. Even suggesting this a month out from an important election in Virginia signals these people have the political instincts of a dog turd on a hot sidewalk.


"You will be my bitch and you will like it!"

Cruelty is the point!

When are we going to do the same onto them with interest?? Oh that's right never because we're a bunch of wusses that should just let the bullies punch our faces at will!
 
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It would be 100% illegal to withhold back pay. Even suggesting this a month out from an important election in Virginia signals these people have the political instincts of a dog turd on a hot sidewalk.

Also the classic conservative thing: there is some new bullshit someone put into the world, and they happened to be a lawyer. We like their complete fantasy bullshit, so we're calling it a "new legal analysis" to try and launder it into a legitimate point of view.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Nov 16, 2006
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It would be 100% illegal to withhold back pay. Even suggesting this a month out from an important election in Virginia signals these people have the political instincts of a dog turd on a hot sidewalk.


- That's wild that he would openly say this. It's like Republicans have so deeply internalized Merc's law that they're not even capable of realizing that they will actually be held responsible for the actions they choose to take here.

Republican's have gotten so comfortable being the opposition party that they seem to have lost basically all of their actual leadership skills.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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- That's wild that he would openly say this. It's like Republicans have so deeply internalized Merc's law that they're not even capable of realizing that they will actually be held responsible for the actions they choose to take here.

Republican's have gotten so comfortable being the opposition party that they seem to have lost basically all of their actual leadership skills.
Don't need leadership skills when the country is willing to give you a trifecta every cycle or two no matter how psychotic you act. Abused spouse syndrome at the macro level.
 

evident

Lifer
Apr 5, 2005
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- That's wild that he would openly say this. It's like Republicans have so deeply internalized Merc's law that they're not even capable of realizing that they will actually be held responsible for the actions they choose to take here.

Republican's have gotten so comfortable being the opposition party that they seem to have lost basically all of their actual leadership skills.
They think they won't be held responsible... they may be right at the rate this country is going. Hopefully we're proven wrong this november and especially in 26.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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- That's wild that he would openly say this. It's like Republicans have so deeply internalized Merc's law that they're not even capable of realizing that they will actually be held responsible for the actions they choose to take here.

Republican's have gotten so comfortable being the opposition party that they seem to have lost basically all of their actual leadership skills.
I'm waiting for when they have the balls, to declare being a Democrat illegal.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Dec 10, 2005
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Reps in disarray.

You know it has to be bad if Politico is talking about the situation this way.

I saw one where a Republican senator is pushing for a law that would grant automatic 14 day CRs in the event of a shutdown, and if you think about it for more than 30 seconds, you'll realize it's a bad idea. A time bomb that people will surely use as an impetus to pass something and not let it go off? Laughing at the failure to learn from the great sequester.

Nevermind the issues of the executive doing whatever the fuck it wants with appropriated funds.
 
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K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I saw one where a Republican senator is pushing for a law that would grant automatic 14 day CRs in the event of a shutdown, and if you think about it for more than 30 seconds, you'll realize it's a bad idea. A time bomb that people will surely use as an impetus to pass something and not let it go off? Laughing at the failure to learn from the great sequester.

Nevermind the issues of the executive doing whatever the fuck it wants with appropriated funds.

Not beating the allegations that Republicans are comically inept at legislating anything that is not a tax cut.
 
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