Racial breakdown by color of major US cities

[lothar]

Yes, the races are segregated because black people are racist.

Thank you for that information, Rush Limbaugh.

 

[Carmen813]

Racism goes both ways.
The lefties don't tell you that there is racism from African-Americans against other racial groups including Africans and Hispanics either.

The lefties here, along with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would make one believe that only White people are racists, and African-Americans are always the victims.

It's impossible for racism to go both ways as racism is about a minority group being oppressed by a majority group. Reverse racism does not exist because it is implicitly impossible for a minority group to oppress a majority group, it implies a privilege (and level of power) that a minority group simply does not have.

Stay with me.

The concepts you are talking about are prejudice and discrimination, which can go both ways.

 

[Linflas]

It's impossible for racism to go both ways as racism is about a minority group being oppressed by a majority group. Reverse racism does not exist because it is implicitly impossible for a minority group to oppress a majority group, it implies a privilege (and level of power) that a minority group simply does not have.

Stay with me.

The concepts you are talking about are prejudice and discrimination, which can go both ways.

Amazing it took this long for the Race Inc. redefinition of racism to pop up in this thread. All human beings have the capacity to be racist, the only thing power has to do with it is whether or not you can institutionalize your racist beliefs.

Stay with me:

Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

Note not a single mention of power anywhere in the Webster's definition.

 

[Scotteq]

It's impossible for racism to go both ways as racism is about a minority group being oppressed by a majority group. Reverse racism does not exist because it is implicitly impossible for a minority group to oppress a majority group, it implies a privilege (and level of power) that a minority group simply does not have.

Stay with me.

The concepts you are talking about are prejudice and discrimination, which can go both ways.

..ah.... so as a child when I grew up in East Orange, NJ: Getting repeatedly hospitalized courtesy of the black children in the neighborhood was somehow *my* fault!?!? And that *I* was actually the racist who was causing all of this?? You know - For being white?


How is it any more justifiable to perform such acts against a white child by non~whites than it is for the other way around?

News Flash: It can, and Damned well DOES go both ways.


It never fails to amaze me as to the level of willful ignorance on the part of you Neo~liberal assholes.

 

[sandorski]

Interesting Maps. Would be interesting to have Income, Unemployment, and other Data Superimposed on them.

 

[SP33Demon]

Grew up near Kensington and Allegheny. Grandparents were from Fishtown, which I understand went upscale, but I haven't been there in decades so I don't really know.

Yeah North of Chinatown used to not be a nice place. I can understand why you had to watch your back!

 

[Throckmorton]

..ah.... so as a child when I grew up in East Orange, NJ: Getting repeatedly hospitalized courtesy of the black children in the neighborhood was somehow *my* fault!?!? And that *I* was actually the racist who was causing all of this?? You know - For being white?


How is it any more justifiable to perform such acts against a white child by non~whites than it is for the other way around?

News Flash: It can, and Damned well DOES go both ways.

It never fails to amaze me as to the level of willful ignorance on the part of you Neo~liberal assholes.

Assuming they were the majority and you were a minority being oppressed because of your race, then that would fit with his definition of racism.

It's like how here in Hawaii whites are a minority, and at public schools white kids get beat up for being white.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

..ah.... so as a child when I grew up in East Orange, NJ: Getting repeatedly hospitalized courtesy of the black children in the neighborhood was somehow *my* fault!?!? And that *I* was actually the racist who was causing all of this?? You know - For being white?

should've moved to west orange.

 

[Throckmorton]

BTW these maps are bad cartography. Why the hell would they use unintuitive colors that make you have to constantly think about which color goes with which race? White should be pink dots, black should be dark brown dots, Hispanic should be light brown or maybe red dots, Asian yellow.

There are also no reference points like highways.

 

[Scotteq]

should've moved to west orange.

Maplewood, actually.

Not something that was under my control at the time, tho. You understand, of course.

 

[Scotteq]

Assuming they were the majority and you were a minority being oppressed because of your race, then that would fit with his definition of racism.

It's like how here in Hawaii whites are a minority, and at public schools white kids get beat up for being white.

..a definition which I categorically reject: You don't have to be in a (local or not) Majority to be a Racist. i.e. That KKK member in all alone in a house somewhere in the sticks is still a racist. As is the Black Panther sitting in his living room all by himself.

Merriam~Webster:

1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

Relative Power is nowhere in the definition.

 

[werepossum]

Amazing it took this long for the Race Inc. redefinition of racism to pop up in this thread. All human beings have the capacity to be racist, the only thing power has to do with it is whether or not you can institutionalize your racist beliefs.

Stay with me:


Note not a single mention of power anywhere in the Webster's definition.

Exactly. Prejudice is merely judging someone before the fact - for whatever reason. And discrimination is an action, not an opinion. This definition of racism as something only possible to white people (and its inevitable corollary, that all white people are racist because of institutional racism) is a dangerous thing in our society.

However - Carmen does have a grain of truth in his statement, in that racism and discrimination by a minority is much less damaging than by a majority. At two different jobs I've heard the owner ask a supervisor "You didn't hire that ni@@er did you?" Since Saddam's Iraq and apartheid South Africa aside the majority of jobs will almost by definition be controlled by the majority, the effect of racism among the majority is more more significant. Racism in a minority can take away potential of employment among some jobs, but racism in the majority can take away potential of employment among many more jobs, maybe nearly all if it's widespread enough, the minority is small enough, and/or the disparity in wealth is enough. If a black-owner restaurant refuses to serve me because I am white, I have a huge number of restaurants left from which to choose. If all black-owner restaurants refuse to serve me because I am white, I still have a large number of restaurants left from which to choose. If on the other hand I am black and all white-owned restaurants refuse to serve me because I am black, I have a much more constrained choice of eateries. While I reject Carmen's definition, the relative power of the racism is undeniably way out of balance in effect between majority and minority.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Maplewood, actually.

Not something that was under my control at the time, tho. You understand, of course.

maplewood isn't that great, at least not since i moved to NJ 15 years ago.
west orange is nicer than maplewood IMO.

 

[Zargon]

However - Carmen does have a grain of truth in his statement, in that racism and discrimination by a minority is much less damaging than by a majority.

yeah. but less damaging isnt exactly 'helpful', or nonexistant or impossible as carmen is implying.

what a nutjob

 

[Pocatello]

So blue is the new black?

 

[ShawnD1]

So blue is the new black?

I don't get it either. It would make sense to keep white people red or pink, black would be black or brown, asian yellow.


Racial self-segregation is pretty normal. There's a part of Edmonton called Mill Woods that is probably 90% east indians. It's a middle class area, just like the surrounding areas. There's no financial reason for it to be an Indian part of town, but it is. People like to be with their own kind.

 

[lothar]

It's impossible for racism to go both ways as racism is about a minority group being oppressed by a majority group. Reverse racism does not exist because it is implicitly impossible for a minority group to oppress a majority group, it implies a privilege (and level of power) that a minority group simply does not have.

Stay with me.

The concepts you are talking about are prejudice and discrimination, which can go both ways.

So in conclusion, it's impossible for African-Americans, Jews, Hispanics, and Asians to be racists against whites because they are a minority group?

Is this similar to when a black person calls another black person a great person, it's considered a complement, but when someone else calls them that, it's considered racist?

When a black person rejects a white person who's more qualified than his counterpart for a job because of his skin color, it's considered discrimination; but when a white person does it, it's considered racism?

Which definition or racism are you using, or are you using your own made up definition?
Feel free to consult Webster, Oxford, Cambridge, Random House, or Collins dictionaries' for reference if you want to know what the actual definition of racism is.

 

[ShawnD1]

Is this similar to when a black person calls another black person a great person, it's considered a complement, but when someone else calls them that, it's considered racist?

On that 70s show, Hyde would wear a shirt that said kill whitey. It was funny because he was white. A black person wearing that shirt should be killed, just as a white guy wearing a kkk outfit should be killed. Black guy in a kkk outfit is funny.

 

[OCGuy]

If you really want to be surprised, check out the prisons.

 

[ericlp]

They couldn't have picked a different color to represent Asians?

To match his map, Red is White, Blue is Black, Green is Asian, Orange is Hispanic, Gray is Other, and each dot is 25 people. Data from Census 2000. Base map

 

[piasabird]

Looks stupid to me. No aparrent legend. I also thought the images were of poor quality.

 

[Howard]

They couldn't have picked a different color to represent Asians?

Who gives a shit? Do you think "Oriental" is offensive, too?

 

[Udgnim]

blacks can live with whites

they just need to be in the middle class demographic or higher

 

[ShawnD1]

blacks can live with whites

they just need to be in the middle class demographic or higher

Or the white people can be white trash.

 

[Udgnim]

Or the white people can be white trash.

they'll still be separated from each other

white trash have their trailer parks

poor black people have their ghettos