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1) IT is not the same as CS. If was to be mean, I would say IT is a watered-down version of CS combined with some watered-down courses in management. These types of positions were in demand when Comp. Sci. graduates couldn't be relied upon to string together a coherent sentence in front of a crowd or relate well with others outside his immediate group of peers (read: geeks). This has changed.
We, of CS, no longer need you, the ITers. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy has healed our wardrobe, and our acne has vanished all on its own. Your lack of depth in your CS education will soon - if not already - be revealed, and our consolidation over your domain will begin. We, of CS, have become self-sufficient. Pack your bags.
2) MIS is not the same as CS. MIS isn't even a degree. MIS students are guys who learned how to design and program a database and added some courses in accounting, finance and management to try and round out the equation. That's what, 16 credits tops? What the hell did you do in your 2nd, 3rd and 4th year of studies?
3) CIS is respectable. CIS majors generally design and maintain information systems for organizations. This is not strictly CS territory, so we grant you some level of association with us. We do however request your support in pitching our next-gen database systems so the world can be rid of COBOL once and for all.
4) CE is not the same as CS. We of CS have no real qualms with our distant cousins, the engineers. We would however like to remind you that a good CS degree nets you just as much as a good CE degree, and that engineering is completely different from science. Not better, merely different. Keep yourselves grounded, CEers.
5) Your momma's sister's best friend's son with a barely average IQ who certified with a MCSE and A+ is not making $60k+ a year, he's unemployed and living at home...again. The tech bubble came and went and relied upon a state of mass insanity. People have now regained their senses, and with them the realization that there is no need to pay someone mid to high five figures just because they can splice Cat5 cable and swap expansion cards out of systems. Don't complain there are no jobs out there, this is a misnomer you are helping to spread. Just get some real marketable skills.
6) The greatest thing about our society is that if you are good at what you do, then no matter what you do, there is a reasonably well paying job out there with your name on it. Don't blame the economy, blame yourself.
7) Help desk work is not CS. Companies will, and have, trained chimps to man help desks in the past. Help desk is to CS as secretaries are to management. You can replace "help desk" with "technician" or "hardware/software product support" as needed. Real CS has nothing to do with these vocations.
8) Don't bother worrying over how to reply to, "Aren't you worried about your jobs going overseas?" They aren't our jobs.
To elaborate: The extent of globalization is such that whatever can be exported overseas to be done cheaper will be exported, regardless of type of work. Manufacturing's already gone, low-level tech support is being hit next. Law majors watch out, legal filings to become a corporation/LLC might be next! After all it doesn't take an incredible amount of brainwork and they can simply mail you with the documents you need, am I right?
Companies will slowly but surely apply this strategy to every facet of our economy. You can fight globalization (fruitless IMO), or you can become an indispensible. Use your intelligence. We're either all in trouble, or in not very much trouble at all.
-- yllus (2004)
We, of CS, no longer need you, the ITers. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy has healed our wardrobe, and our acne has vanished all on its own. Your lack of depth in your CS education will soon - if not already - be revealed, and our consolidation over your domain will begin. We, of CS, have become self-sufficient. Pack your bags.
2) MIS is not the same as CS. MIS isn't even a degree. MIS students are guys who learned how to design and program a database and added some courses in accounting, finance and management to try and round out the equation. That's what, 16 credits tops? What the hell did you do in your 2nd, 3rd and 4th year of studies?
3) CIS is respectable. CIS majors generally design and maintain information systems for organizations. This is not strictly CS territory, so we grant you some level of association with us. We do however request your support in pitching our next-gen database systems so the world can be rid of COBOL once and for all.
4) CE is not the same as CS. We of CS have no real qualms with our distant cousins, the engineers. We would however like to remind you that a good CS degree nets you just as much as a good CE degree, and that engineering is completely different from science. Not better, merely different. Keep yourselves grounded, CEers.
5) Your momma's sister's best friend's son with a barely average IQ who certified with a MCSE and A+ is not making $60k+ a year, he's unemployed and living at home...again. The tech bubble came and went and relied upon a state of mass insanity. People have now regained their senses, and with them the realization that there is no need to pay someone mid to high five figures just because they can splice Cat5 cable and swap expansion cards out of systems. Don't complain there are no jobs out there, this is a misnomer you are helping to spread. Just get some real marketable skills.
6) The greatest thing about our society is that if you are good at what you do, then no matter what you do, there is a reasonably well paying job out there with your name on it. Don't blame the economy, blame yourself.
7) Help desk work is not CS. Companies will, and have, trained chimps to man help desks in the past. Help desk is to CS as secretaries are to management. You can replace "help desk" with "technician" or "hardware/software product support" as needed. Real CS has nothing to do with these vocations.
8) Don't bother worrying over how to reply to, "Aren't you worried about your jobs going overseas?" They aren't our jobs.
To elaborate: The extent of globalization is such that whatever can be exported overseas to be done cheaper will be exported, regardless of type of work. Manufacturing's already gone, low-level tech support is being hit next. Law majors watch out, legal filings to become a corporation/LLC might be next! After all it doesn't take an incredible amount of brainwork and they can simply mail you with the documents you need, am I right?
Companies will slowly but surely apply this strategy to every facet of our economy. You can fight globalization (fruitless IMO), or you can become an indispensible. Use your intelligence. We're either all in trouble, or in not very much trouble at all.
-- yllus (2004)
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