Radeon Drivers

[apoppin]

I believe it was given to you free? If that is the case since it has done its purpose (in their view) there is no point in replacing your (probably) dud card.

There is no such thing as free. ABT is a media partner with AMD and i did a 30-game evaluation of the HD 6990 and several follow-up articles.
:whiste:

Agreed. It's job was done when AMD fooled us into testing it with the HD 6990 overclocked; by misrepresenting a non-existent warranty to the tech editors..

And i hope they don't mind a front page ABT article about their sloppy HD 6990 launch, they way they rushed us and misrepresented it, and their inability to replace it.

i am going to destroy my HD 6990 and will probably run a contest to see the most clever way to do. i am favoring a shotgun blast.

 

[hdfxst]

There is no such thing as free. ABT is a media partner with AMD and i did a 30-game evaluation of the HD 6990 and several follow-up articles.
:whiste:

Agreed. It's job was done when AMD fooled us into testing it with the HD 6990 overclocked; by misrepresenting a non-existent warranty to the tech editors..

And i hope they don't mind a front page ABT article about their sloppy HD 6990 launch, they way they rushed us and misrepresented it, and their inability to replace it.

i am going to destroy my HD 6990 and will probably run a contest to see the most clever way to do. i am favoring a shotgun blast.

If the card works in another motherboard then you need to do a little more troubleshooting.
And speaking of articles,last year you said you would write an article about a certain companys viral marketing and strong arm tactics,when is that coming out?

 

[apoppin]

If the card works in another motherboard then you need to do a little more troubleshooting.
And speaking of articles,last year you said you would write an article about a certain companys viral marketing and strong arm tactics,when is that coming out?

What troubleshooting do you suggest?

• HD 6970 and every other AMD card works in my PC; including HD 6970 CrossFire. All Nvidia cards work in my MB including the GTX 590.
• Putting the HD 6990 into either slot BSODs the PC as soon at it hits the desktop; i have tried from the launch drivers through Cat 11-8
• AMD suggested that i move it to another MB and then back again. It briefly worked in my X58 board after running in my Phenom II PC, but when i rebooted, it BSODs again.
• AMD knows this is not a unique situation - "sometimes it happens", they said

By what they said, leads me to think that it may have to do with the power regulating ICs.

As to other articles, i have been putting out more than a major review every week for the past year. i did a 6 month evaluation of 3D Vision which is taking over a month just to write.
--And when/if i do a Viral marketing and Strong-arm tactic article, it may well be about both companies
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[hdfxst]

Do you know anyone else with an x58 board?And did you ever find out what burned your last board up?You're basing a conclusion on 1 setup

 

[Gillbot]

Send it to me appopin, i'll let it BSOD my machine and i'll make another one of these threads.

 

[apoppin]

Do you know anyone else with an x58 board?And did you ever find out what burned your last board up?You're basing a conclusion on 1 setup

Untrue.

i am basing my conclusion on what AMD told me:

try it maybe in another motherboard ... We sometimes have that issue…

So you are suggesting that i acquire another X58 MB to see if the HD 6990 will work in it? Is this what everyone should do that has a HD 6990 fail on them - put it in another MB?
:|

My MB has a clean bill of health. It is running flawlessly - except for HD 6990 which has KNOWN ISSUES with motherboards according to AMD

 

[hdfxst]

I googled " issues with amd 6990 and x58 motherboard" and couldn't find anything,would you link me to these KNOWN ISSUES?

 

[apoppin]

Send it to me appopin, i'll let it BSOD my machine and i'll make another one of these threads.

Hi Gill!

i think it is metaphysical. i had issues with the sloppy launch of the HD 6990 and it failed on me. i don't have to make a forum post, i can always do a front page article on HD 6990 reliability when overclocked.
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Clearly you are a "Nvidia guy" ... sell that ATi card to someone who will love and cherish it and get yourself a card that will be loyal to you
:whiste:
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I googled " issues with amd 6990 and x58 motherboard" and couldn't find anything,would you link me to these KNOWN ISSUES?

you seem to be a little slow understanding this .. do you want to read my email exchanges with AMD?

AMD SAID THERE ARE KNOWN ISSUES WITH SOME MBS and HD 6990

They suggested that i switch it out

 

[Gillbot]

Hi Gill!

i think it is metaphysical. i had issues with the sloppy launch of the HD 6990 and it failed on me. i have to have to make a forum post, i can always do a front page article on HD 6990 reliability when overclocked.
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Clearly you are a "Nvidia guy" ... sell that ATi card to someone who will love and cherish it and get yourself a card that will be loyal to you
:whiste:

While it may appear that I am an NV guy, I really liked the 4870x2 until I had similar driver issues. I'm a "best card that WORKS for my $" kinda guy, and if that happens to be a S3 Trio 64, so be it! If an AMD product comes along that will work well for me, I'll be more than happy to use it.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

i am going to destroy my HD 6990 and will probably run a contest to see the most clever way to do. i am favoring a shotgun blast.

I suggest taking your own advice...

sell [editor's note: or give] that ATi card to someone who will love and cherish it and get yourself a card that will be loyal to you

 

[apoppin]

While it may appear that I am an NV guy, I really liked the 4870x2 until I had similar driver issues. I'm a "best card that WORKS for my $" kinda guy, and if that happens to be a S3 Trio 64, so be it! If an AMD product comes along that will work well for me, I'll be more than happy to use it.

See you're missing the point. If you get another AMD card, it will happen again

Metaphysical
:whiste:

 

[hdfxst]

you seem to be a little slow understanding this .. do you want to read my email exchanges with AMD?

AMD SAID THERE ARE KNOWN ISSUES WITH SOME MBS and HD 6990

They suggested that i switch it out

Post it up.I would think that if someone bought an 800 dollar card and had ISSUES with it they would be screaming to high heaven about it.So far you are the only one with the problem so humor me.

 

[apoppin]

I suggest taking your own advice...

Are you kidding me? And miss the opportunity for a great article and maybe a viral Youtube video?
:biggrin:

If it failed in my Intel MB, it is not reliable.

 

[apoppin]

Post it up.I would think that if someone bought an 800 dollar card and had ISSUES with it they would be screaming to high heaven about it.So far you are the only one with the problem so humor me.

Again, you don't get it. I have it in writing from AMD in our email correspondence; and not from a low-level tech source. They knew about the issue right away and their FIRST suggestion to me was to swap out the HD 6990 to another MB.

i don't think you would find this in a google search. Who has ever heard of moving a video card from one mb to another as a "fix" for the card? The people with issues like mine simply RMA them.

look at the issues with HD 6990 using a search describing the symptoms; any of these could be that same issue
http://www.google.com/search?client=gmail&rls=gm&q=hd%206990%20failure%20issues%20broken%20artifacting#pq=hd+6990+failure+issues+broken+artifacting&hl=en&cp=27&gs_id=g&xhr=t&q=hd+6990+failure+issues+bsod+artifacting&qe=aGQgNjk5MCBmYWlsdXJlIGlzc3VlcyBic29kIGFydGlmYWN0aW5n&qesig=r2LBxTByy8E6Lk42dL61fw&pkc=AFgZ2tm3_Kl_4BGMNYLZhTxlHwqvm_ImBCK5dIeiecXDyVLi97dju3qzM9mXfe_xNIPboIKVAltteA-WfXLKaGddNlgbKDZATw&pf=p&sclient=psy&client=gmail&rls=gm&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=hd+6990+failure+issues+bsod+artifacting&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b62454da27284b07&biw=1366&bih=645

This actually calls for an ABT investigation. As usual, I will be thorough and you can read about it on our front page.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Give it to someone else, like one of the other editors.

 

[hdfxst]

Again, you don't get it. I have it in writing from AMD in our email correspondence; and not from a low-level tech source. The knew about it right away and their FIRST suggestion to me was to swap out the HD 6990 to another MB.

This actually calls for an ABT investigation. As usual, I will be thorough and you can read about it on our front page.

You offered to show the email but if you can't(you have an agreement with amd) i understand.I look forward to reading both articles

 

[hdfxst]

Again, you don't get it. I have it in writing from AMD in our email correspondence; and not from a low-level tech source. They knew about the issue right away and their FIRST suggestion to me was to swap out the HD 6990 to another MB.

i don't think you would find this in a google search. Who has ever heard of moving a video card from one mb to another as a "fix" for the card? The people with issues like mine simply RMA them.

look at the issues with HD 6990 using a search describing the symptoms; any of these could be that same issue
http://www.google.com/search?client=gmail&rls=gm&q=hd%206990%20failure%20issues%20broken%20artifacting#pq=hd+6990+failure+issues+broken+artifacting&hl=en&cp=27&gs_id=g&xhr=t&q=hd+6990+failure+issues+bsod+artifacting&qe=aGQgNjk5MCBmYWlsdXJlIGlzc3VlcyBic29kIGFydGlmYWN0aW5n&qesig=r2LBxTByy8E6Lk42dL61fw&pkc=AFgZ2tm3_Kl_4BGMNYLZhTxlHwqvm_ImBCK5dIeiecXDyVLi97dju3qzM9mXfe_xNIPboIKVAltteA-WfXLKaGddNlgbKDZATw&pf=p&sclient=psy&client=gmail&rls=gm&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=hd+6990+failure+issues+bsod+artifacting&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b62454da27284b07&biw=1366&bih=645

This actually calls for an ABT investigation. As usual, I will be thorough and you can read about it on our front page.

Did you read those links?The first one goes to you on your site,the second one goes nowhere and the third one was user error and the rest are nothing

 

[sandorski]

Are you kidding me? And miss the opportunity for a great article and maybe a viral Youtube video?
:biggrin:

If it failed in my Intel MB, it is not reliable.

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It could very well be the Motherboard. It wouldn't be the first time a Motherboard/Chipset has had issues with specific Video Cards.

 

[Grooveriding]

Sounds like a good dose of PEBKAC to me. The 6990 not the driver thing, although that was clearly PEBKAC as well using windows update.

 

[apoppin]

Give it to someone else, like one of the other editors.

Why would i give defective HW away. As i said, this calls for an investigation and a front page ABT article if warranted. Something isn't right and my background is investigative journalism.

You offered to show the email but if you can't(you have an agreement with amd) i understand.I look forward to reading both articles

There are privacy concerns. (i asked if you wanted to see; i really didn't offer ) However, there is NO WAY that i would have thought about moving a broken card to another MB if 30 other cards and combinations of cards work in that same PC.

It might be useful to troubleshoot issues and give a temporary fix if somehow the power regulating ICs get "confused" and putting it into another MB may cause it to reset itself. i am adding this information to my tool chest.
:thumbsup:

 

[apoppin]

Did you read those links?The first one goes to you on your site,the second one goes nowhere and the third one was user error and the rest are nothing

i know you didn't read them unless you are the world's fastest reader
- the issues are on more than one page

It could very well be the Motherboard. It wouldn't be the first time a Motherboard/Chipset has had issues with specific Video Cards.

Of course. Let's look at the facts. It worked for months in that same MB with no changes to anything.

AMD acknowledged to me that they have those some issues with HD 6990

 

[hdfxst]

i know you didn't read them unless you are the world's fastest reader
- the issues are on more than one page

go to advanced search and show posts for the last year and it only has 5 pages,not hard to go through them

 

[Gillbot]

See you're missing the point. If you get another AMD card, it will happen again

Metaphysical
:whiste:

If I get an NV card, it CAN happen as well. Difference is, I'm not going to buy ANY cards in the foreseeable future unless another one falls into my lap like this 4870 did. If it falls into my lap, I'll take anything since I'm not as biased as you think I am. I'm SUPER cheap over anything.

 

[apoppin]

go to advanced search and show posts for the last year and it only has 5 pages,not hard to go through them

And yet AMD acknowledged that this issues happens even though there are not many of these cards. You appear to be trying to say there are no issues with HD 6990.

Look at the NewEgg customer reviews for the MSI 6990
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127574

Here is one thread with a few issues from more than one poster:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1065494-6990-defective-bad-overclock.html

or here
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76025

 

[hdfxst]

And yet AMD acknowledged that this issues happens even though there are not many of these cards. You appear to be trying to say there are no issues with HD 6990.

Look at the NewEgg customer reviews for the MSI 6990
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127574

Here is one thread with a few issues from more than one poster:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1065494-6990-defective-bad-overclock.html

or here
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76025

I'm not saying there's no issues I'm questioning your issues,you condemned the 6990 to fast

1 a trained monkey could write a newegg review

2 from your link "I have artifacts on my card on STOCK CLOCKS, but when I up the voltage a bit (0.02) it is perfectly fine..

Sometimes the PSU can not deliver what it exactly is supposed to.

On your OC, you don't really have to overclock it in my opinion, it's already the fastest card in the world. I don't think it's a bad card, just limit of the card like the first poster said.."

3 Is that an x58 motherboard?