RADEON PRO!! - 400mhz core! Go for it ATI!

[rockhard]

zippy thanx, shame about that, would have been great if u could

antman

If ur using Win2K then be best going for a nVidia card as they offer the only stable and lot better performing drivers than all the other vid card chip manufacturers drivers.

rockhard =)

 

[arthurb1]

My raedon 64MB DDR does fine in 2k with UT and NFS5...jsut fine...use the beta drivers under "Special Purpose" on ATI's page...I will buy the RAEDONIIMAX in a year or so....I will never settle for crappy 2d again. Hopefully the G800 will do well in 3D.

 

[rockhard]

arthurb1

Is it true tho' that the frames per second is a lot lower with the ATI in Win2K than in Win9x?

If there aint any difference or is negligible would be grateful if you could point me to some benches showing this

This is the only thing stopping me from buying the ATI
Heh after playing Quake2 @ over 220fps and Quake3 over 160fps dont think i could cope with playing on a slower performing MC again

Ur thoughts be appreciated,

rockhard =)

 

[MSNY]

I don't buy the release dates. I think this is all marketing hype, nothing more. One thing that will kill a video company is promising something and then not delivering on time. Just remember 3dfx is second because of broken marketing hype. Not that what they promise can't be done technically, but will they do it ahead of competitiion ? ATI has never yet...why would we expect them to now ? hmmm ?

Nvidia has stayed the course from the beginning. I'll stay with them as tried and true...unless of course they slip up...

 

[arthurb1]

Have not tried the card in 98...prolly won't, running NTFS...you know how it is ...In 32 bit 1024x768 NFS5 seems to be allright with these beta drivers, seems just as smooth as my GTS was at 16 bit at the same res...(the GTS crashed in 32 bit) Goint to try UT at 1280x1024 now in 32 bit...be back soon...UT used to crash with my GTS after about 1 hr or so...we'll see with the raedon. I think it may be a little slower, but like I have said before, I just got sick and tired of the 2D lack of quality that I was/am getting from my GTS (CLA 2) and my DDR at my dad's office (ASUS 6800) and my SDR (6600) before the GTS.

 

[Robor]

"Nvidia has stayed the course from the beginning. I'll stay with them as tried and true...unless of course they slip up..." - MSNY

I think this statement is incorrect... Didn't Nvidia advertise one speed for the TNT then deliver another?

Rob

 

[The Wildcard]

I have to give props to ATi. They just don't give up and I am glad. They just keep on improving and improving.

 

[arthurb1]

Readon does 48-58 fps with an average of about 52 at 1280x1024x32 in 2k...in UT with everything set to HQ. With a tbird 800 and 256 MB RAM

 

[SSP]

Heh after playing Quake2 @ over 220fps and Quake3 over 160fps dont think i could cope with playing on a slower performing MC again

Come again? The human eye can only see 24FPS/s (give or take few frames). This is why Movies run at 30FPS (I think). You can't tell the difference between 220 and 160 FPS. Heck, ~80FPS is more then enough for FPS games.

 

[Shazam]

Oh no, not again.

 

[Cosmic_Horror]

Nvidia had a histroy of overhyping it products in the good old days, tnt was biult as the voodoo 2 killer. It ended up providing very good competion to it (i bought one!)

Ati has had poor driver support in the past however with the Radeon, they not only provided what appears to be pretty good win9x drivers but also released this card on time (or just before) which was a very good sign from them!

Hopefully with MS pushing to move to windows.net (whistler) this will prompt many companies to move into writting good win2k drivers now esp. for there video cards!

 

[Do'Urden]

This makes me wonder if I should the the AIW now or see if they will also upgrade that. I'm definetly going for the AIW but if a new one is just around the corner then I might want to wait.

Anyone know something I don't know in that area??

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

Ok, this boggles me.

Radeon MAXX = Two Radeon Chips on one board with DDR memory.
Radeon 2 = One Radeon2 Chip (double the power of one radeon) on board with DDR memory.


So, to recap, we have one card that has the same specs and double the memory bandwidth, and it comes out earlier, with a (then) generation old processor...

WHY RELEASE RADEON 2 WHEN IT WILL PERFORM AT A LOWER LEVEL THAN RADEON MAXX?

 

[damocles]

My Ass it will be 4x faster in October/November

Mebbe in Synthetic Benchmarks

 

[RagingGuardian]

<< Heh after playing Quake2 @ over 220fps and Quake3 over 160fps dont think i could cope with playing on a slower performing MC again >>



WTF. You play Q3 at 160fps??? At what display resolution???

 

[RagingGuardian]

Wait a minute. You know what really annoys me? People who doubt that the Radeon2 can be 2x as fast or the Pro can be 4x as fast the current Radeon. When Nvidia announces that they're cards are twice as fast as the last gen card everybody eats it up but then we hate on the underdogs. The NV20 should be twice as fast as the GTS, if Nvidia can deliver on that promise then ATI can do the same. Nvidia isn't some supreme company that gets it's card secrets from God. If Nvidia can do it the 3DFX, Matrox and ATI can.

Then maybe some of us can play Q3 at 320fps.

 

[rockhard]

SSP, Raging Guardian

• << Heh after playing Quake2 @ over 220fps and Quake3 over 160fps dont think i could cope with playing on a slower performing MC again >>

To play at the above i use 800x600x16 with a heavily modded config for both games



<< Come again? The human eye can only see 24FPS/s (give or take few frames). This is why Movies run at 30FPS (I think). You can't tell the difference between 220 and 160 FPS. Heck, ~80FPS is more then enough for FPS games. >>



Heh, ur eyes do see it as u can move around strafe jumping a lot faster and u can change weapon a lot faster than on a PC with say 100fps, that is a given fact born out by any serious league player of both Quakes
U ask them if they want to play on a machine with 100 fps over another @ 200fps and thyre goin to take the 200 every time.

I found out the hard way by getting my ass kicked online by people who were moving around so much faster than me that i couldnt keep up with them in a ding dong
Now i have a system that can do the 200fps i dont have this problem no more

Try running quake with its fps capped @ 30 fps and stand still and turn round in a circle as quickly as possible. Then repeat with rate uncapped - U WILL SEE AND FEEL THE DIFFERENCE

If you dont believe me put a post up asking quake players if a faster machine (more fps) gives them a competitive edge in their game over a slower one. I know what the answers will be

32 bit is fine for playing on your own or single player, but if ur playing FFA online ur putting yourself at a disadvantage using 32 bit Try runnin in 16/32 and running around those teleporters in quake3 with cl_drawfps 1. U will see in the fps, and feel the difference

I guess ur not heavily into online Quakeing? If u were then i reckon u would understand

Heh, i shouldnt be telling u guys my secrets for quakeing, u'll all be kickin my ass again


rockhard =)

 

[nippyjun]

Davegood: adding more chips or scaleability is the best technology, 3dfx just didn't execute fast enough with the napalm line, but rampage will. Scaleability is technically harder but definitely worth it. Why do you think that ATI is going this route?

 

[HaVoC]

GETTING BACK ON TOPIC...I think ATI has set some pretty agressive roadmap dates and if they will certainly boost their standing with me. I am already pretty impressed by the Radeon, but I have to demand good Win2K drivers. I don't care if only 2% of gamers use this OS. It is superior to Win9x except in video performance and I feel that is due to lack of driver optimizations. ATI better beef up their Win2K support because the 9x kernel is dying. (Unless MicroShaft releases another service pack for 98 and calls it a new edition. :|!) Like someone else said, nVidia is ahead of the game as the industry moves slowly to Win9x. Other still have time to catch up.

Unless the DDR memory is twice as fast, the Radeon II will be another GF2 story in higher resolutions. Their T&amp;L engine may be twice as fast which will be significant next year.

 

[ElFenix]

nvidia's nt drivers crashed my computer all the damn time. never had that problem with my v3 2k. nvidia's drivers suck ass and thats why they have to have new ones every damned week.

 

[Soccerman]

hey has anyone ever tried the latest Windows 2K 3dfx drivers? (I think 1.03? something like that).

 

[Doomguy]

elfenix: Are you a dumbass? All the leaked drivers are internal releases not official. 3dfx has just as many internal releases but they dont get leaked. NVidia has the fastest and most stable NT/2k drivers its a fact.

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

Ok, shall i point out one more time that the RADEON 1 MAXX will be faster than the RADEON 2? Why make two products?

The MAXX will have the same specs and double the memory bandwidth...

 

[Xray]

NFS4

Elite Member Says

Nothing new, was already posted Thursday

Get a life man or just let other people discus. You are not the only person who can post about new tech.

Oh yea!! and Need For Speed Sucks!!

 

[rockhard]

Xray

LOL

I only just got to 500 posts and quickly scrambled to my profile hoping i was going to get treated to something
I was abruptly faced with a big dissapointment in that i got nothing

Then i saw this bright light like i was in a dream and it all came clear to me at last:-

&quot;BBS's are NOT the real world. Get a life!&quot;

Now basking in the reflection of my new found wisdom, i take my BBS'in a little more light heartedly
Heh, that is till the next best thing since sliced bread hits the stores again!

ROFLMAO

rockhard =)