Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

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Ahahahahahahhaha. The toolbag didn't even read the FISA applications before writing the memo!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/03/devin-nunes-fox-gop-memo-sot-erin.cnn

And he even says "I thought the best person to do that would be Trey Gowdy". Yeah. The guy who has gone out of his way to ensure that people know he has nothing to do with the memo.

This is so colossally bad that I'm wondering if Nunes is a double agent. Create something that Trump can hang himself with by choosing to declassify. And bring down all the Trump fluffers with him.
 

fskimospy

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ooo an ad hominem attack, lol.

read the memo, its damning.

What planet are you living on. It’s filled with distortions and purposeful omissions but even if everything it said were true it still doesn’t amount to anything.

Republicans shot their dicks off here. Lol.
 
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Remember the days when the GOP said this memo wasn't about distracting or discrediting the Mueller probe? Yesterday? Those were good times.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
This memo totally vindicates “Trump” in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction (the word now used because, after one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead). This is an American disgrace!

6:40 AM - 3 Feb 2018
 

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Lost in all of this is that, until Mueller, the investigation was entirely a counterintelligence investigation and not a criminal one, and no one involved in any actual investigation has stated that Trump himself is implicated in or the direct target of any investigation. The commission of the special counsel extends from counterintelligence to "any links and/or coordination between Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." Aside from obstruction and money laundering, of course, things that are offshoots of investigatory findings and nothing to do with the initial counterintelligence probe.
 

Jaskalas

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Why would the accusations hold up?

So let's get down to the crux of it.
  • Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  • And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
That's the heart of the criminal accusations, as raised by the partisan memo.
Is there any public counter evidence? The news articles I'm seeing are deflecting from the central questions by batting down side shows.
 

Puffnstuff

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This memo release is just dumb and dumber 2018 style. The out of context memo is just dumb but releasing it out into the wild so intelligent people can see it was even dumber. If you go back to October 30th and listen to a Carter Paige interview with Chris he tells the interviewer that Paul Ryan is going to release it. Just go to 9:06 in the video and listen to him tell it.
 

dank69

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So let's get down to the crux of it.
  • Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  • And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
That's the heart of the criminal accusations, as raised by the partisan memo.
Is there any public counter evidence? The news articles I'm seeing are deflecting from the central questions by batting down side shows.
Where did you get the idea that the dossier is Russian propaganda?
 

cytg111

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lol are you serious anandtech forum users? heres proof of all the collusion you were looking for, russian trolls, the use of the government spy apparatus to attack political opponents, but since it was the democrats doing it, then its all a lie right?

Another one outing himself. Sad. And stupid. I can only imagine that your commanding officer told you guys to go all in on this one. You should have stayed in the shadows, trolls withers in the light.
 

snarfbot

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afaict there isn't anything indicating that mueller himself was biased in anyway, im sure his investigation will conclude that there is no evidence of any collusion with russia, well see.

what has been established is that the clinton campaign, and the dnc and some fbi and doj employees have worked with or manipulated the media into creating a picture of republican russian collusion in a bid to sway the election and otherwise discredit president trump.

try to spin it away if you want tho
 

IronWing

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So let's get down to the crux of it.
  • Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  • And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
That's the heart of the criminal accusations, as raised by the partisan memo.
Is there any public counter evidence? The news articles I'm seeing are deflecting from the central questions by batting down side shows.
Was the Steele information Russian propaganda? Was the information corrupt or falsified?

Was the Nunes memo based on any facts at all? Did Nunes reach in and fold the memo into quarters to get it out of his butt?
 

snarfbot

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Another one outing himself. Sad. And stupid. I can only imagine that your commanding officer told you guys to go all in on this one. You should have stayed in the shadows, trolls withers in the light.

afaik the only evidence of that sort of thing happening was with correct the record, a pro clinton organization designed to manipulate public discourse.
 

Puffnstuff

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try to spin it away if you want tho
Go back to playing your game.
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fskimospy

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So let's get down to the crux of it.
  • Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  • And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
That's the heart of the criminal accusations, as raised by the partisan memo.
Is there any public counter evidence? The news articles I'm seeing are deflecting from the central questions by batting down side shows.

There is no evidence that the FBI gave any false evidence to a FISA judge at all, and if any info was false there is no evidence they were aware that it was.

The ‘heart’ of these allegations is less than zero. There’s no deflecting going on because there’s nothing to deflect. It’s just nothing.
 

outriding

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What planet are you living on. It’s filled with distortions and purposeful omissions but even if everything it said were true it still doesn’t amount to anything.

Republicans shot their dicks off here. Lol.

An omission is a lie. So snarfbot is ok with lying by a government official
 

pcgeek11

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Where is all the gloom and doom predicted by the Democrats? I thought this memo spelled the end and was going to out all of these sources and methods.

It also wasn't as big a deal as the Republicans made out. Though it does raise some questions about McCabe saying that no FISA would have been sought without the dossier and the "circular reporting" with Steele feeding Yahoo News and that news story used to back up the dossier.

Looking forward to the Democrats Memo.
 
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Thankfully people possessing the evidence that demonstrates how the memo is inaccurate and leading have enough integrity to keep it secret unless it has gone through a proper declassification process. They care about protecting our intelligence agencies.

Why do I have confidence that such evidence does exist? Well, because every person that has actually seen the underlying intelligence that the memo is based on (its author hasn't) that has spoken to it has condemned it as possessing inaccuracies and pointing to misleading conclusions. Notably, this includes the one member of the majority who was granted access to the intelligence in the House intelligence committee. And that 4 separate FISA judges authorized or renewed the surveillance. And that Congress was sure to reauthorize FISA before releasing the memo.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Then, the memo was released.

Now, it's full of lies and meaningless information that is to be ignored. This too, has had the same treatment as before and has been bought into by the same suspects here.

Do you have any sense of being manipulated? Any sense of looking like near imbecile's? Obviously not.

Thanks though, for the entertainment!

Complain about the critics - check
Don't address any of their points - check
Make a claim based on zero facts - check

Conclusion - passes Trumpian standard for truthyness