Real reasons why there is scant female presence on Anandtech

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Lifer
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Okay so an idea to change the gender makeup of the forum.
Add some fashion forums. :eek:
Could be for like makeup stuff, shoes, umm other stuff. :p

I'm pretty sure that would just make AT creepier, not bring more members of the fairer sex.
 

MrColin

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A snus forum I belong to has more women than AT does. Think about that for a second... A forum devoted to oral tobacco has more women than AT! What are you losers doing wrong? :^D

that made me laugh so hard I almost choked on my tobacco.
 

Cookie

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well if you need someone to drag you to the site its just another reason why there would be less females anyways. its not as guys drag each other to anandtech, it just happens when you are looking up this stuff, certainly women don't have to be dragged to fashion sites.

you might as well wonder why not more men are going to feministe or feministing sites which are really far more sexist and exclusionary than tech sites.

He did not 'drag' me to this site. He introduced me to it. "Check out this funny post!" etc... I would think some guys also came here because they were introduced by a friend. Obviously I have no proof of this. And also.... I have far less interest about fashion than I do about computers. I would certainly need to be 'dragged' to a fashion forum, though I get your point, a lot of women would go there willingly.
 

Rubycon

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I was actually asked to register so the account could be used by someone else to post. They were a long time member here. They never did use the account but I was curious and posted. They later came back, found out and encouraged me to participate and post. Now look what happened! :eek:
 

MrColin

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If you are reading this thread, I think you will appreciate the movie "talhotblond" it blew my mind. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1370889/

The fact that its a tech forum, and the high density of emotionally disturbed leg-humpers and misogynists probably doesn't attract many women to these forums. If I were a woman here, you would never know it.
 

Wag

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It's because the nerd/geek gene isn't as present in females as it is in males.
 

LumbergTech

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If you are reading this thread, I think you will appreciate the movie "talhotblond" it blew my mind. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1370889/

The fact that its a tech forum, and the high density of emotionally disturbed leg-humpers and misogynists probably doesn't attract many women to these forums. If I were a woman here, you would never know it.

yea...some of the shit i read on here makes me cringe...

there are some really sick minded people hanging around on here
 

gaidensensei

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How do you guys figure?

I mean other than like a handful off the top of my head, that's all of the wackos I can think of. Surely it sounds exaggerated or I need to rub my eyes some more.

It's a given though, sociological theory related to population deviance will say that in any community there is always some form of deviance one kind or another.

The BIGGESt thing I would say is still the people who click and read threads without saying anything, that's the userbase you want posting. Look at all the replies and views of this thread as of right now.

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We have over 12 times read per response, if even every single member who posted in here read the thread twice (I'm not sure if it counts visits from the same ips) it's still 1700 off from the reads.
 
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Rubycon

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If I were a woman here, you would never know it.

Indeed. If I started over I would not even bring up gender at all. The only reason why a big deal is made about things I discuss or answers to questions is because I'm female.

If people that feel that way got around more they'd realize that there are plenty of women in highly technical skilled positions everywhere.
 

Terzo

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I actually prefer the "chan" mentality in matters like this; that is maintaining anonymity on the internet.
What difference does it really make whether a post comes from a man, woman, whitey, black, asian, or all of the above? I'm sure it matters in L&R, but I don't see it making much of a difference in our other forums.
When a poster remains anonymous I can only judge them based on post content. When I start learning things like whether they are a man or woman, black or white, kiwi or canadian, then prejudices will come into play whether I want them to or not.

Tying posts to an online identity (username) has benefits and drawbacks. Over time you learn to trust the opinions of some (Zap, Engineer, Blain, and xtnight come to mind). You also learn who the trolls are (flyingpig and harcadio, god bless them). But you may learn information that leads to bias or prejudice. For example, it's not uncommon to see reference to Gayner or Godless' kiwi status in threads, even when it really has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

In short, I think the less you say about yourself the more people have to judge you based on your words. Perhaps we have a larger amount of female posters who rightly leave that out since the information doesn't really matter.

On the flip side, I realize that building a community will be harder when you don't have an identity.

To wrap things up I'll pose a question to the OP (or others if they want to chime in); Would anandtech be any different if there was a larger amount of female posters? Perhaps in L&R, but in many of the other subforums gender doesn't really matter (i.e. discussing dual core vs quad core, amd vs nvidia, consoles vs pc, etc.).
 

gaidensensei

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I've never watched activity at a female-dominated forum but that last bit from Terzo, I can't picture playgirl and underwear men photos around in threads, that would be really awkward to see around here.

Kinda like a bizzarro world eh? Like Bizarro Superman. Superman's exact opposite, who lives in the backwards bizarro world. "Up is down", and down is up. He says "Hello" when he leaves, "Good bye" when he arrives.
 

Terzo

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Indeed. If I started over I would not even bring up gender at all. The only reason why a big deal is made about things I discuss or answers to questions is because I'm female.

If people that feel that way got around more they'd realize that there are plenty of women in highly technical skilled positions everywhere.

That's probably true but (at least in my mind) you have a reputation for being a technological genius, similar to YoYo. I've learned that with certain posters the subjects they cover are way too indepth for me to understand, so I generally don't bother.
I don't think I'm smart enough (or experienced, whatever) to keep up with many of the people here. That's why most of my posts are in the social subforums; in terms of the technology I don't know much more than how to assemble a computer. I doubt I'd be able to give valuable advice with regards to memory timings, sequential/random reads/writes, or video cards suitable for high resolution gaming.
All I can offer are my musings.
 

Terzo

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I've never watched activity at a female-dominated forum but that last bit from Terzo, I can't picture playgirl and underwear men photos around in threads, that would be really awkward to see around here.

Well we don't get "babe threads" as is. I'm pretty sure that's limited to L&R, which is its own beast as far as I'm concerned.
 

shopbruin

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So I first arrived here due to hot deals - I was a freshman in college, and my (female) friend helped me find a deal by pointing out a link here. I didn't actually register until months later.

I stick around here because I think the conversations are interesting, but I'm somewhat tomboyish when it comes to topics, which I attribute my husband. I like the wide variety of posters, and that you're from all over the country and the world.

I can easily see why women don't stick around. A lot of the members here think they are a lot funnier than they actually are, and it is grating to have to read requests for "pics" or "shens" or "make me a sammich" if you can't easily shake it off. Like I said, I don't care but I also don't post a lot. I just read a lot. Most of you are entertaining. :p
 

gaidensensei

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This is OT tho, you know it. It's a complete different forum from the other categories. Maybe it was related back in 1999-2000 with people posting hardware off topic jokes, but it doesn't run here today. In fact I think most of the posters in OT don't have an up to date machine, they're a few generations behind.

Plus OT could always use more post content. It keeps the opinions (if there are new ones) fresh and I don't have to read the same people taking the same stance again. Like a ******* thread for a direct example, I don't have to click it to know that pic is going to be in the thread.

But in terms of posts and social threads by Hayabusa, Ruby, Jeebus, more to name or others I know there is some value to the overall off-topic discussion. Like yoyo's engineering thread, I always read every new one but I can't participate because I don't think I have what it takes. I assume this is the same content that goes on in highly technical threads "How much improvement will I get with 4 sli over 2" where only a selected few have the real answer to that.

* = used to protect the innocent.
 

artikk

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The major reason has been already covered being that most females aren't interested in the computer/tech focus that AT has.
The secondary reasons(that have also been covered) are the constant attacks on new members, troll attempts, etc. Those intermittent patterns aren't as important to why women don't post on here because one can find trolls all over the web in every forum. The demographic here may be different but the pattern is still the same.
The problem I see, though, somewhat related to the thread topic, is the people that do post repeatedly either attack other posters or just try to make a joke out of every post, either theirs or those of others. The lack of respect is evident and probably impossible to fix since this is the internet we're talking about here, even with moderation.
You may think I'm taking this too seriously, but the 'verbal diarrhea' that constitutes 70-80% of ATOT posts becomes annoying and just tedious after a certain period.
 

bommy261

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because a girls place is in the kitchen making me sammiches. she couldn't figure out a computer anyways ;)