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Macamus Prime said:
The inbred American white trash that is afraid of an African American as President of the United States of America are pretty big.

So big, that guns sales went up after he won: http://articles.cnn.com/2008-11-11/...gun-shop-brady-campaign-gun-owner?_s=PM:CRIME

Where they all afraid he was going to show up personally? Or send members of the Black Panthers in to get them all?

Also, there are considerable amount of double standards on these boards. I noticed how you don't seem to go after them, when they slam Obama,...
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Gun sales go up whenever they feel a person in power may do something about gun control. Not anything to do with racist hate-filled intentions.

You seem pretty intolerant of central/southern USA white people though...

Free your heart of hate for them and watch your quality of life improve, and your blood pressure drop.
 
momeNt said:
You seem pretty intolerant of central/southern USA white people though...
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This deserves it's own post/reply. I am intolerant of central/southern USA white racists. Not all people from that part of America are racists.

The ones that are racist, love to sling racist words every chance they get - as if they are superior to the African Americans, Hispanics and Arabs - yet, they themselves are slack jawed, drawling, red neck sacks of human garbage.

Those, I am intolerant of. Heck, even if they were refined in the use and pronounciation of the English language and didn't sound like a one line extra from Hee-Haw, I would still be intolerant of them.

There is no excuse for racism. What is worse, intolerant white racists from central/southern USA are no "better" than the very people they hate and fear.
 
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Macamus Prime said:
This deserves it's own post/reply. I am intolerant of central/southern USA white racists. Not all people from that part of America are racists.

The ones that are racist, love to sling racist words every chance they get - as if they are superior to the African Americans, Hispanics and Arabs - yet, they themselves are slack jawed, drawling, red neck sacks of human garbage.

Those, I am intolerant of. Heck, even if they were refined in the use and pronounciation of language and didn't sound like a one line extra from Hee-Haw, I would still be intolerant of them.

There is no excuse for racism. What is worse, intolerant white racists from central/southern USA are no "better" than the very people they hate and fear.
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So be intolerant of racists, because there are many of the, as you say, "slack jawed, drawling, red neck" people in those area that aren't racists, and it seems as if you may not care much for them either. Them being racist should be enough of a damning evaluation of who they are, don't bring in qualities of people who aren't racist into your evaluation, it leads to bigotry.
 
Macamus Prime said:
There is no excuse for racism. What is worse, intolerant white racists from central/southern USA are no "better" than the very people they hate and fear.
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So you're ok with the racism from the northern, eastern and western states. We all know you are a bigot, just stop pretending and we'll think much better of you.
 
momeNt said:
So be intolerant of racists, because there are many of the, as you say, "slack jawed, drawling, red neck" people in those area that aren't racists, and it seems as if you may not care much for them either. Them being racist should be enough of a damning evaluation of who they are, don't bring in qualities of people who aren't racist into your evaluation, it leads to bigotry.
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Slack jawed, drawling, red neck != everyone in the South. When a Southern person starts getting offensive, then yes, they are slack jawed, drawling red neck slime.

Another example; not all conservatives are scum bags. Some conservatives practice understanding of the human condition, but still stick to their morals. But, when a conservative starts being a hypocrite, they are scum bags.

The offending party becomes that which is most offensive to him/her.

A Southern accent is just fine. In fact, "the drawl" represents the majority of the American accent. There is nothing wrong with that. I think it's just fine. Beautiful in some cases.

But, when someone with that drawl, starts spewing hate and anger, they are called whatever is most offensive to them.
 
Marijuana needs to be legalized, it costs us too much money to enforce the ban, and too much money is funneled into black markets because there is such a demand for the herb.

Stop trying to legislate choices we make in our lives!
 
xj0hnx said:
So you're ok with the racism from the northern, eastern and western states. We all know you are a bigot, just stop pretending and we'll think much better of you.
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Most of the P&N fingermen cast out sweeping generalizations toward ethnics.

I offend the P&N fingerman/men in any manner that will "harm" them most. So, there is no reason to think much better of me, when I am out to essentially draw blood. Even if you support voilators being voilated (which is what I do).

More importantly - it's towards them and only them. Not every person from the South. Your typical offensive terms in describing a Southern American are used to indeed offend them. Again, them as in the racist fingerman.

When some of these clowns post and support double standards, one sided views and comments that are offensive towards ethnics - do they honestly expect someone like me to sit back and allow them to slur and spew hate?

Please tell me you honestly don't feel it's OK for a Southerner to support double standards, one sided views and comments that are offensive towards ethnics,....
 
Macamus Prime said:
Please tell me you honestly don't feel it's OK for a Southerner to support double standards, one sided views and comments that are offensive towards ethnics,....
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I don't give a shit what someone wants to believe. Being the thought police isn't my job. Then again, I actually support freedom, not just the freedom I think people should have. On topic I am for legalizing ALL drugs, not just pot, but coke, crack, heroin, whatever. Reason being, like not being the though police, I am not the health police, I don't care at all if someone wants to sit in their house, smoking dope, shooting tar, smoking crack, it's not my business. Also, I don't believe our system has done ANYTHING to stop it anyway, other than throw good money after bad, in all aspects of the Drug War™, and I don't believe that legalizing all drugs tomorrow is going to open up a Pandora's box of children doing drugs, or that people are just going to go out and start smoking crack because "well there's no law that says I can't".
 
xj0hnx said:
I don't give a shit what someone wants to believe. Being the thought police isn't my job. Then again, I actually support freedom, not just the freedom I think people should have. On topic I am for legalizing ALL drugs, not just pot, but coke, crack, heroin, whatever. Reason being, like not being the though police, I am not the health police, I don't care at all if someone wants to sit in their house, smoking dope, shooting tar, smoking crack, it's not my business. Also, I don't believe our system has done ANYTHING to stop it anyway, other than throw good money after bad, in all aspects of the Drug War™, and I don't believe that legalizing all drugs tomorrow is going to open up a Pandora's box of children doing drugs, or that people are just going to go out and start smoking crack because "well there's no law that says I can't".
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So true.

Consider if suddenly our government decided to outlaw masturbating, saying it was a gateway to unconventional sex, not just gay sex but animals, gangbangs, swinging, etc.

The only thing it would end up doing is just deter people from masturbating outside, because then they could get caught by the authorities, won't stop jack at home.
 
xj0hnx said:
,... and I don't believe that legalizing all drugs tomorrow is going to open up a Pandora's box of children doing drugs, or that people are just going to go out and start smoking crack because "well there's no law that says I can't".
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It will stop the power vaccums that occur in the drug trade world when a drug lord get taken down after he attempts to grab more territory.

So, innocent people getting shot, homes invaded and having to call in the US Army to stop them will not be needed.

Ever see a police station shot up, homes invaded and innocent bystanders get killed over cigarettes or booze? If they were illegal, yes you probably would.
 
TechBoyJK said:
Lately, via youtube videos and town hall meetings, Obama has been routinely getting asked "why can't we legalize marijuana"

I was thinking it would be better to pose the question:

"With tobacco and alcohol killings hundreds of thousands each year by health complications, accidents, etc. and in comparison, marijuana doesn't kill anybody and is now known to be relatively safe in comparison, why is it that tobacco and alcohol are legal, regulated, and taxed products while yet marijuana remains illegal causing massive stress on our judicial and law enforcement systems and costing tax payers billions of dollars in enforcement costs? I would predict that any logic you will use to justify tobacco and alcohol's legality can be applied to marijuana."

I guess.. rather than posing the question to have him justify marijuana's illegality, have him justify alcohol and tobacco's legality.
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That's a good idea.. However, I saw a video from the past few days where he sorta dodged the question, so I don't think he would answer anyhow.

It's one of those things that just shows you who makes our laws. You have enough tobacco & alcohol lobbyists lining the pockets of candidates and they're in a position where they feel they can't honestly answer the question.

As of right now, there is not a single argument against legalizing marijuana so long as alcohol and tobacco are both legal. Go watch Reefer Madness and no matter what side of the issue you're on, you can agree it's ridiculous and that's why marijuana is illegal anyhow... because of lies and propaganda.
 
momeNt said:
So true.

Consider if suddenly our government decided to outlaw masturbating, saying it was a gateway to unconventional sex, not just gay sex but animals, gangbangs, swinging, etc.

The only thing it would end up doing is just deter people from masturbating outside, because then they could get caught by the authorities, won't stop jack at home.
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no they'd just chase the white rabbit down the hole and try preventing the sale of all lube just because someone might jerk with it at home.. just like they outlaw pot because people might smoke it.
 
momeNt said:
So true.

Consider if suddenly our government decided to outlaw masturbating, saying it was a gateway to unconventional sex, not just gay sex but animals, gangbangs, swinging, etc.

The only thing it would end up doing is just deter people from masturbating outside, because then they could get caught by the authorities, won't stop jack at home.
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Yip. I really hate when people try the old "we can't legalize drugs because then kids will do drugs", omg if I had a dollar for every time I heard that bullshit the left would be making threads about my rich ass needing to pay more taxes. Two points to that claim A) Kids are already doing drugs, B) Drugs are easier for kids to get than booze. These two aren't opinions that are statements of fact, facts that are conveniently ignored by anti-drug zealots. Tax them, regulate them, ID for their purchase, police their use on the roads like we do alcohol, = profit.
 
TechBoyJK said:
no they'd just chase the white rabbit down the hole and try preventing the sale of all lube just because someone might jerk with it at home.. just like they outlaw pot because people might smoke it.
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More accurately they would regulate/eliminate the sale of lube because like allergy medicine someone might make meth with it.
 
Macamus Prime said:
It will stop the power vaccums that occur in the drug trade world when a drug lord get taken down after he attempts to grab more territory.

So, innocent people getting shot, homes invaded and having to call in the US Army to stop them will not be needed.

Ever see a police station shot up, homes invaded and innocent bystanders get killed over cigarettes or booze? If they were illegal, yes you probably would.
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There's really no time for a vacuum to form as when one is taken down, the hundred waiting immediately fill the void.

Obviously there's still going to be crime if drugs were legal, but the wars over drug routes would be a thing of the past. It boggles the mind that people either don't realize, or refuse to realize that the hardcore violence isn't because of the drugs, it's because of the drug trade.
 
xj0hnx said:
More accurately they would regulate/eliminate the sale of lube because like allergy medicine someone might make meth with it.
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Yea, they'll also start circumcising babies to stop them from jerking it... oh wait. The unintended consequence of that was it made it a lot more clean to bareback anal, take that Dr. Kellogg, you made the majority (declining) number of american males sodomizers!
 
xj0hnx said:
I don't give a shit what someone wants to believe. Being the thought police isn't my job. Then again, I actually support freedom, not just the freedom I think people should have. On topic I am for legalizing ALL drugs, not just pot, but coke, crack, heroin, whatever. Reason being, like not being the though police, I am not the health police, I don't care at all if someone wants to sit in their house, smoking dope, shooting tar, smoking crack, it's not my business. Also, I don't believe our system has done ANYTHING to stop it anyway, other than throw good money after bad, in all aspects of the Drug War™, and I don't believe that legalizing all drugs tomorrow is going to open up a Pandora's box of children doing drugs, or that people are just going to go out and start smoking crack because "well there's no law that says I can't".
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I'm with you. I think everything should be legal and all problems can be solved through education.
 
bfdd said:
I'm with you. I think everything should be legal and all problems can be solved through education.
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I'm sure that some of the money from alcohol taxes are used to promote awareness of not drinking and driving and pay for the billboards that post what the legal blood alcohol content is and etc.

Something similar would need to be done for any newly legalized drug.
 
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