Reports of an active shooter in San Bernadino

[Zeze]

Homogeneous society and island, what the US is not. If only there was a chart to show how many crimes have been prevented and innocent lives saved by guns.

I'm neutral when it comes to gun control. This rationalization for US being the world's top mass shooting country makes zero sense.

Homogeneous society and island, what? What does that have to do with anything vs US?

This excuse doesn't even begin to make sense. Can you elaborate?

 

[highland145]

Why? Because the law says so?

When you actually use a gun against a person you also need a valid reason in order to conform to the law. Pretty sure these assholes didn't and don't care about the law.

obummerlove doesn't care about that. Can you change your narrative for her?

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm neutral when it comes to gun control. This rationalization for US being the world's top mass shooting country makes zero sense.

Homogeneous society and island, what? What does that have to do with anything vs US?

This excuse doesn't even begin to make sense. Can you elaborate?

You do realize the bulk of those 350+ "mass shootings" are gang members killing gang members and innocent bystanders?

 

[StinkyPinky]

Homogeneous society and island, what the US is not. If only there was a chart to show how many crimes have been prevented and innocent lives saved by guns.

Which country is that? LEt's see...

Toronto - most diverse city in the world, whites are a minority
Sydney - highly diverse, just 60% born in Australia
London - very diverse. 60% white and lots of those whites are from eastern europe
Auckland - highly diverse, only 60% white, 25% asian
Paris - highly diverse

Americans still live in this dream world that only America is some melting pot of cultures. That's simply not true, and yet if we compare the homocide stats of Chicago to any of these cities, they are multiple times higher.

 

[LegendKiller]

Reports are that a Qatari 28yr old is one suspect, farouk Sayyid is another. Farouk worked with people at the holiday party. They were throwing pipe bombs out of the suv.

Airspace is closed down as FBI is doing over flights. They had 1 plane up, that one left and another came in.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Male and female killed in the SUV. Supposedly bombs around the building of the murder scene.

 

[mafia]

I'm neutral when it comes to gun control. This rationalization for US being the world's top mass shooting country makes zero sense.

Homogeneous society and island, what? What does that have to do with anything vs US?

This excuse doesn't even begin to make sense. Can you elaborate?

Three of the countries on that chart are islands. Australia, New Zealand, and UK. Islands have more control over their borders and trade. Its harder to smuggle in guns. Banning civilians from owning guns in the US will make citizens more vulnerable to crime and attack. Guns will be smuggled into the country via Mexican broder, just like drugs are. Drugs are banned yet I can obtain marijuana easier than alcohol. People in South American countries who can't own guns build massive fortresses around their houses to prevent burglaries. They live in fear. Fear of police, fear of criminals.

Homogeneous, what I ment is those countries have a high specific majority of similar people. Whether its similar in religion, race, or political views. This may be wrong but my theory is that US is such a diverse country that there is more likely disagreements which can produce violence. Right-wing vs left-wing, religions, ethnic stuff like Mexican gangs vs Cuban gangs vs Russian gangs, etc.

 

[highland145]

You do realize the bulk of those 350+ "mass shootings" are gang members killing gang members and innocent bystanders?

And almost no one cares.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/22/at-least-10-people-shot-at-new-orleans-park/

 

[LegendKiller]

And almost no one cares.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/22/at-least-10-people-shot-at-new-orleans-park/

Of course not. It is all about tearing down white males.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Homogenous society and Island, what the US is not. If only there was a chart to show how many crimes and innocent lives have been saved by guns.

If you think Europe is homogeneous then I don't know what to say. Hell, considering how often similar demographics in Europe (the whole world really) liked to fight I don't even think that matters. Frankly, that you brought it up comes off kinda fucked up (because obviously we need guns to protect ourselves from other demographics of people? WTF?).

If only we had accurate data on the real number of gun violence. But thanks to the NRA any study of guns beyond economic (and thus a tool to use to turn the screws to politicians) and how to make them "more badass" is actively fought. Even with the NRA explicitly trying to push guns as life saving devices and stamp out anything that says otherwise, it is very blatantly obvious which one outweighs the other in reality.

 

[highland145]

Which country is that? LEt's see...

Toronto - most diverse city in the world, whites are a minority
Sydney - highly diverse, just 60% born in Australia
London - very diverse. 60% white and lots of those whites are from eastern europe
Auckland - highly diverse, only 60% white, 25% asian
Paris - highly diverse
.

I understand that they are offering to take in a ton of Syrian refugees. Let's see how that works out.


Crap 2 open borders.

 

[Zeze]

Three of the countries on that chart are islands. Australia, New Zealand, and UK. Islands have more control over their borders and trade. Its harder to smuggle in guns. Banning civilians from owning guns in the US will make citizens more vulnerable to crime and attack. Guns will be smuggled into the country via Mexican broder, just like drugs are. Drugs are banned yet I can obtain marijuana easier than alcohol. People in South American countries who can't own guns build massive fortresses around their houses to prevent burglaries. They live in fear. Fear of police, fear of criminals.

Homogeneous, what I ment is those countries have a high specific majority of similar people. Whether its similar in religion, race, or political views. This may be wrong but my theory is that US is such a diverse country that there is more likely disagreements which can produce violence. Right-wing vs left-wing, religions, ethnic stuff like Mexican gangs vs Cuban gangs vs Russian gangs, etc.

Ah, I see your point. The isolated island border control does have its merit. I'm not entirely convinced on the homogeneity angle though.

Thanks for explaining.

 

[tynopik]

Which country is that? LEt's see...

Toronto - most diverse city in the world, whites are a minority
Sydney - highly diverse, just 60% born in Australia
London - very diverse. 60% white and lots of those whites are from eastern europe
Auckland - highly diverse, only 60% white, 25% asian
Paris - highly diverse

notice which minority you didn't list?

(pretty sure I've seen stats that the murder rate among US whites is comparable to the rate among European whites)

 

[LegendKiller]

notice which minority you didn't list?

(pretty sure I've seen stats that the murder rate among US whites is comparable to the rate among European whites)

Once you strip out suicides, gang members, and homicides related to other criminals, the background homicide rate isn't off base.

In fact, we'd get more results by requiring ignition interlock in every vehicle to prevent dwi deaths.

 

[highland145]

Of course not. It is all about tearing down white males.

True. Kill the beast that feeds you will always work....

And almost no one cares.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/22/at-least-10-people-shot-at-new-orleans-park/

notice which minority you didn't list?

(pretty sure I've seen stats that the murder rate among US whites is comparable to the rate among European whites)

see above. CNN missed it.

 

[mafia]

(because obviously we need guns to protect ourselves from other demographics of people? WTF?).

Yes we do. I want to be sure that my gay friends can protect themselves from bible nut Christians who want them dead. I want to be sure that my black friends can protect themselves from the KKK. I want to be sure that I can protect my atheist white ass from people who want to kill me because I am not following their faith.

 

[tynopik]

Yes we do. I want to be sure that my gay friends can protect themselves from bible nut Christians who want them dead. I want to be sure that my black friends can protect themselves from the KKK. I want to be sure that I can protect my atheist white ass from people who want to kill me because I am not following their faith.

or we could look at the real world and say women protecting themselves from abusive spouses/boyfriends

 

[highland145]

Yes we do. I want to be sure that my gay friends can protect themselves from bible nut Christians who want them dead. I want to be sure that my black friends can protect themselves from the KKK. I want to be sure that I can protect my atheist white ass from people who want to kill me because I am not following their faith.

+1. And you should. If you want to protect yourself and your loved ones, get some basic firearms training. Many aren't cut out for that so get them some bear spray. Do not be a victim. Pretty simple.

Your issue is about protection for you and your loved ones.... not race, color, religion, etc...


And you might have a fear issue...killer Christians, KKK, gay killer Christian rapists...just sayin.'

 

[mafia]

or we could look at the real world and say women protecting themselves from abusive spouses/boyfriends

Yes. Like I said before, if only there was a chart to show how many crimes have been prevented and lives saved because of guns. Most of which is undocumented obviously since it was "prevented". Until one is in a situation where your life is in danger will then one be able to understand why people have guns.

Most anti-gun people will frantically post these charts about how the US is #1 in this, and that. Yet they fail to think logically about the issue.

 

[mafia]

And you might have a fear issue...killer Christians, KKK, gay killer Christian rapists...just sayin.'

Believe me, I'd be the last person to have fear.

 

[highland145]

Believe me, I'd be the last person to have fear.

So it's your friends that live in fear? Same difference, post #93.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Its looking like someone named Sayed Farook and his brother

 

[DCal430]

So Syed was not an employee of the Regional Center, he was an employee of the State Board of Equalization. This makes no sense.

 

[DCal430]

Nevermind mind it was anther agency who had their party there.

 

[John Connor]

Looking like domestic terrorism.

STFU you liberal gun control assholes!