Those guys would win, especially Gibson. They'd win by 1-2 points. If Scott Brown can win in MA, why couldn't they, especially in a border state?
if you think the 2024 California senate will be within 1-2 points I would love to make a bet with you and take all your money.
It's not going to be, but in an inflation environment, it could.
This board prohibits bets but if you want to meet offline I will give you VERY favorable odds.
We are in an inflation environment as we always are when corporations raise their prices to create it to help Republicans win. I give Gibson the odds it will rain frogs in Death Valley. It could happen now that it's been raining thanks again to Republicans not wanting to do anything about fossil fuel emissions.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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20-30 years ago, Rudy Gulianni won the NYC mayoral election against a black man. So you are wrong to say a black republican would still have won that mayoral election.
Why have 3 Democrats running concertly and only one Republican.
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There are other republicans running.
There are 27 candidates running in this jungle primary. The top two vote getters get to faceoff in the November election.
California Senate Race: Meet the candidates
U.S. Reps. Katie Porter, Adam Schiff and Barbara Lee — and Republican and former Los Angeles Dodger Steve Garvey, are among 27 candidates running to fill the California Senate seat once held by the late U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
Today, Giuliani would not win. A Black Republican won't win in NYC either unless drastic circumstances.
Muse
Lifer
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Dummy, blacks don't trust Republicans because they are a lot better than most at spotting phonies, something you wouldn't understand.Steve Garvey is leading.....
Told you Americans like athletes...
However, Dusty Baker and Dave Stewart, two of Garvey's black teammates did not endorse him...
Sad.
Black voters just don't trust Republicans, even their own teammates.
Two ex-Dodgers endorse Rep. Barbara Lee over former teammate Steve Garvey
Two ex-Los Angeles Dodgers opted to endorse Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) in California's Senate race over Republican Steve Garvey — their former teammate.www.washingtonexaminer.com
If John Franco or Al Leiter ran in NY or NJ, it sadly would probably be the same.
Drach
Golden Member
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The only thing he is leading is the republicvnt vote. Not a chance in hell of being elected. Add all 3 democrat percentages and you can guess the outcome. Oh and "Shut the fuck up Getty"
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MrSquished
Lifer
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I doubt it, a lot of us already voted. Its mail in, ballots have been sent out and returned already.
yea, it looks like Schiff running ads for Garvey worked out for him.
He takes out Porter in the primary and cruises to an easy victory in the general. I wonder if Schiff is even smart enough to realize he is being used?
The good thing is it saves a lot of money from an interparty fight, and frees it up for other more important races.
The cynical part of it is Schiff has already switched his campaign to fight against the dangerous MAGA republican Garvey. That is a bit much for even me. You were running ads for him just last week Schiff. We all know the outcome already. There are more important races to spend money on.
He takes out Porter in the primary and cruises to an easy victory in the general. I wonder if Schiff is even smart enough to realize he is being used?
The good thing is it saves a lot of money from an interparty fight, and frees it up for other more important races.
The cynical part of it is Schiff has already switched his campaign to fight against the dangerous MAGA republican Garvey. That is a bit much for even me. You were running ads for him just last week Schiff. We all know the outcome already. There are more important races to spend money on.
Zorba
Lifer
- Oct 22, 1999
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People could've chosen to not donate their money to an intra party fight. If 2 Dems are on the ticket, and they are both good Dems why would anyone donate to that battle? Now, even though it should be an easy win, there is still some possibility of a Republican getting that seat.
Further, having the Republican on the ballot will encourage Republican turnout, hurting Dems in down ballot contests.
that could hurt in my local contest.
But it is not even going to be close. It will be a complete blowout. 27% will be all Garvey gets in the general also.
Pens1566
Lifer
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I don't know, he might get an extra 1% from the other candidates. The trouble is that Schiff will get all of Porter/Lee and do it without even really trying. Hell, he'll probably add more than 27% just from that.
Zorba
Lifer
- Oct 22, 1999
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First numbers in. Schiff and then Garvey. Porter all way back at 15%
But at least won’t lose Porter in the house
But at least won’t lose Porter in the house
Drach
Golden Member
- Apr 24, 2022
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I am sad about losing porter but Schiff isn't that bad as a second choice.
Looking forward to seeing Katie in politics and hopefully a future senator .
at 48% votes counted:
Schiff: 33.2%
Garvey: 32.5%
Porter: 13.8%
. . .
If Schiff straight up wins the primary, he will stomp the general.
Schiff: 33.2%
Garvey: 32.5%
Porter: 13.8%
. . .
If Schiff straight up wins the primary, he will stomp the general.
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