Remember that shutdown Trump WILL have?

[dank69]

I wonder what’s under the hood. Is the state guaranteeing them? Are there fees? Nothing is ever free. A bank isn’t going to loan money out from the goodness of its heart.

Good PR.

 

[Jhhnn]

I thought the same thing listening to him lately. He 's leaving things "open to interpretation". But, his word salads often do this. It's possible Trump grasps that he is in a no-win situation. Abandon the shut down, lose the base. Stay the course with the shut down, lose everyone else plus a percentage of the base. Either way, his chances to win in 2020 look dim -- he may be aware of this.

Has a thorough cost assessment phase for the Wall project been carried out?

Something that will result in proper estimates, quantity surveying of materials, feasibility studies, environmental impact, resourcing plans, Gantt charts, timeliness, etc., etc., that would normally be done for such a huge undertaking

What would be the cost for such a phase? Would getting such a phase underway be sufficient to both please the base and the talking heads on TV he listens to and sometimes takes orders from in the short term and also eventually result in an excuse to not do it when the huge price tag to the taxpayers is finally understood?

Or..Appoint a commission to study the issue, accept bids, draw up plans, work out how to get the land etc. with the plan that construction will start somewhere around say July 2021 (assuming the new sitting president still wants it). He and his base can complain all they want

None of that matters in post-truth Trumplandia.

 

[K1052]

FAA is stopping/delaying arrivals into LGA due air traffic controller shortages. This shit is about to get real for the rest of the country.

 

[K1052]

Climbing delays at EWR due to ATC staffing.

 

[brycejones]

Good PR.

Man that is almost as annoying as telling men to be good.

 

[Paratus]

All those workers get paid when the shutdown ends. They are not working for free but without a paycheck until the shutdown ends. How many of those calling in sick are really waiting tables or driving for Uber? They call in sick as a middle finger to the system.

I agree that the shutdown is not productive. But the mainstream media is saying that these government workers are going to food pantries to get food. Also known as food banks.

I think people think they are working for free. They are simply doing their jobs without a paycheck until the government shutdown ends. After the shutdown ends, they get back pay.

https://imgur.com/Op0e2hp

What an idiotic out of touch post.

 

[K1052]

At least 14K unpaid IRS workers aren't showing up at their jobs...seems like a bit of a problem for tax season.

At least 14,000 unpaid workers in the Internal Revenue Service division that includes tax processing and call centers did not show up for work this week despite orders to do so, according to two House aides, posing a challenge to the Trump administration’s ability to minimize the damage from the government shutdown.

The Trump administration ordered more than 30,000 employees back to work unpaid to prepare for tax filing season, which is set to begin next week. But of the 26,000 workers called back to the IRS division that includes the tax processing centers and call centers, about 9,000 workers could not be reached and about 5,000 more claimed a hardship exemption, IRS officials have told members of Congress, according to aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the numbers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...according-house-aides/?utm_term=.bcbc3ebc6749

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

At least 14K unpaid IRS workers aren't showing up at their jobs...seems like a bit of a problem for tax season.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...according-house-aides/?utm_term=.bcbc3ebc6749

It will all get worse, especially with ATC. By the regs controllers must call out if they are impaired and in no universe is a distracted, mentally and physically, after forced to work 80 hours a week safe to work. No action can be taken against them. From a safety perspective we have a legitimate threshold for a complete shutdown.

 

[UNCjigga]

Pshhhaw...14,000? I'm sure Mnuchin and his direct reports can do their work. Didn't I read somewhere that your net worth is proportional to your productivity...or something similar Rand once said?

 

[K1052]

It will all get worse, especially with ATC. By the regs controllers must call out if they are impaired and in no universe is a distracted, mentally and physically, after forced to work 80 hours a week safe to work. No action can be taken against them. From a safety perspective we have a legitimate threshold for a complete shutdown.

Unless Trump caves very soon the damage is going to increase exponentially.

 

[Hans Gruber]

https://imgur.com/Op0e2hp

What an idiotic out of touch post.

Years ago I asked why people like you were born.

 

[K1052]

ATL now has departure delays at 1 hour and increasing due to staffing.

Shitstorm imminent.

 

[PJFrylar]

Years ago I asked why people like you were born.

And just why were you? Justify your existence. Now.

 

[vi edit]

I hope all ATC staff just walk out (at least in a staged and controlled manner to hand off flights and whatnot) and do not return. Bring travel to a halt. The end.

 

[K1052]

I hope all ATC staff just walk out (at least in a staged and controlled manner to hand off flights and whatnot) and do not return. Bring travel to a halt. The end.

That's legally prohibited but, as pointed out by Hayabusa, they could force a massive reduction in air system capacity that would effectively be the same thing. If they only have staffing for say 50% of current air traffic volume there would be absolute fucking chaos nationwide.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That's legally prohibited but, as pointed out by Hayabusa, they could force a massive reduction in air system capacity that would effectively be the same thing. If they only have staffing for say 50% of current air traffic volume there would be absolute fucking chaos nationwide.

Since there can be no retrubution against workers who call out for cause, nothing can stop inevitible collapse of air traffic. There's a far better chance, better than not IMO, of the Senate moving towards Pelosi with a veto proof bill.

 

[Paratus]

Years ago I asked why people like you were born.

I’m not suprised. There seems to be a lot of obvious things that you find confusing.

Let me help you out.

You see when a man and woman love each other very much...

 

[UNCjigga]

Looks like the 3 week deal to open the government is on...and then Republicans can take hostages again.

What the eff is the point? Make sure workers can get one paycheck before shutting down again?

 

[vi edit]

Looks like the 3 week deal to open the government is on...and then Republicans can take hostages again.

What the eff is the point? Make sure workers can get one paycheck before shutting down again?

Trump is obsessed with breaking records. Gives him a chance to break the record he just got done setting with the longest shutdown ever. 40 days? LET'S SHOOT FOR 60 NEXT TIME!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Looks like it's a deal to reopen for 3 weeks. No way the GOP can let it get shut back down. They will get far worse than they are getting now.

Edit: 3 week CR, current level of funding for the wall/border etc... In 3 weeks if Trump doesn't get his money he is expected to declare an emergency which, given it's clearly not an imminent threat as a wall would take years to build, will likely die in the court.

Oooh. new GOP source say no executive order expected.

 

[zinfamous]

People can be so creative sometimes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/ent...cles-to-gop-senators-to-protest-shutdown.html

This man is a national treasure.

 

[zinfamous]

That's legally prohibited but, as pointed out by Hayabusa, they could force a massive reduction in air system capacity that would effectively be the same thing. If they only have staffing for say 50% of current air traffic volume there would be absolute fucking chaos nationwide.

Does the USA want to operate like Italy? Because this is how you operate like Italy.

 

[K1052]

Looks like it's a deal to reopen for 3 weeks. No way the GOP can let it get shut back down. They will get far worse than they are getting now.

Edit: 3 week CR, current level of funding for the wall/border etc... In 3 weeks if Trump doesn't get his money he is expected to declare an emergency which, given it's clearly not an imminent threat as a wall would take years to build, will likely die in the court.

Oooh. new GOP source say no executive order expected.

Yea, reporting says clean 3 week CR. Huge cave after weeks of bluster that have seen his polling rapidly deteriorate.

I also think it's extremely unlikely the Senate GOP is going to be up for a replay in a few weeks.

 

[Stokely]

3 weeks is ludicrously short.

 

[nakedfrog]

This man is a national treasure.

Good on him, but also, I'm kind of shocked that people are so concerned with their dog's ballsack appearance that they'll pay a few hundred bucks for fake replacements, and enough to make this guy a millionaire.