Rainbow Six Vegas

[pcslookout]

Does this game really strain even the Geforce 8800 video cards with 4x FSAA and 16x AF on ?

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2979&p=7

I can't believe how much of a strain this game puts on even the fastest video card out there with even no FSAA or AF enabled.

 

[CP5670]

It's just badly programmed. The graphics don't justify that kind of performance at all.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: CP5670
It's just badly programmed. The graphics don't justify that kind of performance at all.

That sucks. Lets hope that new game made by makers of Far Cry isn't like this. So there is no way to fix it so you can play at 1680x1050 with 4x FSAA and 16x AF ? Right now I get 3 to 4 fps with all details on high, 1680x1050 resolution, 4x FSAA, and 16x AF. For some reason I was able to get 30 to 40 fps + but not anymore. It was only for a moment though. Can't get it to happen again. After I started moving away from a wall to a huge area with all kind of broken cars, water fortain , etc it started slowing down to 3 to 4 fps again never returning to 30 to 40 fps + like it had before when turned toward a wall and not a large area full of broken down cars.

 

[bamacre]

Actually Crysis is going to be extremely demanding, and you won't be able to play it will all settings on high and with AA/AF.

But it won't be because of bad programming.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Actually Crysis is going to be extremely demanding, and you won't be able to play it will all settings on high and with AA/AF.

But it won't be because of bad programming.

So basically it will be like Doom 3 was when it first came out? I can remember back then when Doom 3 came out I wanted so badly to be able to play it smoothly on my system but couldn't and even the highest end system couldn't with 4x FSAA and 16AF like it can today!

Doors opening would freeze the doom 3 scene for a scene! Not anymore in today's gaming world! So I guess it will take 1 to 2 years after Crysis comes out where you can buy a pretty high end gaming card or the highest end one from $299 to $700 to be able to play Crysis at 1680x1050 with all details on high, 4x FSAA, and 16x AF.

Jesus what are people going to do that have a 30 inch Dell lcd ? They have to play at like a huge resolution :Q

 

[hdeck]

the developers are saying it will take 15 (or maybe it was 18) months for computer hardware to catch up w/ crysis after it's release

 

[pcslookout]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: hdeck
the developers are saying it will take 15 (or maybe it was 18) months for computer hardware to catch up w/ crysis after it's release</end quote></div>

Yep just like Doom 3.

640x480 Crysis gaming, even on a Geforce 8800 Ultra SLI video cards, here I come! Feels just like the doom 3 days when it first came out.

I never really did play doom 3 much because I didn't want to ruin the game by playing it all without waiting a few months or years to be able to play it new with all details on high, 4x FSAA, 16x AF. That way its fresh and its not like rewatching a movie.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: hdeck
the developers are saying it will take 15 (or maybe it was 18) months for computer hardware to catch up w/ crysis after it's release

So how do they expect to make any money off of the game when it is first released if no one can play it in all of its glory ? What about people on 30" lcd monitors ?

LCD monitors really suck when it comes to new games. You can't go to a lower resolution without it looks ugly on a lcd.

 

[Cellulose]

Might as well buy Crysis later with a reduce in Dx10 cards and Vista prices...

 

[Cheex]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: pcslookout
So how do they expect to make any money off of the game when it is first released if no one can play it in all of its glory ? What about people on 30" lcd monitors ?

LCD monitors really suck when it comes to new games. You can't go to a lower resolution without it looks ugly on a lcd.</end quote></div>

How? I'll tell you how...

Everybody is going to buy it anyway!!!
(me included)

It is just a GREAT game!!

 

[Cellulose]

Originally posted by: Cheex
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: pcslookout
So how do they expect to make any money off of the game when it is first released if no one can play it in all of its glory ? What about people on 30" lcd monitors ?

LCD monitors really suck when it comes to new games. You can't go to a lower resolution without it looks ugly on a lcd.</end quote></div>

How? I'll tell you how...

Everybody is going to buy it anyway!!!
(me included)

It is just a GREAT game!!

It's not even out - might suck for all you know :shocked:

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Cheex
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: pcslookout
So how do they expect to make any money off of the game when it is first released if no one can play it in all of its glory ? What about people on 30" lcd monitors ?

LCD monitors really suck when it comes to new games. You can't go to a lower resolution without it looks ugly on a lcd.</end quote></div>

How? I'll tell you how...

Everybody is going to buy it anyway!!!
(me included)

It is just a GREAT game!!

Question, at what resolution do you plan on playing it at ?

 

[bamacre]

I imagine with an E6600, 2GB, and an 8800 GTX, and Vista, you will be able to play the game at 16x12 (or 16x10 for widescreen) with most settings on medium/high, no AA/AF. Again, that is an assumption based on what I have read.

The game is going to have capabilites, like SM4, that will take future video cards to run or "turn on."

Remember, when Far Cry was released, no system at stock speeds at least could run the game at 16x12 with high settings and AA/AF. And even later they added SM 3.0 which was even more demanding. The game still looked great at release, and I enjoyed playing through it at 10x7 with a 128MB ti4200.

Don't worry, if you have new, high-end hardware, Crysis will look great at release, even if you can't play it at "max" settings.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I imagine with an E6600, 2GB, and an 8800 GTX, and Vista, you will be able to play the game at 16x12 (or 16x10 for widescreen) with most settings on medium/high, no AA/AF. Again, that is an assumption based on what I have read.

The game is going to have capabilites, like SM4, that will take future video cards to run or "turn on."

Remember, when Far Cry was released, no system at stock speeds at least could run the game at 16x12 with high settings and AA/AF. And even later they added SM 3.0 which was even more demanding. The game still looked great at release, and I enjoyed playing through it at 10x7 with a 128MB ti4200.

Don't worry, if you have new, high-end hardware, Crysis will look great at release, even if you can't play it at "max" settings.

That would be nice. I bet if you have SLI 8800 GTX or Ultra video cards you will be able to play Cyris with 4x FSAA and 16x AF with maximum settings on everything!

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: pcslookout
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bamacre
I imagine with an E6600, 2GB, and an 8800 GTX, and Vista, you will be able to play the game at 16x12 (or 16x10 for widescreen) with most settings on medium/high, no AA/AF. Again, that is an assumption based on what I have read.

The game is going to have capabilites, like SM4, that will take future video cards to run or "turn on."

Remember, when Far Cry was released, no system at stock speeds at least could run the game at 16x12 with high settings and AA/AF. And even later they added SM 3.0 which was even more demanding. The game still looked great at release, and I enjoyed playing through it at 10x7 with a 128MB ti4200.

Don't worry, if you have new, high-end hardware, Crysis will look great at release, even if you can't play it at "max" settings.</end quote></div>

That would be nice. I bet if you have SLI 8800 GTX or Ultra video cards you will be able to play Cyris with 4x FSAA and 16x AF with maximum settings on everything!

Considering what I have read, that's not likely to be possible.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: bamacre
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: pcslookout
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bamacre
I imagine with an E6600, 2GB, and an 8800 GTX, and Vista, you will be able to play the game at 16x12 (or 16x10 for widescreen) with most settings on medium/high, no AA/AF. Again, that is an assumption based on what I have read.

The game is going to have capabilites, like SM4, that will take future video cards to run or "turn on."

Remember, when Far Cry was released, no system at stock speeds at least could run the game at 16x12 with high settings and AA/AF. And even later they added SM 3.0 which was even more demanding. The game still looked great at release, and I enjoyed playing through it at 10x7 with a 128MB ti4200.

Don't worry, if you have new, high-end hardware, Crysis will look great at release, even if you can't play it at "max" settings.</end quote></div>

That would be nice. I bet if you have SLI 8800 GTX or Ultra video cards you will be able to play Cyris with 4x FSAA and 16x AF with maximum settings on everything!</end quote></div>


Considering what I have read, that's not likely to be possible.

Wow! Is this because SLI won't work in Crysis or because the game is that demanding ?

 

[bamacre]

I'm sure SLI will work with Crysis. Cytek has said that it'll be 18 months before hardware catches up to the full potential of Crysis.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I'm sure SLI will work with Crysis. Cytek has said that it'll be 18 months before hardware catches up to the full potential of Crysis.

Then I guess SLI will to be slow as well. To bad you can't do Quad video cards with the Geforce 8800 Ultra!

I didn't think Crysis would be that demanding. If it really is we may all need new pcs to run it in its full glory.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Crysis will strain video cards... But keep in mind, many devs have built future proof engines (sort of). I believe Oblivion was built to accomodate future video cards. EQ2 as well... But every game that attempted to do it hasn't done it that well. I suppose I should qualify that statement. Yes, the game looks better the higher you turn the details, but you have severe diminishing returns. In other words, EQ2 at 1/2 settings looks great and runs great, jack all the sliders up to max and your framerate will tank 300%... Does the game look three times as good? No, not at all... It looks better, marginally.

That is my take on the way Crysis will be. I think when the game debuts It will look absolutely stunning on the current hardware (8800GTX) and will run even better on the next generation (G9X), but I don't think the game will be leaps and bounds better on the third gen... You might get smoother framerate with a lot more AA, which does make things look a lot better, but I think that whole "potential" thingy is just hype.

Doom3, Far Cry and HL2 all great to this day, but they are aging and I don't think anyone can say that Doom3 looks far greater today than it did when it came out. In fact, the visual different from Q to UQ mode is unoticeable by myself... Maybe one of those graphics nazi's can see it though.

 

[Jules]

I couldn't get over how much the Xbox 360 Version pwns the Pc version.

 

[pcslookout]

It must run smoother at least. I can't believe this game is ported so badly.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
I couldn't get over how much the Xbox 360 Version pwns the Pc version.

i don't doubt it. console --> PC ports are typically very poorly done

 

[Noema]

I just pray to the flying spaghetti monster that Bioshock runs well on PCs, and doesn't end up being another Rainbow 6 Vegas...a
game evidently made for Xbox 360 and then ported as an afterthought to make some extra cash.

 

[TehMac]

That's the beauty of these games. Their replayability isn't gameplay, it's coming back a year later with new hardware and owning the game's graphics.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Actually Crysis is going to be extremely demanding, and you won't be able to play it will all settings on high and with AA/AF.

But it won't be because of bad programming.

Why don't we wait until we have the game and see. I hate all this speculation garbage.