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doubledeluxe

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I really don´t think they belong in office for even 10 years. I´d put 2 term limits on at least the senate. Maybe 3-4 on the House.
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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Every time his face is on TV my wife comments about how he looks like a turtle.

Fern
Taken a good look at Valerie Jarrett? She looks like one of the Mutant Ninja Turtles - and not a Teenage one. That is one butt ugly woman.
 

rudder

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Nov 9, 2000
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The question is really simple: Can he lead the Senate and pass legislation that is in the best interest of most Americans?

The real question is can he lead any worse than Harry Reid? Because I do not think Harry Reid was all too interested in working in the best interests of most Americans.
 

TheSlamma

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The real question is can he lead any worse than Harry Reid? Because I do not think Harry Reid was all too interested in working in the best interests of most Americans.
Which Americans are you talking about? human beings or persons? aka corportations
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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My biggest issue with him is that his reelection is reward for his scorched earth/ govt deadlock strategy.

Our economic recovery has been hamstrung by this, all for his power play. Billions of dollars lost, millions of jobs never created. We all have paid for his job.

What is the deterrence for the next politician? Nothing. Bitter partisanship is a winner.
 

Paul98

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My biggest issue with him is that his reelection is reward for his scorched earth/ govt deadlock strategy.

Our economic recovery has been hamstrung by this, all for his power play. Billions of dollars lost, millions of jobs never created. We all have paid for his job.

What is the deterrence for the next politician? Nothing. Bitter partisanship is a winner.

This is why we need to figure out a way to get much higher voter turnout. The highly partisans are good sized percentage of all people who vote right now. You get turnout up and you get lower percentage of those who vote to be highly partisan.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jan 26, 2000
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Aren´t there a few countries where it´s mandatory to vote?

I strongly object to that. In this country it's winner take all so effectively half the population has no say. Worse, both parties form an effective duopoly where no challengers with different ideas stand a chance at all. You will take what you are offered and those who make it to the national level place party above all. More of the same whether 90 or 35, because that's all you are allowed to have.
 

cubby1223

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My biggest issue with him is that his reelection is reward for his scorched earth/ govt deadlock strategy.

Our economic recovery has been hamstrung by this, all for his power play. Billions of dollars lost, millions of jobs never created. We all have paid for his job.

What is the deterrence for the next politician? Nothing. Bitter partisanship is a winner.

It's all a matter of perspective. The conservative commentator would say Reid was the one obstructing progress of the legislature by not placing legislation into the senate's agenda for which its votes might compromise the party's standing in these tight races. Remember, Reid and the Democrats have first choice as to what legislation will be discussed, the Republicans could only choose what to filibuster after the Democrats first throw away everything they choose to (and without the media condemnation).

Reid is a bitter partisan. Pelosi is a bitter partisan. Bitter partisanship won in '06 & '08 for the Dems. So don't for a minute project the illusion that bitter partisanship is something new entering into the Senate that hadn't existed during the past years of Democrat control, or that you were given a choice of non-bitter partisanship in the candidates of either major party.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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The real question is can he lead any worse than Harry Reid? .

To which the real answer would be, easily.

Say what you want about Harry Reid, he's not nearly as adept an obstruction artist, as pro outsourcing, or as willing to hold the country's best interests hostage over political dogma and brinkmanship, a la the Credit Rating fiasco. I think I'd take Harry Reid's dog over this GOP turtle for a leadership position. Pretty much every dog I've ever known has showed more morals and respect for duty than this fossil from Kentucky.
 

Bitek

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It's all a matter of perspective. The conservative commentator would say Reid was the one obstructing progress of the legislature by not placing legislation into the senate's agenda for which its votes might compromise the party's standing in these tight races. Remember, Reid and the Democrats have first choice as to what legislation will be discussed, the Republicans could only choose what to filibuster after the Democrats first throw away everything they choose to (and without the media condemnation).

Reid is a bitter partisan. Pelosi is a bitter partisan. Bitter partisanship won in '06 & '08 for the Dems. So don't for a minute project the illusion that bitter partisanship is something new entering into the Senate that hadn't existed during the past years of Democrat control, or that you were given a choice of non-bitter partisanship in the candidates of either major party.

Reid has obviously not helped his party. Nothing has gotten done since Obama's first term, and really first two years at that.

What did they get out of all of this? Some other pick up for Obama's legacy? I can't think of anything. It's been mostly floating from one crisis to the next, proposing some changes, and jack shit coming from it.

The thing is, Obama is still the lame duck he has been all second term. I don't see a big victory in repudiating the guy who is on his way out. Congress has to find a way to work or is going to be another incumbent bloodbath in two years (when the map will be much more blue)
 

bradley

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Jan 9, 2000
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Nothing has changed. The same two-headed snake is still swallowing its own tail.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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is it just me wondering if the democrats had 'won' tonight, there would have been a shit ton of new election related threads (probably one for every state or something) on first page of P and N?

As of now, I count three election results related threads and two of them were from whining liberals....
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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look at how young and energetic he is.

he really does have the right stuff to really make an impact on today's youth.

racist!

:hmm:

well, he does look like a turtle.
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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I love these election times when I get to watch two groups bicker and moan over what side of the same coin happens to face up when casually tossed in the air every couple of years.

Meanwhile no matter what side ends up facing up we end up with the same shitty impact to our lives.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I simply don't understand why we continue to allow these old fvcks to run this country anymore. They are on their way off the planet anyway it's like a control freak issue or something for them.

Get out of our way, thanks for leaving us a steaming pile of dung, please just move along.

Because the young fvcks obviously can't or won't do it. As demonstrated by the vote today the majority of the people do not agree with you. I think Harry Reid is also an old fvck.

I hope you enjoy your dung.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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What I don't understand is how can we have someone in Congress for 40, 50, or even 60 years. What the hell does a 90 years old know what young face today? It's ridiculous.

The only reason they are in office is because of the special interest groups they represent.

A better question would be Why don't the young vote in younger people if that is what they want?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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24 members of the Senate are 55 years old and younger. The youngest being 39.

40 members between the ages of 56 - 66.

That is 60 members that are 66 and younger.

Anyone less than IMO 35 doesn't have enough life experience to run a country or legislate.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Nothing has changed. The same two-headed snake is still swallowing its own tail.

A few things have changed. The Dems can no longer wield political clout by blindly screaming "Our opponents are racists and women haters." The voting populous isn't buying the argument anymore. Every hate tactic that can be left in the past is a good change.