R520 will be dual slot

[blckgrffn]

Don't expect that to go away any time soon, they didn't give us near enough juice with the PCIe spec...

Nat

 

[jrphoenix]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hehe it keeps looking like the NV30 more and more if this is true

I don't think so? Even if they just stuck 8 or 16 more pipes on their current core and shrunk to 90nm they would be on par or beating nvidia. I think one of the big flaws with the nv30 was the lack of pipeline & pixel power. I hope both companies remain competetive & prices drop


edit suck to stuck

 

[ddogg]

Originally posted by: jrphoenix

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hehe it keeps looking like the NV30 more and more if this is true

I don't think so? Even if they just stuck 8 or 16 more pipes on their current core and shrunk to 90nm they would be on par or beating nvidia. I think one of the big flaws with the nv30 was the lack of pipeline & pixel power. I hope both companies remain competetive & prices drop


edit suck to stuck

yup, lets just wait and see. even the NV30 was clocked extremely high but still failed to outbeat the 9700Pro. this card could be a 24pipe part and clocked so high to match nvidia's performance. if its 32 then its another story.

 

[imported_X]

I think we all know the Inquirer is just a rumor mill. But it is still fun to speculate

Speaking of which, the Inq has mentioned a couple of times now that R520 is due in September. And when it does come out, it will be a hard launch with actual product available. Here's hoping they are right about that one!

 

[Mrvile]

Ahh damn I was expecting pics.

I like dual slot cooling, it's cooler and quieter, and I don't have any problems fitting it (although SFFs will). The X850XT has a great dual slot design, a lot like the VGA Silencers that blow the hot air out of the case.

 

[Mrvile]

Ahh damn I was expecting pics.

I like dual slot cooling, it's cooler and quieter, and I don't have any problems fitting it (although SFFs will). The X850XT has a great dual slot design, a lot like the VGA Silencers that blow the hot air out of the case.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Dual slot, I love you, quiet and cool! (sometimes)

LOL, rollo, did you ever see that video where they strapped a 5800U to a leaf blower, then a hair drier... I can't remember what else, but I though it was damn funny, but non of my friends got it... my 6800U was LOUD too... but fast. If I have to have loud to be fast, then so be it

Nat

I have seen it, and it is funny. 5800U wasn't that loud, but it was definitely noticeable. Sounded like a tiny hair dryer.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

If we still assume that ATI and NVidia are neck and neck in terms of card speed. X800XL ~ 6800GT, then if they clock to 600mhz with an R520, hopefully it should destroy everything in its way. Kinda like when 9700 kicked the crap out of GF4. Ill laugh so hard if this happens.

Edit: Otherwise I'll cry.

 

[imported_Rampage]

This is likely due to being out of necessity to keep up with the G70.

Dual slot coolers are a bad thing.

Single slot is always better than dual slot, esp if you have to go dual slot to match a single slot cards performance.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
If we still assume that ATI and NVidia are neck and neck in terms of card speed. X800XL ~ 6800GT, then if they clock to 600mhz with an R520, hopefully it should destroy everything in its way. Kinda like when 9700 kicked the crap out of GF4. Ill laugh so hard if this happens.

Edit: Otherwise I'll cry.

Why would you be happy or sad based on the performance of a card it looks like you won't buy?

Out of curiosity- I'll buy one whether it's faster or slower and don't care either way.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Rollo
A blow to the ATI followers of the past who have ridiculed the dual slot cooling of the nV3X-nV4X series, to be sure.

Rollo, if you're going to troll, at least find something new to troll about. Again, people mocked the Flow FX's noise, not size. I don't recall anyone knocking the VGA Silencer for being too big.

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: Pete

Originally posted by: Rollo
A blow to the ATI followers of the past who have ridiculed the dual slot cooling of the nV3X-nV4X series, to be sure.

Rollo, if you're going to troll, at least find something new to troll about. Again, people mocked the Flow FX's noise, not size. I don't recall anyone knocking the VGA Silencer for being too big.

Someone has his Sli Goggles on and has been hitting the Bourbon alot lately :evil:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Pete

Originally posted by: Rollo
A blow to the ATI followers of the past who have ridiculed the dual slot cooling of the nV3X-nV4X series, to be sure.

Rollo, if you're going to troll, at least find something new to troll about. Again, people mocked the Flow FX's noise, not size. I don't recall anyone knocking the VGA Silencer for being too big.

Really Pete? You don't remember anyone complaining about the 5900Us and 6800Us being dual slot?

If I had a buck for everytime an ATI fan said "big, loud, power hungry" about nVcards, I wouldn't bother working.

 

[imported_Rampage]

I'll take a single slot, cool, quiet, low power consumption 7800 with stable drivers, over a loud, huge, power hungry R520 with a higher price and immature drivers anyday.

unless they can put out massive numbers like 50% performance gains for the same price as Nvidia.. wont happen.

I'd need a very massive performance increase (at equal or lower price) to concede all the benefits inherent to the Geforce7.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: southpawuni
I'll take a single slot, cool, quiet, low power consumption 7800 with stable drivers, over a loud, huge, power hungry R520 with a higher price and immature drivers anyday.

Links to prove that R520 is power hungry, will have a higher MSRP, or will be loud.

 

[Pete]

I remember quite well, as I was one of those mocking the Flow FX's ineptness. Go ahead, be dual slot, but dual slot AND the noisiest thing out there, on top of being slower than the 9700P? What the heck was there NOT to ridicule about it? Flow FX stands alone, and rightly so. IIRC, the 6800U's cooler wasn't nearly as loud. And ATI "fans" have already suffered their "blow" with the X850XTPE.

I'm not sure why you'd deserve a buck for glossing over the real reason people mocked Flow FX. Power-hungry technically applies to the GPU, not the cooler, and the GTX draws as much power as the 5800U, yet uses only a single-slot cooler. I'm not sure how that's related, except if you want to paint R520 as NV30 redux.

And why only ATI fans? What, nV fans are incapable of pointing out the obvious about the 5800U?

Speaking of NV30 redux, southpawuni, why do you expect R520 to be loud? Don't you think ATI will launch with their top end, which by now means dual-slot? And don't you think the inevitable 7800U will also sport a dual-slot cooler? Why do you think dual-slot means loud?

I'd hold off on the NV30 comparisons until we actually read a review. If R520 merits the derision, then by all means, have at it. But don't you have anything better to do than warm-up complaints? And when did the 7800GTX become a low-power card?

 

[imported_Rampage]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: southpawuni
I'll take a single slot, cool, quiet, low power consumption 7800 with stable drivers, over a loud, huge, power hungry R520 with a higher price and immature drivers anyday.

unless they can put out massive numbers like 50% performance gains for the same price as Nvidia.. wont happen.

I'd need a very massive performance increase (at equal or lower price) to concede all the benefits inherent to the Geforce7.

Links to prove that R520 is power hungry, will have a higher MSRP, or will be loud.

Links to prove that it wont?

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: southpawuni

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: southpawuni
I'll take a single slot, cool, quiet, low power consumption 7800 with stable drivers, over a loud, huge, power hungry R520 with a higher price and immature drivers anyday.

unless they can put out massive numbers like 50% performance gains for the same price as Nvidia.. wont happen.

I'd need a very massive performance increase (at equal or lower price) to concede all the benefits inherent to the Geforce7.

Links to prove that R520 is power hungry, will have a higher MSRP, or will be loud.

Links to prove that it wont?

I don't have any but from your response I'm guessing you don't have any links to prove your statement, but if you do please prove my wrong I would love to be enlightened.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: HDTVMan

Originally posted by: X
Looks like the R520 will be dual slot, which should be interesting in Xfire config. At least yields are looking good and clock speeds could actually exceed 600!

MANY SOURCES who have seen one have confirmed that ATI's next generation card looks just like its previous Radeon X800XT PE card.

The reference design implies that you will need dual slot cooling. Chip will be clocked incredible high and our sources implies that will end up much higher than 600MHz plus than we suggested before.

Some of the cards have left ATI's headquarters but R520 clock speeds are not settled as it?s a matter of yields. We know that ATI will be getting in for a hard launch sometime in September time, so it has to have the real hardware as soon as it launches.

The third re-spin make the chip and yields looks good but we heavily suspect that ATI might do XT PE this time again.

Im hoping thats not what it took to get it to best the 7800.

Why does that matter? Just buy the better card man.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: southpawuni
Links to prove that it wont?

How about every high-end ATI card released in the past three years? You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. As it is, you only have your apparent anti-ATI feelings propping up your assertion--so, nothing.

 

[Gagabiji]

WAAAAAAA??! Don't let is stop here, I'm enjoying reading this.

EDIT: N/m, thought last post was about 1 1/2 hours ago, not 5 minutes.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Pete
I remember quite well, as I was one of those mocking the Flow FX's ineptness. Go ahead, be dual slot, but dual slot AND the noisiest thing out there, on top of being slower than the 9700P? What the heck was there NOT to ridicule about it? Flow FX stands alone, and rightly so. IIRC, the 6800U's cooler wasn't nearly as loud. And ATI "fans" have already suffered their "blow" with the X850XTPE.

I'm not sure why you'd deserve a buck for glossing over the real reason people mocked Flow FX. Power-hungry technically applies to the GPU, not the cooler, and the GTX draws as much power as the 5800U, yet uses only a single-slot cooler. I'm not sure how that's related, except if you want to paint R520 as NV30 redux.

And why only ATI fans? What, nV fans are incapable of pointing out the obvious about the 5800U?

Speaking of NV30 redux, southpawuni, why do you expect R520 to be loud? Don't you think ATI will launch with their top end, which by now means dual-slot? And don't you think the inevitable 7800U will also sport a dual-slot cooler? Why do you think dual-slot means loud?

I'd hold off on the NV30 comparisons until we actually read a review. If R520 merits the derision, then by all means, have at it. But don't you have anything better to do than warm-up complaints? And when did the 7800GTX become a low-power card?

Why are you bringing up 5800Us at all when all I mentioned in my last post was 5900U and 6800U dual slot cards?

The fact of the matter is, ATI fans have complained much about the size of these cards, so I'm goign to note this must be a sore spot for them as ATIs new top card is a dual slot, and their last one was as well.

 

[jim1976]

I couldn't care less if the performance increase over 7800GTX is a serious one

 

[Crescent13]

I ignore all articles from the inquirer.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Why are you bringing up 5800Us at all when all I mentioned in my last post was 5900U and 6800U dual slot cards?

I believe a 5800U falls under the "NV3x-NV4x" heading, and the 5800U was the worst offender. Subsequent cards were better.

The fact of the matter is, ATI fans have complained much about the size of these cards, so I'm goign to note this must be a sore spot for them as ATIs new top card is a dual slot, and their last one was as well.

It'll be a sore spot if the card sucks. If it's good, no one'll care (read: 6800U). If it's still an FX card (read: 5900U), don't expect redemption from some extra registers.

And no one should care what fanboys have to say one way or another. Mere (rational) "fans" will deal, as dual-slot coolers aren't a blow to their misplaced pride.

I'd just prefer you stop bringing up this tired old ATI vs. nV crap. You yourself say you'll buy whatever card is best, so who gives a flying fig whether an ATI fan's pride will suffer a blow from a dual-slot cooler in the first place? I just can't see a *good* reason for you to have brought it up. I really appreciate your benchmark threads, but why keep taking a step back with cheap and pointless shots like your first post here?

Sorry, I'm in a combative mood tonight, but I think your post deserved to be singled out for its unconstructive nature (much like southpaw's second post).