Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

[K1052]

So Nunes didn't read the FISA application but wrote a memo about the FISA application which Trey Gowdy read who described it to him. Makes no sense.

Next up is apparently another memo but about the State Department.

This is taxpayer funded performance art designed in a weak ass bid to push out officials Trump doesn't have the nuts to just fire.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Actually, it is you that is wrong, from your own article:
"The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination."

Telling the firm to stop doing something means that the firm was doing it, no?

Funny how you left that out of your quoted text. Like really funny.

Not quite. Fusion hired Steele after the DNC took over. June I believe. He’s not wrong on that part.

 

[UberNeuman]

I imagine the republicans have dirty hands in this as well and are in no way the innocent saints they appear to be.


Its an amazing little rat chase everyone got involved in. Meanwhile this is EXACTLY what the Russians wanted...to sew dissent and chaos in american voter confidence.

Just because you and your ilk willfully voted for, and still support Trump doesn’t make it the “both sides” bullshit you wish it to be.

What the Russians wanted was the GOP. Well, they got it.

 

[jackstar7]

Not quite. Fusion hired Steele after the DNC took over. June I believe. He’s not wrong on that part.

Fair enough.

I find the timing suspect, but I apologize to you, Atreus.

 

[brycejones]

Actually, it is you that is wrong, from your own article:
"The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination."

Telling the firm to stop doing something means that the firm was doing it, no?

Funny how you left that out of your quoted text. Like really funny.

oops....

 

[K1052]

It seems the next act of this stupid fucking clown show is destined to commence:

 

[HomerJS]

So Nunes didn't read the FISA application but wrote a memo about the FISA application which Trey Gowdy read who described it to him. Makes no sense.

Next up is apparently another memo but about the State Department.

This is taxpayer funded performance art designed in a weak ass bid to push out officials Trump doesn't have the nuts to just fire.

Nunes didn't read the FISA application to avoid responsibility for the memo. Blame it on staffers.

 

[HomerJS]

White House lawyer Don McGann stated that this memo is just an "opinion by congressional authors"

You mean its not factual? Its not even evidence that would hold up in court.

 

[UNCjigga]

White House lawyer Don McGann stated that this memo is just an "opinion by congressional authors"

You mean its not factual? Its not even evidence that would hold up in court.

Why would this memo turn up in court? There is no crime alleged within.

 

[Jhhnn]

So Nunes didn't read the FISA application but wrote a memo about the FISA application which Trey Gowdy read who described it to him. Makes no sense.

Next up is apparently another memo but about the State Department.

This is taxpayer funded performance art designed in a weak ass bid to push out officials Trump doesn't have the nuts to just fire.

It's like this-

 

[interchange]

I have a hypothesis about the FISA warrant. Can anyone demonstrate that it any information released in the memo or otherwise refutes it? I'm not saying I have evidence that the hypothesis is correct. However, if it cannot be refuted, then it demonstrates how the information released could easily be cherry picked to present a very false narrative.

OK. Here goes. Schiff has stated that the reason why the Yahoo! News article was not to corroborate the dossier in any way. David Kris has asserted that the likely explanation of its inclusion is to provide evidence that information has become public which would prompt Page to cover his tracks or destroy evidence. Given some assertion that McCabe stated in closed testimony that the warrant would not have been sought without the Steele dossier, there is a way to unify the seeking of the FISA warrant with David Kris' interpretation. Simply put, without the public release of the Steele dossier, the FBI did not fear that Page would take action to cover his tracks, and thus would have had no need to increase surveillance on him via FISC warrant. Release of the dossier may have only provided incentive to enhance surveillance without contributing materially to the investigation in any way.

 

[UberNeuman]

Anyone hear from resident Nunes memo expert extraordinaire DSF? Or was he unable to leave the Fortress of Derpatude today? lol.

 

[jackstar7]

Anyone hear from resident Nunes memo expert extraordinaire DSF? Or was he unable to leave the Fortress of Derpatude today? lol.

Now the alts showing up make a lot more sense...

 

[cytg111]

Former Trump adviser Carter Page under FISA warrant since 2014: Report

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/f...isa-warrant-since-2014-report/article/2630576
https://www.wsj.com/articles/former...igence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

Carter Page and the spy ring of 2013

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/carter-page-trump-russia.html

That the FBI busted up, two fled back to russia and one got time.
Carter Page has been a person of interest ever since.


The timeline makes ZERO sense
Sep. 26 2016 : Carter Page takes leave from Trump campaign
Oct. 19 2016 : FBI gets a FISA warrent to surveil Page.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-surveil-carter-page/?utm_term=.b736062badaa

Is THIS what they got? This is not stupid watergate, it is RETARDED watergate.

Then they sprinkle some Steele on it like it was crack and magic pixie dust and what? What?

 

[Jhhnn]

I have a hypothesis about the FISA warrant. Can anyone demonstrate that it any information released in the memo or otherwise refutes it? I'm not saying I have evidence that the hypothesis is correct. However, if it cannot be refuted, then it demonstrates how the information released could easily be cherry picked to present a very false narrative.

OK. Here goes. Schiff has stated that the reason why the Yahoo! News article was not to corroborate the dossier in any way. David Kris has asserted that the likely explanation of its inclusion is to provide evidence that information has become public which would prompt Page to cover his tracks or destroy evidence. Given some assertion that McCabe stated in closed testimony that the warrant would not have been sought without the Steele dossier, there is a way to unify the seeking of the FISA warrant with David Kris' interpretation. Simply put, without the public release of the Steele dossier, the FBI did not fear that Page would take action to cover his tracks, and thus would have had no need to increase surveillance on him via FISC warrant. Release of the dossier may have only provided incentive to enhance surveillance without contributing materially to the investigation in any way.

Meh. It seems clear to me that the FBI had their reasons to take a closer look at Carter Page after he left the campaign. I seriously doubt that the Steele dossier was more than a small part of it. The FBI is stuck in the position where they can't correct the record because their investigation is ongoing. They can't supply the missing information.

 

[interchange]

Meh. It seems clear to me that the FBI had their reasons to take a closer look at Carter Page after he left the campaign. I seriously doubt that the Steele dossier was more than a small part of it. The FBI is stuck in the position where they can't correct the record because their investigation is ongoing. They can't supply the missing information.

That's not the point. I don't think the hypothesis is correct, but I think it's valid which says a lot because it's a complete antithesis to the way the Nunes memo reads without being incompatible with it.

 

[Thump553]

Anyone have a strong enough stomach to watch Faux News to see how much they are puffing up this BS memo? After all, that is what really matters as that is what Trump watches and what he bases his opinion on what the people are demanding. He may still use it as a basis to fire Rosenstein and put a compliant patsy in charge of overseeing the Mueller investigation and greatly restricting it's scope. That's the whole purpose of this charade, after all. National security secrets and the FBI are just collateral damage.

 

[OutHouse]

In terms of "inside the beltway" language, this is a hand grenade. It is more than it appears; you just have to understand that criticism inside the beltway is always cause for retaliation.

The fact that Trey Gowdy had so much to do with this and then announced he will not seek re-election during the squabble over this tells me that the FBI/DOJ probably has some dirt on him and rather than cave to their threats he decided to step down and disarm them.

I mean, seriously, there is room in what this memo says to warrant a special investigator and possible treason charges.

 

[UberNeuman]

In terms of "inside the beltway" language, this is a hand grenade. It is more than it appears; you just have to understand that criticism inside the beltway is always cause for retaliation.

The fact that Trey Gowdy had so much to do with this and then announced he will not seek re-election during the squabble over this tells me that the FBI/DOJ probably has some dirt on him and rather than cave to their threats he decided to step down and disarm them.

I mean, seriously, there is room in what this memo says to warrant a special investigator and possible treason charges.

Your Party chose to side with Russia, as have you. Live with it, because you'll never be able to lie your way out of it.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

In terms of "inside the beltway" language, this is a hand grenade. It is more than it appears; you just have to understand that criticism inside the beltway is always cause for retaliation.

The fact that Trey Gowdy had so much to do with this and then announced he will not seek re-election during the squabble over this tells me that the FBI/DOJ probably has some dirt on him and rather than cave to their threats he decided to step down and disarm them.

I mean, seriously, there is room in what this memo says to warrant a special investigator and possible treason charges.

Man I wish people would stop throwing out the word treason for everything. Tip for everyone. When you want to call something treason, it is very likely not treason. It’s almost never treason. I mean historically. Never.

 

[Victorian Gray]

In terms of "inside the beltway" language, this is a hand grenade. It is more than it appears; you just have to understand that criticism inside the beltway is always cause for retaliation.

The fact that Trey Gowdy had so much to do with this and then announced he will not seek re-election during the squabble over this tells me that the FBI/DOJ probably has some dirt on him and rather than cave to their threats he decided to step down and disarm them.

I mean, seriously, there is room in what this memo says to warrant a special investigator and possible treason charges.

Vladi loves you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trump himself wasnt under official investigation until after the election, with Mueller. So Comey had no reason to even announce anything.



No, there were no traitors running for President. But the FBI agents who were using the FBI as a weapon against political opponents and damaging our justice system, IS treasonous.

The treason lies in those so brain defective they believe this. It's just that it's not your fault your disease is that bad.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's not the point. I don't think the hypothesis is correct, but I think it's valid which says a lot because it's a complete antithesis to the way the Nunes memo reads without being incompatible with it.

I don't grant the Nunes memo enough credibility to even speculate on ways to grant credibility which is apparently what you're attempting. It may well contain factual information but the spin & the conclusions are bogus.

Maybe we need to refresh everybody's memory about Carter Page-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

The best part is that the Trump campaign dropped him & disowned him like a red hot rock & now he's their convenient poster boy for FBI abuse.

 

[cytg111]

Trump himself wasnt under official investigation until after the election, with Mueller. So Comey had no reason to even announce anything.



No, there were no traitors running for President. But the FBI agents who were using the FBI as a weapon against political opponents and damaging our justice system, IS treasonous.

You got a source for that? Breitbart and Infowars excluded?

 

[Jhhnn]

In terms of "inside the beltway" language, this is a hand grenade. It is more than it appears; you just have to understand that criticism inside the beltway is always cause for retaliation.

The fact that Trey Gowdy had so much to do with this and then announced he will not seek re-election during the squabble over this tells me that the FBI/DOJ probably has some dirt on him and rather than cave to their threats he decided to step down and disarm them.

I mean, seriously, there is room in what this memo says to warrant a special investigator and possible treason charges.

Or maybe Trey just decided to quit the circus.

Room in the memo for blah blah blah? Only to people desperate to believe it at all.