Religion of Peace

[schmuckley]

Forced conversion is part of the law of Moses. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the Lord gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God in violation of his covenant, 3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, 4 and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 7 The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you.

That was in that particular instance.It is NOT an open-ended statement to do that always.
They were being told what to do at that point in time.

It also says "doing evil deeds" and could be construed as to say they must
a) be doing evil deeds
AND
b) have been worshipping other gods.

I don't think that was the meaning.I think there was a purge going on.

Jews and Christians do not subscribe to such practices in modern times;or since the birth of Christ, for that matter.
Furthermore this is "In-house" cleaning;not going out and subduing people.

 

[werepossum]

That was in that particular instance.It is NOT an open-ended statement to do that always.
They were being told what to do at that point in time.

It also says "doing evil deeds" and could be construed as to say they must
a) be doing evil deeds
AND
b) have been worshipping other gods.

I don't think that was the meaning.I think there was a purge going on.

Jews and Christians do not subscribe to such practices in modern times;or since the birth of Christ, for that matter.

Pretty sure "this evil deed" was worshipping other gods.

Nonetheless, this is Old Testament. Christians are bound by the New Testament, which is hate the sin but love the sinner. (Note: Beheading, stoning, and burning alive are not valid examples of love under Christianity. Except maybe in one part of Africa, among one group of Christians.)

 

[Zorkorist]

Christians are reformed, and somewhat realize how fucked up their religion is.

-John

 

[Orignal Earl]

Pretty sure "this evil deed" was worshipping other gods.

Nonetheless, this is Old Testament. Christians are bound by the New Testament, which is hate the sin but love the sinner. (Note: Beheading, stoning, and burning alive are not valid examples of love under Christianity. Except maybe in one part of Africa, among one group of Christians.)

Ask the Religion Experts: Is it OK to say ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’?

ABDUL RASHID is a member of the Ottawa Muslim community, the Christian-Muslim Dialogue and the Capital Region Interfaith Council.

However, both the Holy Qur’an and the Holy Prophet inform us that human beings, though aware of distinction between right and wrong and of teachings of faith, commit errors. The Holy Prophet also said: “All of Adam’s descendants constantly err, but the best of those who constantly err are those who constantly repent.”

No religion in the world commands us to hate our fellow humans, regardless of what they may have done. Today’s epigram asks us to distinguish between persons and things — to dissociate the individual’s behaviour from the person.

Jesus says: “Why do you see the speck in your neighbour’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? …. You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbour’s eye” (Matthew 7:3,5).

Those who say “love the sinner, hate the sin” may speak out of an unacknowledged sense of moral superiority. Condescension, not compassion, is their theme.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Religion+Experts+love+sinner+hate/9395277/story.html

 

[schmuckley]

Ask the Religion Experts: Is it OK to say ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Religion+Experts+love+sinner+hate/9395277/story.html

Hmm..Ottawa,aye?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/

Ask a religion expert which religion that shooter follewed.
:/

 

[werepossum]

Hmm..Ottawa,aye?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/

Ask a religion expert which religion that shooter follewed.
:/

lol That's completely coincidental. Just like it always is.

 

[TheSlamma]

As an infidel I don't really the peace and love.

 

[werepossum]

Ask the Religion Experts: Is it OK to say ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Religion+Experts+love+sinner+hate/9395277/story.html

Jesus said "Why do you see the speck in your neighbour’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?"

Muhammad said "Off with their heads! What? It's okay to lie to infidels, promise mercy and then kill them. In fact, now it's your duty. I want you to- I mean, God wants you to kill as many of them as possible, even if you have to die to do it. They pissed me off. Um, I mean they pissed God off. Now I'm going back to my hot seven year old wife, so try to kill them quietly."

 

[Orignal Earl]

Hmm..Ottawa,aye?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/

Ask a religion expert which religion that shooter follewed.
:/

They would say he was not following Islam

 

[schmuckley]

They would say he was not following Islam

Yet he would claim he was;to the letter,even.
I would say he's probably refusing to eat pork in jail;but he's dead.
He attended Mosque the weekend before he did that.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Jesus said "Why do you see the speck in your neighbour’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?"

Muhammad said "Off with their heads! What? It's okay to lie to infidels, promise mercy and then kill them. In fact, now it's your duty. I want you to- I mean, God wants you to kill as many of them as possible, even if you have to die to do it. They pissed me off. Um, I mean they pissed God off. Now I'm going back to my hot seven year old wife, so try to kill them quietly."

I can see the log in your eye from here

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hmm..Ottawa,aye?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/

Ask a religion expert which religion that shooter follewed.
:/

Once again, you're an ignorant bigot who doesn't have a clue about what you're yapping about.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Yet he would claim he was;to the letter,even.
I would say he's probably refusing to eat pork in jail;but he's dead.
He attended Mosque the weekend before he did that.

He was a drugged up crazy guy.
Muslims mourned with the family.

 

[werepossum]

I can see the log in your eye from here

Of course you do. Because I'm not a Muslim.

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol That's completely coincidental. Just like it always is.

Instead of joining an ignorant bigot in his ignorance and bigotry maybe you should take the time to educated yourself on the guy's background, especially as relates to his mental health and drug issues. Or not...

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yet he would claim he was;to the letter,even.
I would say he's probably refusing to eat pork in jail;but he's dead.
He attended Mosque the weekend before he did that.

He was a mentally ill drug addict that local mosques kicked out because he was acting like an asshole and freaked them out.

You don't know shit about this or anything else you're yapping about.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Of course you do. Because I'm not a Muslim.

Yours looks pretty close to ISIS and Blue Max and schmuck's version of Islam

 

[Vic]

lol That's completely coincidental. Just like it always is.

The guy who shot up the UPS facility in Alabama last September was a devout Christian. I'm sure that was just coincidental as well.

 

[Zorkorist]

Fuck, Vic...

If you're going to play the religion card, might as well use yourself as a crazy, religious, mother-fucker.

-John

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I have an idea for how to deal with the suicide bombette in the Jordanian prison. We give her an injection "for her health" while infecting her with Ebola, then send her back to ISIS.

 

[werepossum]

Instead of joining an ignorant bigot in his ignorance and bigotry maybe you should take the time to educated yourself on the guy's background, especially as relates to his mental health and drug issues. Or not...

I don't know THIS guy's background, but if you're going to argue that Muslims simply have an exceeding high rate of mental health and drug issues that has nothing to do with their religion, expect to be mocked.

Yours looks pretty close to ISIS and Blue Max and schmuck's version of Islam

lol

The guy who shot up the UPS facility in Alabama last September was a devout Christian. I'm sure that was just coincidental as well.

Do you really not see any difference in the rate of these "coincidences"?

 

[schmuckley]

Once again, you're an ignorant bigot who doesn't have a clue about what you're yapping about.

Once again you're slinging insults with zero foundation.
A) Ottawa shooter was Muslim
B) What say you?

He surely wasn't a Buddhist;or Taoist,or Christian.

Someday these people will wake up and realize that all the false doctrines they live by are regressive instead of progressive.

example:

 

[nickqt]

Once again you're slinging insults with zero foundation.
A) Ottawa shooter was Muslim
B) What say you?

He surely wasn't a Buddhist;or Taoist,or Christian.

Someday these people will wake up and realize that all the false doctrines they live by are regressive instead of progressive.

example:

We should make Muslims wear patches on their sleeves. It can have a Crescent Moon and Star. Not for any devious reasons, but just so we're all aware of who they are in public, so that we can be safe, since Muslims are all inherently violent and ready to lash out.

 

[schmuckley]

No, He meant being stoned to death one rock at a time by an angry mob.

..but only if there's 2 witnesses,and they must do the 1st honors.

That's quite a bit different from: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=9%3A29&size=First+100

This means you,librals.AND Christians,and Jews.

The thing is..Christians and Jews acknowledge it.

This is the philosophy of the religion.Can you see where that's not good? Maybe not.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Once again you're slinging insults with zero foundation.
A) Ottawa shooter was Muslim
B) What say you?

He surely wasn't a Buddhist;or Taoist,or Christian.

Someday these people will wake up and realize that all the false doctrines they live by are regressive instead of progressive.

example:

He was a Frenchman too, you know what they say about those Frenchmen eh