Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

[Puffnstuff]

And so, as a PSA to every so called "conservative" -- "conservative" because Trump supporters aren't conservative, they are just angry racist white christians supremacists masquerading as conservatives eg Limbaugh

Let me fix that for you brother as there's nothing Christian about their behavior and its well past time to recognize the difference. Organized religion is run by the money changers who don't worship the God of the bible. The word says that no man can serve two masters for he will love the one and hate the other. I'm positive that anyone not blinded by religion can see the obvious.

Getting back on topic the only member of the GOP standing up against this memo release seems to be John McCain.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/politics/john-mccain-nunes-memo/index.html

 

[fskimospy]

Hannity: Mueller Probe Was Based on a House of Cards That's Now Crashing Down

"The FBI, deep state officials, they used a Hillary Clinton campaign bought and paid for dossier that was filled with Russian lies, Russian propaganda, totally unverified, to lie to a FISA court to obtain a warrant. So they could spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page."​

So the interesting angle here is not that other evidence may have existed, but the claim the FBI and DOJ KNOWINGLY used false evidence, the dossier. This is straight up criminal accusations. I believe Hannity et al. are laying this on Comey and Rosenstein.

Also... something about these folks at the FBI and DOJ citing a Yahaoo story, sourced by none other than Steele, as a "separate source" to corroborate his own fake dossier. The claim is, perhaps, that the FBI and DOJ knowingly did this. It's pretty spicy if the accusations hold up.

The memo directly contradicts the idea that they knew it as in another section it details how Steele misled them about how he was talking to news outlets.

The memo is not just insanely dishonest, it’s incompetent in its dishonesty as it repeatedly undercuts its own premise.

 

[fskimospy]

Another point I saw brought up is that the memo says the Steele dossier was an essential part of the initial application and all renewals but the FBI didn’t notify the court of its political origins.

The dossier became national news shortly after the initial application and everyone knew it’s sourcing. So either it’s source was known or irrelevant from the judge’s perspective or they happened to find the dumbest and most ignorant judge alive.

Or... the memo is a lie. Naaahhhhh.

 

[Meghan54]

Found this interesting (sorry if it was posted already):

Did the Nunes memo undermine its own core argument?

Beyond the controversy over the timing, wisdom and true purpose of its Friday release, the Republican memo alleging anti-Trump corruption at the FBI and Justice Department contains one remarkable detail that undermines its core assertion.

In the first two sentences of the document's final paragraph, its authors note that the application to monitor former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page included a reference to another former campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.

It goes on to confirm, in the next sentence, earlier reports that the same "information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok."

That the Papadopoulos "information" also played some role in helping to secure the FBI's desired warrant throws into doubt claims by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes and other Republicans that law enforcement officials leaned too heavily on the contents of a dossier funded, indirectly, by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

The timeline here is key.

The FISA application, under protracted scrutiny in the memo, was granted in October 2016. But, as confirmed here by Nunes himself, a potentially related investigation had begun months earlier, in July. And while the memo states that "there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos," it does not articulate the degree to which evidence gleaned from the Papadopoulos probe weighed on the court's decision to grant the Page warrant. Nor does it address whether that intelligence might have corroborated details from the dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-its-own-core-argument/ar-BBICYRv?li=BBnb7Kz


Maybe Nunes just didn't get to fully grammatically correct everything?

 

[boomerang]

First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Then, the memo was released.

Now, it's full of lies and meaningless information that is to be ignored. This too, has had the same treatment as before and has been bought into by the same suspects here.

Do you have any sense of being manipulated? Any sense of looking like near imbecile's? Obviously not.

Thanks though, for the entertainment!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Holy shit boy it's too early to be this high. Go back to bed.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html

The Washington Free Beacon had used Fusion GPS in the past. The DNC was responsible for the hiring of Steele and his resulting dossier.

Not sure what I am wrong about. What I wrote is a condensed summary of the info you linked. What part did I get wrong?

 

[UNCjigga]

Hannity has lost all credibility--he went all in on memo hype for 2 weeks ("This will make Watergate look like stealing a Snickers bar!!") and when it's exposed for the dud that it is... HE DOUBLES DOWN! Last night, not only did he say that the memo exposes the biggest corruption scandal in history (it doesn't) but that Rosenstein and Mueller need to go, the investigation needs to end... AND ALL CHARGES AGAINST MANAFORT AND FLYNN SHOULD BE DROPPED!!!

I'm trying to find a video link to his outrageous claims.

At what point does what he's doing become illegal? Is he free to slander any person or institution as long as he wants, with no repercussions? How much damage is he doing, sowing the seeds of sedition amongst low IQ types who lack the critical thinking skills to read a 4 page memo and figure out what it means?

 

[fskimospy]

First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Then, the memo was released.

Now, it's full of lies and meaningless information that is to be ignored. This too, has had the same treatment as before and has been bought into by the same suspects here.

Do you have any sense of being manipulated? Any sense of looking like near imbecile's? Obviously not.

Thanks though, for the entertainment!

Didn’t they specifically say those parts were later redacted? Durrrrr.

Someone who is as stupid as you are should probably refrain from questioning other people’s intelligence.

 

[HomerJS]

From the office of Trey Gowdy

Gowdy: Nunes memo does not discredit Mueller probe in any way

Gowdy is one of the few people who has not only seen the memos but the underlying intel and this is what he says.

Any more questions?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hannity has lost all credibility--he went all in on memo hype for 2 weeks ("This will make Watergate look like stealing a Snickers bar!!") and when it's exposed for the dud that it is... HE DOUBLES DOWN! Last night, not only did he say that the memo exposes the biggest corruption scandal in history (it doesn't) but that Rosenstein and Mueller need to go, the investigation needs to end... AND ALL CHARGES AGAINST MANAFORT AND FLYNN SHOULD BE DROPPED!!!

I'm trying to find a video link to his outrageous claims.

At what point does what he's doing become illegal? Is he free to slander any person or institution as long as he wants, with no repercussions? How much damage is he doing, sowing the seeds of sedition amongst low IQ types who lack the critical thinking skills to read a 4 page memo and figure out what it means?

uhhhh... lost?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Not sure what I am wrong about. What I wrote is a condensed summary of the info you linked. What part did I get wrong?

It's a timeline issue. His position is that Steele, the author of the dossier, wasn't hired by Fusion until after the DNC took on the payments. So anything he was involved in would be solely funded by the DNC.

 

[HomerJS]

First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Then, the memo was released.

Now, it's full of lies and meaningless information that is to be ignored. This too, has had the same treatment as before and has been bought into by the same suspects here.

Do you have any sense of being manipulated? Any sense of looking like near imbecile's? Obviously not.

Thanks though, for the entertainment!

Its meaningless as to discrediting the Mueller investigation. One piece of intel Russians now know are timelines Carter Paige was being surveilled.

The only people being manipulated are the Fox News lemmings

Thanks Obama

 

[K1052]

If this story is accurate then the DOJ did in fact tell the FISA court that the dossier was a politically biased document which would refute a central allegation of the Nunes memo. This is why the incompetent partisan clown show that ensued to put this thing out in the first place shouldn't have been allowed.

The court that approved surveillance of a former campaign adviser to President Trump was aware that some of the information underpinning the warrant request was paid for by a political entity, although the application did not specifically name the Democratic National Committee or the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

A now-declassified Republican memo alleged that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was duped into approving the wiretap request by a politicized FBI and Justice Department. The memo was written by House Intelligence Committee Republicans and alleged a “troubling breakdown of legal processes” flowing from the government’s wiretapping of former Trump aide Carter Page.

But its central allegation — that the government failed to disclose a source’s political bias — is baseless, the officials said.

The Justice Department made “ample disclosure of relevant, material facts” to the court that revealed “the research was being paid for by a political entity,” said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

“No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion but that” the work was being undertaken “at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump,” the official said.

Former senior Justice Department officials who handled applications for wiretap warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) say that such applications typically include dozens of pages and undergo rigorous vetting.

“We didn’t put in every fact, but we put in enough facts to allow the court to judge bias and motive and credibility of the sourcing,” said Matthew G. Olsen, former deputy assistant attorney general for national security who oversaw the Justice Department’s FISA program from 2006 to 2009.

http://wapo.st/2nDAzGt?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.6d94cfedabc2

 

[interchange]

First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Fake Fucking News. Show me this was the narrative about the Nunes memo and show me people here buying into it.

 

[HomerJS]

Fake Fucking News. Show me this was the narrative about the Nunes memo and show me people here buying into it.

Don't worry about him. Clearly his house of cards is collapsing as we speak and he is...

 

[HomerJS]

Anyone want a laugh? Goto Fox News Sunday's Facebook page and check out responses to a question about the memo.

 

[IronWing]

Don't worry about him. Clearly his house of cards is collapsing as we speak and he is...

Jesus Christ with a giant Slurpee, you can do hard time for possessing that many straws. You should delete that pic before life sucks for you.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Anyone want a laugh? Goto Fox News Sunday's Facebook page and check out responses to a question about the memo.

Are the answers just a jumble of letters as people slam their ham fists onto their keyboards in rage?

 

[cytg111]

First, it was that the memo was full of classified information and releasing it would reveal a lot of spying methodology that would be extremely harmful to the nation. That was accepted in its entirety and bandied about by the leftist media. Members of Congress publicly declared this to be the absolute truth. It was bought into fully by the usual suspects here.

Then, the memo was released.

Now, it's full of lies and meaningless information that is to be ignored. This too, has had the same treatment as before and has been bought into by the same suspects here.

Do you have any sense of being manipulated? Any sense of looking like near imbecile's? Obviously not.

Thanks though, for the entertainment!

READ THE FCKIN MEMO. Read it. It owns it self. No need for anything else but READING THE FCKIN MEMO.
Can you read? We know you dont lift, but can you even READ? Dumb dumber brandondull.. sry boomerang.. whatever you are today.

 

[snarfbot]

lol are you serious anandtech forum users? heres proof of all the collusion you were looking for, russian trolls, the use of the government spy apparatus to attack political opponents, but since it was the democrats doing it, then its all a lie right?

 

[snoopy7548]

Ahahahahahahhaha. The toolbag didn't even read the FISA applications before writing the memo!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/03/devin-nunes-fox-gop-memo-sot-erin.cnn

 

[soundforbjt]

Ahahahahahahhaha. The toolbag didn't even read the FISA applications before writing the memo!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/03/devin-nunes-fox-gop-memo-sot-erin.cnn

That’s been know for a while, book report written without reading the book.

 

[VRAMdemon]

If this story is accurate then the DOJ did in fact tell the FISA court that the dossier was a politically biased document which would refute a central allegation of the Nunes memo. This is why the incompetent partisan clown show that ensued to put this thing out in the first place shouldn't have been allowed.



http://wapo.st/2nDAzGt?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.6d94cfedabc2

There were multiple sources of information used to obtain the FISA warrant, not just the Steele dossier. Because those sources are classified, they can't be revealed without compromising national security. And..As far as I know Nunes has never seen the information used to obtain the FISA warrent. The only people in the House Intelligence committee have seen it, Trey Gowdy and Adam Schiff, as well as the rest of the Gang of Eight. Nunes is on the Gang of Eight but for some reason had Gowdy view the information instead of doing it himself.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that Steele really was biased. Had a dislike for Trump. Would love to see him not get elected.

So in the course of his research, he's expecting to see the usual tawdry behavior: stuff he's been engaging in for the last 40 years: treating people rudely, girlfriends on the side, deceptive shady business deals. But instead he finds that Trump is in bed with the Russians.

So he goes to the FBI and shares his information...not the least bit reluctantly, but it's the right thing to do anyway.

Would anyone involved seriously say "Well, this information is obviously tainted by Steele's bias, and we can't use it"

 

[Puffnstuff]

lol are you serious anandtech forum users? heres proof of all the collusion you were looking for, russian trolls, the use of the government spy apparatus to attack political opponents, but since it was the democrats doing it, then its all a lie right?

I found a surveillance photo of you in action comrade.