Radeon R9 290x QUADFIRE (Hell yeah)

[Arkaign]

You could go dual Titan Z + nitrogen?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1265543/the-amd-how-to-thread

PSU Problems

Recently I had a problem with my psu, the 3.3v rail was dropping down 3.2v or less for no reason. It also impacted my eyefinity setup, the rig would drop out of eyefinity when overclocked within 5 minutes. It took a few days of ignoring it then a few days of actual diagnosis which came up with nothing. I was about to pull my hair out when I remembered about my sleeved extensions. I swapped them out and used the stock cables. Voila, it works again. The 3.3v rail is now putting out 3.3v or better and eyefinity with max overclocks works w/o a hitch. If you are experiencing similar issues, remember to check your cables.

Karlitos you said you tested your PSU earlier in the trhead, but did you test and ignore for even a 0.1v drop on it because it seem so trivial? I was just skimming OCN and saw this and thought of your issues.

 

[KaRLiToS]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1265543/the-amd-how-to-thread


Karlitos you said you tested your PSU earlier in the trhead, but did you test and ignore for even a 0.1v drop on it because it seem so trivial? I was just skimming OCN and saw this and thought of your issues.

Thanks for mentionning.

But I tested the PSU with a multimeter and the 3.3v rail was like 3.35v.

Also, the 3.3v can go down to 3.2v with no harm to the system or PSU. Check this table explaining the tolerances of differents rail voltages.

Also, I can run my CPU @ 5Ghz with memory at 2400mhz and with Quad 290x overclocked at 1250mhz/1650mhz and bench on a single monitor, while I cannot run my system at stock and TWO x 290x at stock on the display port output.

So clearly, it is not a PSU issue. :|

You could go dual Titan Z + nitrogen?

Hahaha, I will not encourage Nvidia price gouging.

 

[King4x4]

Oh karlitos.... Fired up BF4 today for a quick game... Third screen died on me... Tried again... again it died on me... went.. WT?

Tried 3 different adapters (one even with the old firmware) and they all died on me... Switched to trifire and everything went smooth as butter... Seriously debating selling one of my gpus now... Quadfire is broken for general use unless you are a bencher.

TLR... got the same issue as karlitos even though I went for months without it.

So now I just ordered a nice fat 3440x1440 screen and gonna dismantle my eyefinity setup... 290xs are juicy but they are bugged at the extreme range.

 

[SolMiester]

Very cool to see this level of support from Sam and AMD :thumbsup:

TBH, how could they not...Such a big forum and thread on this subject would only be detrimental if left unresolved...

 

[chimaxi83]

TBH, how could they not...Such a big forum and thread on this subject would only be detrimental if left unresolved...

Lol. This thread gets as much attention as any other AMD/Nvidia thread on this forum.

However, I see what you're trying to do there, so I won't feed you bro D:

 

[SolMiester]

Lol. This thread gets as much attention as any other AMD/Nvidia thread on this forum.

However, I see what you're trying to do there, so I won't feed you bro D:

I dont see any other 4 x GPU thread in here with this much attention, or continued issue...
Your last sentence however, must be bait, but dont worry, I wont bite!..

 

[KaRLiToS]

Oh karlitos.... Fired up BF4 today for a quick game... Third screen died on me... Tried again... again it died on me... went.. WT?

Tried 3 different adapters (one even with the old firmware) and they all died on me... Switched to trifire and everything went smooth as butter... Seriously debating selling one of my gpus now... Quadfire is broken for general use unless you are a bencher.

TLR... got the same issue as karlitos even though I went for months without it.

So now I just ordered a nice fat 3440x1440 screen and gonna dismantle my eyefinity setup... 290xs are juicy but they are bugged at the extreme range.

That sucks, King

But I don't think its the same issue as mine, because I get it even on CrossFire, it only works on single card in my case.

How much have you paid for the 3440x1440, I'm also tempted if the adapter doesn't work. And where did you get it, that resolution is not available yet in Canada.

 

[Rvenger]

I dont see any other 4 x GPU thread in here with this much attention, or continued issue...
Your last sentence however, must be bait, but dont worry, I wont bite!..

Lol. This thread gets as much attention as any other AMD/Nvidia thread on this forum.

However, I see what you're trying to do there, so I won't feed you bro

Both of you, stop with the bickering, now.

-Moderator Rvenger

 

[King4x4]

That sucks, King

But I don't think its the same issue as mine, because I get it even on CrossFire, it only works on single card in my case.

How much have you paid for the 3440x1440, I'm also tempted if the adapter doesn't work. And where did you get it, that resolution is not available yet in Canada.

Pre-ordered from computeruniverse.com for about 1100$ shipped.

 

[KaRLiToS]

Pre-ordered from computeruniverse.com for about 1100$ shipped.

Is it 60hz or 120hz? Probably 60hz?

Which output on your card will you use for that?

 

[King4x4]

DP and its 60hz.. hoping I can push it to 75hz

 

[KaRLiToS]

Little Update, I received the Bizlink adapter yesterday and did many tests.

I will post more information later after gathering the info from all my tests.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Looking good or bad so far?

 

[KaRLiToS]

Looking good or bad so far?

Bad, it doesn't change anything. I'm doing MANY tests, and everytime I reinstall windows 8.1 because I don't want any left overs or crap.

In a few I will do a complete post with pics and such...

 

[VulgarDisplay]

It must be some combination of hardware in your PC if they fixed it in their testing. Troubleshooting sucks doesn't it?

 

[KaRLiToS]

Ok, so today and yesterday I tested the Adapter I received from AMD.

It's this one

It is the Bizlink KS10008-131

This is what I found on the Accell web Page about my own adapters.

So in conclusion, it's 100% safe to say that they sent the same adapters as mine.

They also have the exact same firmware on each of them.

I also had a small present from AMD, which I will wear this week (Sam is awsome)

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Just a thought but do you know if they tested the same monitors as you?

 

[bryanW1995]

This is the first time I've seen direct customer support in action. Normally people just discuss their issues, but I've never seen AMD/NV actually get involved like this. Maybe I just haven't noticed but it's interesting to see anyway. I'll be curious to see if it was just the adapter in the end.

Corsair is the only other company that I've seen with a rep who's active here, though it seems like more companies SHOULD maintain a presence. Specifically, a few years ago I had an issue with a Corsair PSU and needed to RMA it, and yellowbeard was Mr Johnny on the spot for me and handled everything. It really is amazing how little effort it takes for a company to maintain customer loyalty. Kudos to the OP for his incredible patience, and kudos to AMD for taking care of him.

edit: Ha, just read Karlitos' last post. Sorry, man.

 

[KaRLiToS]

So, now what I did to test.

First, I formated my hard drive to be sure that there is no left overs. First thing I tried is Run my Quad Fire setup on a single DVI monitors

-QuadFire 290x + Single DVI Monitors = PASSED

Then I tried QuadFire 290x on a Single DP adapter monitor

-QuadFire 290x + Single DP adapter monitor = FAILED

So in conslusion of those tests
-every cards are working fine
-motherboard is working fine
-every PCIe slots are fine
-No power issues (also tested each wires of my PSU to verify the stable voltages)
-DVI outputs are fine

So I proceeded to test each single cards individually with the DP adapter monitor

-First Card + DP adapter/monitor = PASSED
-Second Card + DP adapter/monitor = PASSED
-Third card + DP adapter/monitor = PASSED
-Fourth card + DP adapter/monitor = PASSED


So in conclusion to those tests:
-Every cards display port outputs are working just fine
-Every adapters are working fine (the three of them)
-every monitors are working just fine


Then, my next steps were to try every combinations of CrossFire with the DP
I tried :
-Card 1 and 2 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED
-Card 1 and 3 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED
-Card 1 and 4 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED
-Card 2 and 3 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED
-Card 2 and 4 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED
-Card 3 and 4 (crossfire) + DP = FAILED

Between each of these tests, I was reinstalling Windows 8.1 to be sure that there is no crap and was trying different drivers from 13.11 beta 6 to 14.3 beta 1. And sometime trying more than one drivers on a single combination.


Then, my last test, which is one of the most conclusive was to test QuadFire 290x with eyefinity but with the DP monitor unplugged and only the DVIs outputs. So the resolution was 5220x1440 (eyefinity with two 1440p monitors)

QuadFire 290x + Eyefinity Dual 1440p monitors = PASSED

Metro Last Light Benchmark 5220x1440

So my conclusion is the same as 3 months ago

CrossFire (or tri or Quad) doesn't work with the display port outputs

My only way to be 100% sure of that is get some GTX 780ti SLI to test but keep in mind that the same system (exactly the same system) same monitors and same adapters were used with
-Trifire HD 6970
-QuadFire 7970

With no issue

 

[KaRLiToS]

I'm lost and don't know what to do anymore.

I need suggestions... maybe ? (Sell everything is my favorite option)

Just a thought but do you know if they tested the same monitors as you?

Probably not but the issue is not hardware, after my numerous tests its my conclusion. The monitors and adapters works fine when only a single 290x is used. also, they worked in eyefinity with the Tri 6970 and Quad 7970.

 

[Eymar]

Try using hdmi. In going to a 4k monitor, I found that 1.3 and above hdmi can be tweaked to be used with unsupported resolutions (in my case 1080p@120hz). You'll need to use a combination of (CRU (custom resolution utility) and ATI clock patcher (to increase hdmi pixel rate limits). I'll see if can use hdmi with 2x DL-DVI monitors for eyefinity (currently just using 50" 4k TV and retired my 3x 27" 1080p 120hz eyefinity setup).

http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU?pid=1165#pid1165

 

[KaRLiToS]

Try using hdmi. In going to a 4k monitor, I found that 1.3 and above hdmi can be tweaked to be used with unsupported resolutions (in my case 1080p@120hz). You'll need to use a combination of (CRU (custom resolution utility) and ATI clock patcher (to increase hdmi pixel rate limits). I'll see if can use hdmi with 2x DL-DVI monitors for eyefinity (currently just using 50" 4k TV and retired my 3x 27" 1080p 120hz eyefinity setup).

http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU?pid=1165#pid1165

Thanks mate, I think I will try the HDMI.

But my best option is to get the 3440x1440 panel and keep one 1440p panel for side monitor. I don't / can't sell my quad 290x, with blocks and fujipoly thermal pads, those cards were bought to be kept for a while. I am very reticent to get Nvidia, it will probably solve my issue but scaling with more than two cards with Nvidia is very poor. And I need a lot of HorsePower for the 7680x1440 resolution.

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Been running metro last Light Benchmarks for 2 hours now with the two DVI monitors (5120x1440) without issue.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I'm lost and don't know what to do anymore.

I need suggestions... maybe ? (Sell everything is my favorite option)



Probably not but the issue is not hardware, after my numerous tests its my conclusion. The monitors and adapters works fine when only a single 290x is used. also, they worked in eyefinity with the Tri 6970 and Quad 7970.

I ask because they were likely using different monitors and think they fixed the issue in their testing. Its another piece if the puzzle to at least consider.

 

[KaRLiToS]

I ask because they were likely using different monitors and think they fixed the issue in their testing. Its another piece if the puzzle to at least consider.

To be honest, I never felt they were in control:

20th of February

They have identified the issue and are working on a solution which will be included in an upcoming driver release. To be perfectly honest with you we don’t know when this new driver will be released yet; but I will definitely let you know as soon as I find out.

March 24th

We have found a solution to your problem. It turns out the issue had to do with the adapter you have been using. After a few tests, the team has found a different adapter that will resolve your problem; which is the Bizlink KS10008 Diplayport to Dual Link DVI-D active Adapter.

At this point, are they sure its Hardware or Driver, was the adapter just to test my system?

All 3 adapters I have are from AMD Hardware Certified List.

I am 100% the adapter is not the issue because they all work fine on each monitors when only one card is used...