Remember that shutdown Trump WILL have?

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K1052

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Senate vote is stuck short of the 50 votes to proceed to the bill, which will need 60 votes to pass. Senate GOP saying it's not going to happen.
 

Indus

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He would always say:

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People got it in their heads..

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then why..

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Nuts I say!
 
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Engineer

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Seems that there is some kind of deal brewing in the Senate that has been taken to the house already. No details yet. Since Pence was in on the negotiations, safe to assume cheeto would sign it?

(what the hell am I thinking, he could do anything from signing it to wiping his ass with it).
 

Jhhnn

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This GOP house is nothing but subservient when it comes to Trump so that's not going to happen. The bill with $5B in wall money will fail in the Senate and the government will shut down until the new year when the next congress is seated. The Dems will pass a clean CR as the first order of business then the ball is back in the orange asshole's court.

Maybe the plan is that the new Congress can't be seated while the govt is shut down. GOP wins! /s
 

Jhhnn

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Seems that there is some kind of deal brewing in the Senate that has been taken to the house already. No details yet. Since Pence was in on the negotiations, safe to assume cheeto would sign it?

(what the hell am I thinking, he could do anything from signing it to wiping his ass with it).

Here's a deal- Congress could just tell Trump to go pound sand & override his veto. Dems would go along with it, obviously.

Maybe the GOP was insincere when they agreed to the original bill? Nah, couldn't be.
 

Jhhnn

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Turtle already said "no" about two dozen times. Certainly not going to do it for this with a Dem house majority incoming and 2020 around the corner.

Yeh, I don't see McConnell throwing down the gauntlet quite like that against Pelosi & her evil minions.
 

K1052

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House is in recess until noon tomorrow. Nothing doing on the senate end tonight, will be 24 hours notice before next senate vote. There will be a shutdown and the only question is how long.
 

fskimospy

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Third shutdown when one party controls the entire government... Not much more to say.

One thing the last two years has shown is that the modern GOP is utterly incapable of governance. Even when they control everything it’s chaos and dysfunction.

It’s not just trump. Sure he’s the worst of the lot but the congressional GOP is also absolutely nuts.
 

Jhhnn

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One thing the last two years has shown is that the modern GOP is utterly incapable of governance. Even when they control everything it’s chaos and dysfunction.

It’s not just trump. Sure he’s the worst of the lot but the congressional GOP is also absolutely nuts.

Their version of MAGA is to restore America back to the Capitalist Paradise like it was back before the trust busters, the 16th amendment, the New Deal & all that icky soshulism.
 

trenchfoot

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On a daily basis, Trump is proving true over and over again that well worn adage about stupid people being unable to realize that they're stupid.

So Trump is not going to get his $5 billion. Ergo, his supporters need to put their money where their mouths are and dig deep in their pockets to help their leader out by donating that $5 billion via the gofundme route esquared mentioned so their leader can start putting up that wall, well now morphed into that steel spiked fence of his and who knows what it will be if his supporters can't donate the additional multiple billions after the first $5 billion is thrown down the bottomless money pit.

And then his supporters need to caravan down to Mexico and demand that they get reimbursed for it all to make good on Trump's promise that Mexico will pay for it because obviously, Trump can't make Mexico pay for the wall all by himself.

Trump supporters, here's your chance to show your loyalty to Trump. He needs your cash and he needs it NOW.
 

cytg111

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So he gets go golfing or whatever, while is protection the SS goes without pay and he just manages to float and flush this one in time for the holidays.

https://qz.com/1504507/trumps-snap-food-stamps-cut-will-hit-his-single-white-base-the-hardest

Trump is synonymous with one giant middle finger to anything and everything that is not himself. Cutting food stamps.
Merry Fucking Christmas.

One angle is that this hits his base the hardest, so good, another angle is that his base dont know what the fuck they are doing and need help.
 

K1052

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So the plan apparently is...

Trump Plan to Win the Shutdown: A Noun, a Verb, and ‘Caravan’

One senior administration official described their shutdown comms strategy as a “caravan redo”—in reference to how Republicans spotlighted and demonized a group of migrants coming traveling to the U.S. southern border in the lead-up to the midterm elections. (The strategy failed to stop the blue wave that occurred.) The official said that Trump and the Republican Party would “draw contrasts” between their draconian immigration policies and the Democrats’ more inclusive approach.

According to two administration officials, the White House intends to send advisers and surrogates throughout the shutdown standoff out on national television to hammer Democrats and to accuse them of wanting illicit drugs, terror, and “trafficking” pouring over the southern border.

“I think the key for the president is to make it abundantly clear to the incoming [Democratic] majority in the House that he is going to blame them for each and every [migrant] caravan, for each and every rushing of the border, for the violence that occurs as a result of illegal immigration” Matt Schlapp, a prominent Trump surrogate and lobbyist whose wife Mercedes Schlapp is a senior White House official, told The Daily Beast. “The game is on. He is going to go after them… It is going to be their fault and they will own all of it.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-plan-to-win-the-shutdown-a-noun-a-verb-and-caravan


After they already tried this genius brain idea in the midterms and this happened:

Democrats smash Watergate record for House popular vote in midterms

While votes are still being tallied, Democratic House candidates currently hold an 8,805,130 vote lead over Republicans as of Monday morning. The Democrats' national margin of victory in House contests smashes the previous midterms record of 8.7 million votes in 1974, won just months after President Richard Nixon resigned from office in disgrace amid the Watergate scandal.

Of the more than 111 million votes cast in House races nationwide, Democrats took 53.1 percent — retaking control of the House of Representatives by flipping nearly 40 seats — while Republicans received 45.2 percent of the vote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...te-record-house-popular-vote-midterms-n940116