Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

[Atreus21]

I really hope this is some sort of parody.

It's Dave dude.

 

[fskimospy]

They are moving to Chicago to have the privilege of paying $5.00 for gas.

And like $200 for a gallon of milk or whatever his latest claim is.

 

[PokerGuy]

debi told me this morning that family members are packing up and getting out of there.

I don't know who debi is, but I'm guessing her neighbors are thrilled to see her go :thumbsup:

 

[CPA]

I am not surprised.

Wisconites have shown themselves to have no critical thinking skills and they hate America.

debi told me this morning that family members are packing up and getting out of there. They couldn't stand their Republican neighbors and co-workers before all this started and now it's a ton worse.

yeah, I highly doubt that.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

While I believe that campaign spending matters significantly less than most people do (once you pass a minimum threshold), you seem to be claiming that an 8-1 money advantage doesn't matter at all, and that's clearly wrong.

I made no such claim at all. But as another poster asked, when was the last time a commercial or sign by the road made you change your vote?

 

[BoberFett]

I just listed them.
Parents with children want packed class rooms? Really?
Women want probes up their yahoo to satisfy some religious agenda? Really?
Oh well... Like Barney Frank once said, "you can't argue with a dinning room table".

I want my daughter to have a smaller class at school so I took care of it myself and sent her to a private school. Of course I still have to pay property taxes so that other people's little crotch dumplings can go to school...

Some people understand that envy is not the way to get ahead in life. No amount of taxation and redistribution will make you feel better about yourself.

 

[fskimospy]

I made no such claim at all. But as another poster asked, when was the last time a commercial or sign by the road made you change your vote?

Name recognition plays a large role in undecided voters' preferences, particularly low information undecided voters. If you are spending your time commenting on a politics forum, those signs are not meant for you.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I made no such claim at all. But as another poster asked, when was the last time a commercial or sign by the road made you change your vote?

This is like McDonald's. Hardly anyone admits eating there, but they serve a billion burgers a week or whatever.

The influence of money on elections was very noticeable just this year in the Republican primaries. Every time Romney carpet-bombed a state with ads, the polls shifted dramatically in his direction.

It does make a difference.

Name recognition plays a large role in undecided voters' preferences, particularly low information undecided voters. If you are spending your time commenting on a politics forum, those signs are not meant for you.

Also a good point. By definition, we are all "high information voters". The basis upon which many people make these decisions is truly frightening.

 

[Bowfinger]

Oh no, it wasn't the voters. It was the Big Bad Right Wing out-of-state doners! You know, the ones under every liberal's bed who suck up money for a living and rape children in their spare time? Yeah, it's all their fault. Damn commercials diverting the faithful from the true path. Without them we'd have had this in the bag.

Ausm and others, let me ask this: when was the last time a commercial, poster, or little piddly sign in the middle of the highway with a name change your vote for you?

With all due respect, that's an ignorant comment. Advertising, and especially television advertising, is absolutely, unquestionably influential. There is a huge and highly-profitable industry dedicated to delivering its influence, with countless business clients who pay billions of dollars for those well-proven results. If you don't recognize you're being influenced, it only reinforces just how effective it is.

You may be able to argue that Walker wasted his huge financial advantage by buying bad ads, and you could be right. His results strongly suggest otherwise, but I didn't see any of his ads personally so I can't offer first-hand judgment. Even if that was true, all it would show is Walker's campaign was inept, not that television ads aren't effective. When done correctly, they most certainly are. That is a fact.

 

[werepossum]

Leave it to the dysfunctional Democrat districts to report last.

Hey, the Democrat districts can't know how many votes they HAVE until they know how many votes they NEED.

There's a reason Madison was reporting over 100% turnout.

EDIT:

^^

I guess we need to go through our "Bush" years in Wisconsin. I hope I live long enough to see the damage rectified.

You already have. Can you say surplus?

 

[Bowfinger]

I made no such claim at all. But as another poster asked, when was the last time a commercial or sign by the road made you change your vote?

Far more often than you realize or most people can admit. The human brain is wired to rationalize that our decisions are our own, and aren't driven by external manipulation. The wildly successful science of marketing has proven that we're only lying to ourselves.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I am not surprised.

Wisconites have shown themselves to have no critical thinking skills and they hate America.

debi told me this morning that family members are packing up and getting out of there. They couldn't stand their Republican neighbors and co-workers before all this started and now it's a ton worse.

This is great. I voted for Walker, so I am uneducated and hate America according to two lefties here.

Why can't your family (Debi is your wife?) live in the same area as people with different opinions? Just a few houses down from me a neighbor has a Tom Barrett sign. A few more houses from there someone has a Scott Walker sign. My neighborhood is very peaceful, we can get along despite having different opinions. What's the big deal?

 

[fskimospy]

Hey, the Democrat districts can't know how many votes they HAVE until they know how many votes they NEED.

There's a reason Madison was reporting over 100% turnout.

You realize that in high turnout elections with same day registration it's very possible to record over 100% turnout, right?

Please don't play into the voter fraud myth.

 

[EagleKeeper]

So can/will the Democrats try to recall Walker again now that they failed this time or can they only recall once per term?

I think that Walker is up for re-election in 2014. If he wins; sour grapes again and another recall.

 

[werepossum]

I'm betting Xanax sales pick up tremendously today. Assuming of course it can be bought with other people's money.

LMAO! Best line ever.

 

[werepossum]

You realize that in high turnout elections with same day registration it's very possible to record over 100% turnout, right?

Please don't play into the voter fraud myth.

Yes, thus the 100%+ turnout. I also realize that lots of those same day registration voters mysteriously disappear afterward, their registration packets undeliverable. Merely a coincidence worthy of Elizabeth Warren, no doubt.

 

[fskimospy]

You already have. Can you say surplus?

You can also say dead last in the entire country for job creation last year.

I'm sure all that budgetary confidence and regulation cutting is about to unleash a torrent of new jobs any day now though... annnnny day now.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

This is like McDonald's. Hardly anyone admits eating there, but they serve a billion burgers a week or whatever.

The influence of money on elections was very noticeable just this year in the Republican primaries. Every time Romney carpet-bombed a state with ads, the polls shifted dramatically in his direction.

It does make a difference.

Also a good point. By definition, we are all "high information voters". The basis upon which many people make these decisions is truly frightening.

I'd probably agree with this assessment in a presidential election, but the Wisconsin governor recall election is a little harder for me to accept as this has been highly contentious and covered in incredible detail ever since Walker made his decision.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, thus the 100%+ turnout. I also realize that lots of those same day registration voters mysteriously disappear afterward, their registration packets undeliverable. Merely a coincidence worthy of Elizabeth Warren, no doubt.

Oh, are you still trying to perpetuate the myth of in person voter fraud? Some people do love to cling to their fairy tales.

'Facts be damned, I know what I know.'

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Far more often than you realize or most people can admit. The human brain is wired to rationalize that our decisions are our own, and aren't driven by external manipulation. The wildly successful science of marketing has proven that we're only lying to ourselves.

You may be right and I'd probably agree that this applies to presidential elections, but I just have a hard time believing that it played a huge factor in this race given the excessive amount of coverage in the media.

 

[Bowfinger]

You may be right and I'd probably agree that this applies to presidential elections, but I just have a hard time believing that it played a huge factor in this race given the excessive amount of coverage in the media.

I agree, that's a fair point and I'm not from the area. I have no idea what sort of media coverage there was, other than expecting there was a lot of it.

 

[Genx87]

I don't know who debi is, but I'm guessing her neighbors are thrilled to see her go :thumbsup:

Debi must be a democrat state senator.

 

[Atreus21]

I agree, that's a fair point and I'm not from the area. I have no idea what sort of media coverage there was, other than expecting there was a lot of it.

Yeah well you're still wrong.

Mature agreements between ideological opponents are not allowed here. This is your last warning.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I agree, that's a fair point and I'm not from the area. I have no idea what sort of media coverage there was, other than expecting there was a lot of it.

Yep, it's a valid point in this particular case. Pollsters were commenting all along that there were very few undecideds on this issue.

There was a lot of opposition to the recall itself, and I think that if this had been a "scheduled" election with a better Democratic candidate, it would have been a lot closer. If Walker had as much support as the blowhards in this thread are now claiming, there never would have been a recall in the first place.

 

[BoberFett]

Get off on kicking a man when he is down?...Typical Repuglicant.....

Isn't that pretty much all you do around here?

Suck on this Repugs.....

Yep.