Red states vs Blue states, again

[lordtyranus]

It doesn't matter why people give, it matters how much they give.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
It doesn't matter why people give, it matters how much they give.

I hope you're joking.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
It doesn't matter why people give, it matters how much they give.

I guess that definately means the Red states out the Blue on that count.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Mill
It is sad how conjur seeks the bad out of everything he disagrees with. Such bitterness and intolerance.

Hunh? BTW, I've seen many of your past posts in OT...you're one to talk of bitterness.

What does OT have to do with P&N? In OT you were a fun guy whose posts I enjoyed. Now you are a bitter individual that comes awfully close to being a full blown troll. So, if you want to bring OT up -- you've managed to downgrade yourself.

Because you say so?

The only people who think I'm bitter are the die-hard Bush fans and those who practice their bigotry against others, esp. gays.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
It doesn't matter why people give, it matters how much they give.

I guess that definately means the Red states out the Blue on that count.

Indeed. More particularly, its the business philanthropists that really count.

I hope you're joking.

Not at all. If a company donates lots of money to improve its public image, all the more power to them, and I'm not going to look at it as a lesser contribution than a simple donation from somebody else.

 

[Moonbeam]

I love conservative values as we find in the red states. There is a strong sense of self reliance that reduces any false need to give. Then when a neighbor is truly in need, it's not at all unlikely that the whole community will respond. Everybody knows everybody and everybody is in some sense a part of the family. And red state people have have a pride in the fact that they give. They will tend to give more than their share just for the sake of it. You red state people are fantastic people.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: conjur
Because you say so?

The only people who think I'm bitter are the die-hard Bush fans and those who practice their bigotry against others, esp. gays.

Why must you use such discriminatory statements you accuse Bush fans of? Red states did not vote 100% for Bush and blue states did not vote 100% for Kerry. Just because someone voted for Bush does not make them religous, bigots, or anything like that. The same can be said for Kerry voters. The problem is you are spewing as much hate as you say the die hard Bush fans are.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I love conservative values as we find in the red states. There is a strong sense of self reliance that reduces any false need to give. Then when a neighbor is truly in need, it's not at all unlikely that the whole community will respond. Everybody knows everybody and everybody is in some sense a part of the family. And red state people have have a pride in the fact that they give. They will tend to give more than their share just for the sake of it. You red state people are fantastic people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I love conservative values as we find in the red states. There is a strong sense of self reliance that reduces any false need to give. Then when a neighbor is truly in need, it's not at all unlikely that the whole community will respond. Everybody knows everybody and everybody is in some sense a part of the family. And red state people have have a pride in the fact that they give. They will tend to give more than their share just for the sake of it. You red state people are fantastic people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The funny thing is that you are laughing because you think he was writing sarcasm. Perhaps he thought he was too. But, that is pretty much the way it is down here. I'm sure most of you non-Southerners can't fathom the idea as fact so I won't bother myself trying to convince you how close to the truth Moonbeam's sarcasm actually falls.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Mill
It is sad how conjur seeks the bad out of everything he disagrees with. Such bitterness and intolerance.

Hunh? BTW, I've seen many of your past posts in OT...you're one to talk of bitterness.

What does OT have to do with P&N? In OT you were a fun guy whose posts I enjoyed. Now you are a bitter individual that comes awfully close to being a full blown troll. So, if you want to bring OT up -- you've managed to downgrade yourself.

Because you say so?

The only people who think I'm bitter are the die-hard Bush fans and those who practice their bigotry against others, esp. gays.

Please explain how I'm either, since you are certainly implying it. If anything I'm 180 degrees from being anti-gay. If you recall I was vehemently against people using the term gay or f*g in posts, and finally enough people convinced the mods to equate that with racial slurs. I'm 100% for gay marriage, civil unions, or whatever. I'm 100% against a constitutional amendment to "protect" marriage.

I'm certainly not a rabid partisan as my ticket was about 55% GOP and 45 Democrat. I didn't decide whom I was going to vote for until late August early September. So, you'd be wrong(as usual), and I resent that you imply that I'm a bigot. I'll leave that for you engage in since you are intolerant of those who don't believe as you.

 

[piasabird]

Maybe that is becasuse most of the big evil corporations are near the largest cities which are in the Red States???

I will give you an example of what I mean most states that are red have a very large City in them. One example is Illinois which contains Chicago. Generally however the people living in and around Chicago vote, the rest of the state is stuck with going along with that due to how the state has decided to vote their electoral votes which they have allotted.

Another thing to consider is that many of the Red States are in an area where the cost of living and wages are higher.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Maybe that is becasuse most of the big evil corporations are near the largest cities which are in the Red States???

I will give you an example of what I mean most states that are red have a very large City in them. One example is Illinois which contains Chicago. Generally however the people living in and around Chicago vote, the rest of the state is stuck with going along with that due to how the state has decided to vote their electoral votes which they have allotted.

Another thing to consider is that many of the Red States are in an area where the cost of living and wages are higher.

Hell, the day after the election everyone was claiming that the Red states were filled with people of moronic intellect and income bordering on that of a South American jungle laborer. Now we are apparently in areas with greaters living costs and higher wages. Sweet, I need a raise.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I love conservative values as we find in the red states. There is a strong sense of self reliance that reduces any false need to give. Then when a neighbor is truly in need, it's not at all unlikely that the whole community will respond. Everybody knows everybody and everybody is in some sense a part of the family. And red state people have have a pride in the fact that they give. They will tend to give more than their share just for the sake of it. You red state people are fantastic people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The funny thing is that you are laughing because you think he was writing sarcasm. Perhaps he thought he was too. But, that is pretty much the way it is down here. I'm sure most of you non-Southerners can't fathom the idea as fact so I won't bother myself trying to convince you how close to the truth Moonbeam's sarcasm actually falls.

It wasn't sarcasm. I know what is good about the red states as well as I know what is wrong.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: conjur
Because you say so?

The only people who think I'm bitter are the die-hard Bush fans and those who practice their bigotry against others, esp. gays.

actually, it seems the gay marriage thing might be something of a red herring. turns out that bush increased his performance over 2000 more in states without gay marriage bans up for approval than those that did.

 

[TravisT]

conjur, out of curiousity, how much money have you given at all to charity, most likely from a blue state? I won't let you know how much I give unless you wish to know.... But just by the tone of your posts, i'd assume you give very little, if nothing and only spewing your bitter material because you and your party of choice can't compete on a higher level.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT
conjur, out of curiousity, how much money have you given at all to charity, most likely from a blue state? I won't let you know how much I give unless you wish to know.... But just by the tone of your posts, i'd assume you give very little, if nothing and only spewing your bitter material because you and your party of choice can't compete on a higher level.

He's from a Red State.

 

[colonel]

The liberal favorite charity is the government

I hope you can eat your words, but since you belong to the Red states and I m not surprise; I live in Connecticut and I think the article is wrong, Mill is just using this article to show how narrow is his thinking.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Maybe that is becasuse most of the big evil corporations are near the largest cities which are in the Red States???

I will give you an example of what I mean most states that are red have a very large City in them. One example is Illinois which contains Chicago. Generally however the people living in and around Chicago vote, the rest of the state is stuck with going along with that due to how the state has decided to vote their electoral votes which they have allotted.

Another thing to consider is that many of the Red States are in an area where the cost of living and wages are higher.

You can't be serious? You can buy a mansion down south for the price of a 2 bedroom house up here.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TravisT
conjur, out of curiousity, how much money have you given at all to charity, most likely from a blue state? I won't let you know how much I give unless you wish to know.... But just by the tone of your posts, i'd assume you give very little, if nothing and only spewing your bitter material because you and your party of choice can't compete on a higher level.

You don't read very well, do you?

How much do *you* give, Mr. Philanthropist?

 

[StageLeft]

I've found more charitable thoughts in the south than in the north, because people are more involved with their religion, it would seem.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: colonel

The liberal favorite charity is the government

I hope you can eat your words, but since you belong to the Red states and I m not surprise; I live in Connecticut and I think the article is wrong, Mill is just using this article to show how narrow is his thinking.

Right, I just made the article up.

 

[Zebo]

Easily explained

That's Jerry falwell/Pat Robertson ripping off impressionable little old ladies for ya. Probably from the SS benefits the blue states paid to them. So whos really paying for it?


Says right there the same thing more or less:

"The region?s high generosity level has been attributed to the practice of tithing - giving a tenth of one?s earnings to the church."

Ever heard of carnegie foundation? Gates foundation? Ford foundation? etc etc etc name one southern one with near the profile or contribution. You can't. Plus rich people of the north do not give like this: (itemised on C) we smart and set up trusts so our giving continues to give long after we gone. The five poorest states in the nation "give" the most according to this flawed survey. Ya right. And jethro, your 84 camero you donate is not worth $8000.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Maybe that is becasuse most of the big evil corporations are near the largest cities which are in the Red States???

I will give you an example of what I mean most states that are red have a very large City in them. One example is Illinois which contains Chicago. Generally however the people living in and around Chicago vote, the rest of the state is stuck with going along with that due to how the state has decided to vote their electoral votes which they have allotted.

Another thing to consider is that many of the Red States are in an area where the cost of living and wages are higher.

They most certainly are not in an area where the cost of living is much higher. In my "evil" blue state, you can't find a decent house (3-5 room, 1 bath and maybe half an acre) for under 200k, unless you go to a piss-poor neighborhood.

Seriously, why is no one mentioning that the average housing costs and other things differ greatly between red and blue states?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: piasabird
Maybe that is becasuse most of the big evil corporations are near the largest cities which are in the Red States???

I will give you an example of what I mean most states that are red have a very large City in them. One example is Illinois which contains Chicago. Generally however the people living in and around Chicago vote, the rest of the state is stuck with going along with that due to how the state has decided to vote their electoral votes which they have allotted.

Another thing to consider is that many of the Red States are in an area where the cost of living and wages are higher.

They most certainly are not in an area where the cost of living is much higher. In my "evil" blue state, you can't find a decent house (3-5 room, 1 bath and maybe half an acre) for under 200k, unless you go to a piss-poor neighborhood.

Seriously, why is no one mentioning that the average housing costs and other things differ greatly between red and blue states?

Good point.

 

[judasmachine]

Fundies give to charity, it's called titheing, it's a tax on the members of the church by the church. Of coarse they give alot.........sheesh god is greedy.