Register Reports R520 to launch with unified shaders Arch

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: entropy1982
wow.... talk about epenises

Imaginary DX10 e-penises..roar!

8==========================D ~~~~~~~ nVidia
ATi huge unified shader e-penis





j/k

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: entropy1982
wow.... talk about epenises

Indeed. This is why I don't much visit the Video forums anymore.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: entropy1982
wow.... talk about epenises

Indeed. This is why I don't much visit the Video forums anymore.

They're good for entertainment, just don't put much stock in what you read here.

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: entropy1982
wow.... talk about epenises

Tell me about it. I only have a 6800U, and my e-penis is getting smaller and smaller with every new GPU release

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: entropy1982
wow.... talk about epenises

Indeed. This is why I don't much visit the Video forums anymore.

They're good for entertainment, just don't put much stock in what you read here.

I suppose you could put it that way. But the flaming and constant bickering between "sides" here does get old pretty quickly though.

 

[Turtle 1]

Look guys SM3 turned out to be pretty much nothing. The best thing we could do is be civil and respectful to each other. Make the video forum a pleasant experance for all .
Really think about doing the hard thing, Show true character and inner strength. Cheap shots are for kids. Think about it at least.

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: Turtle 1
Look guys SM3 turned out to be pretty much nothing. The best thing we could do is be civil and respectful to each other. Make the video forum a pleasant experance for all .
Really think about doing the hard thing, Show true character and inner strength. Cheap shots are for kids. Think about it at least.

That's nice and all, and I agree with you that we should alway's try and be civil, but unfortunately there has been too little moderating here for about a year now (more) and it ain't going to happen

The word enthusiast has been replaced by fanboy.

 

[junkyardDawg]

Be mature and have civil chats

Bwahahahahaha.....ahem...i mean :thumbsup:

that would be something though, if ATI could have kept this under the radar for this long

 

[biostud]

I came to this conclusion: Since both the G70 and R520 will be horrible outdated in a year , it doesn't matter which of the two you buy. So I ordered an 7800GTX

 

[Turtle 1]

Originally posted by: biostud
I came to this conclusion: Since both the G70 and R520 will be horrible outdated in a year , it doesn't matter which of the two you buy. So I ordered an 7800GTX

LOL Isn't their some nvidia G70 review for you to read. LOL LOL

 

[Greenman]

In simple terms, what are unified shaders and why should I be happy about it? I still have no idea what SM3 is either since were on the subject.

 

[Turtle 1]

Shader models read the SimHQ review also. Its a link

http://techreport.com/ja.zz?id=90367

If you need more just say the word

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1841223,00.asp

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: videogames101
In 11 days we will know....... If it does the cards are likely to fly off the shelves.

Not if the shelves are empty

 

[videogames101]

assuming ati gets the cards out on that date.

 

[Munky]

While it is possibe, I think the rumors would have leaked out by now if this was true. I mean we're all already conviced that it's a 16 pipe card, before even the official launch, but of course even that is subject to change. In theory, unified shaders could be implemented in the HW and the drivers, and Windoze/directX wouldnt know the difference. It would be cool if it were true, though.

 

[videogames101]

arg... the waiting is killing me..... i just hope ati pulls unified out of the hat and blows everyone away. But i hate to remember how everyone thought nintendo would show off soem amazing new thing at E3 and then nothing, even though we have a revolution in controllers(maybe?) i was hoping for it a E3. Now ati is leading to do the same to me. rumors about crap benches, great benches, unified shaders, etc etc. I wish ati would just release it...

 

[Polish3d]

What are unified shaders and the significance of them?

 

[videogames101]

you know i was wondering that too......

 

[BFG10K]

No this cann't be right. I don't think XP supports it

As has been pointed out it's the driver that ultimately decides on the implementation. All XP cares about is whether the driver's front-end interfaces with it properly. The back-end is totally up to the driver.

But DirectX has to support it.

Yes and no. If DirectX doesn't support it through the API the driver could map all pixel and vertex shader calls to the unified shaders and DirectX wouldn't even know about it. It could also work under OpenGL ARB or vendor specific extensions.

I'm not saying the article is true but it's not outside of the realms of possibility.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: videogames101
arg... the waiting is killing me..... i just hope ati pulls unified out of the hat and blows everyone away. But i hate to remember how everyone thought nintendo would show off soem amazing new thing at E3 and then nothing, even though we have a revolution in controllers(maybe?) i was hoping for it a E3. Now ati is leading to do the same to me. rumors about crap benches, great benches, unified shaders, etc etc. I wish ati would just release it...

Nintendo Revolution Specs leaked..

-Multithreaded PowerPC 2.5 GHz with 256 KB L1 cache and 1 MB of L2 cache
-Physical Processing Chip (PPU) with 32MB of dedicated RAM
-512MB of system RAM
-Custom ATI ?RN520? 600MHz CPU with 256MB
-Apparently the device will support external resolutions up to 2048 x 1268 though HD support is still as yet undecided
-7.1 surround

looks pretty good to me
:thumbsup:

 

[swatX]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
If it turns out by some remote chance that R520 has unified shaders (DX 10 is done after all) then expect to hear nVidiots claim it's a useless feature being ready for DX10 because games won't utilize it until R600 & Vista rolls around. The same people that have preached about SM 3.0/Open EXR (despite mediocre game support) will do an about face, mark my words.

NV themselves said they will be moving to unified shader architechture maybe late 06 . i am not sure if Geforce 8 series has it but i am betting geforce 9 will have unified shader architechture.

 

[Gamingphreek]

ATI already said, way back when, that the R520 will not be a Unified Shader Architecture... they did however hint that there was a strong possibility for the R600 to be Unified.

As for SM4. Yeah........Ok :roll: You keep wishing that.

This is the most ridiculous thread ever. I feel like someone at a Howard Dean rally. (Turtle) And if it has SM4... Were going to RUB IT IN THERE FACES!!!!

The ignorance is ridiculous right now. (Duvie for mod )

-Kevin

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: jasonja

Originally posted by: Turtle 1
No this cann't be right. I don't think XP supports it . I don't know but I think thats a misprint . ATI has gotten pretty good with drivers but I would think we would have heard more about this .

XP doesn't need to support "it" for a GPU to have unified shaders... how things are done internally in the hardware's architecture is of no importance to XP.

Nonetheless, this isn't true. It's well known that R520 doesn't have unified shaders.

Um, nothing is well known about the r520

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Turtle 1
Look guys SM3 turned out to be pretty much nothing.

Eh? SM3+ will be pretty much everything for the next few years, as both Xb360 and PS3 (and probably Revolution) have SM3+ featuresets, and devs working with both consoles and PCs will want to cater to the large and profitable console audience, hence featureset. Don't write it off quite yet.

Frackal and videogames101, look a few posts up. Greenman beat you to it. If you want to learn about unified shaders, read an article about Xbox 360's GPU, the ATI Xenos (aka R500, aka C1). I suggest you start with Beyond3D's.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
If it turns out by some remote chance that R520 has unified shaders (DX 10 is done after all) then expect to hear nVidiots claim it's a useless feature being ready for DX10 because games won't utilize it until R600 & Vista rolls around. The same people that have preached about SM 3.0/Open EXR (despite mediocre game support) will do an about face, mark my words.

IIRC correctly, nVidia stated that they felt there were no compelling gains to be had from a unified shader architecture, at least initially. They never qualified that comment with a time frame, so if F520 does launch with a unified shader architecture and fails to outperfrom the Geforce 7xxx series by a decent amount, I'd say their comments would be vindicated...