Hmm, wanna know why I dislike most rap? Anyone? It's probably because (as a poster said above) the music is full of self-promoting garbage, and talk of violence. I know these things are in the genre of music that I listen to, I just don't care for the way they are presented by most rappers. I would walk away from someone while they were talking if the only subject was how big and bad they are. Who the hell cares, right? But if you have a "dope beat" (a.k.a. 1/100th of actual music), then it's suddently art, and even moreso if it only repeats 2 or 3 measures of "dope beat."
As a musician, I find it hard to beleive that people actually consider rap music. My personal position, is that it's storytelling. Some rappers have been bestowed titles that were indicative of them being poets, and others have released books of poetry. I think that rap is just largely miscategorized.
As a listener, I don't enjoy anyone talking about how much of a whore the girl they slept with last night was, how big their d*ck is, or how much money they have. It's largely full of traits that most civilized societies would consider annoying and/or undesirable. I'm not one to go with the mainstream culture, but I find the black counterculture to be the least impressive. Yes, I can speak poetry about killing prostitutes. Much better than complex rhyme schemes, and intricate melodies with appropriate percussion.
Maybe I'm just letting my brain get in the way. I like to be an active listener, and rap challenges noone mentally. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel about rap. I listen to certain types of rock, a small amount of punky-type music, and a median amount of classical music. I also dislike country for musical style preference differences. (not the same reasons listed for rap, obviously)
As a musician, I find it hard to beleive that people actually consider rap music. My personal position, is that it's storytelling. Some rappers have been bestowed titles that were indicative of them being poets, and others have released books of poetry. I think that rap is just largely miscategorized.
As a listener, I don't enjoy anyone talking about how much of a whore the girl they slept with last night was, how big their d*ck is, or how much money they have. It's largely full of traits that most civilized societies would consider annoying and/or undesirable. I'm not one to go with the mainstream culture, but I find the black counterculture to be the least impressive. Yes, I can speak poetry about killing prostitutes. Much better than complex rhyme schemes, and intricate melodies with appropriate percussion.
Maybe I'm just letting my brain get in the way. I like to be an active listener, and rap challenges noone mentally. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel about rap. I listen to certain types of rock, a small amount of punky-type music, and a median amount of classical music. I also dislike country for musical style preference differences. (not the same reasons listed for rap, obviously)
Rap is a great genre that many people don't get or want to get, especially whites. Ever hear Nas? Kanye? I could list some others but no point in that.
Rakim and others are also good and helped rap. Today's rap is different than the old-school rap. Biggie was amazing, very talented. Do not compare him to 50-Cent or some other thug-wannabe rappers. 50-Cent is not a thug and does not have a lot of street cred, especially those who know about him. Jay-Z is different though and he makes decent stuff.
I do not like rap that much, but I do listen to it once in a while. White folks ... learn to accept other forms of music.
I love alternative rock and other similar forms of music, but rap is good too once in a while.
Rakim and others are also good and helped rap. Today's rap is different than the old-school rap. Biggie was amazing, very talented. Do not compare him to 50-Cent or some other thug-wannabe rappers. 50-Cent is not a thug and does not have a lot of street cred, especially those who know about him. Jay-Z is different though and he makes decent stuff.
I do not like rap that much, but I do listen to it once in a while. White folks ... learn to accept other forms of music.
I love alternative rock and other similar forms of music, but rap is good too once in a while.
Racism ftw. I have heard Nas and Kanye. Doesn't change anything about what I've said. I'm speaking of what's popular in rap. I actually enjoy listening to some of the local rap guys, they tend to speak intelligently.
0roo0roo
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yup sorry its not racism, its just the reality that not all forms of "music" are equal. jazz/blues/r&b are clearly superior to rap. and well, those have a heavy representation of actual talent from african americans and wide spread popularity with "whites". rap is dumbing down, and hiding behind the race card doesn't make it anything more than it is. it is commercial cr@p where image matters more than talent and originality is unecessary.
As is generally any popular music... That's how young America is.
I would agree that maybe rap isn't as musically involved as jazz, etc... And I would hope that's what you mean. But that doesn't keep the better rap out there from being legitimate music.
mainstream rap lyrics are mostly crap that boast about making it by selling drugs, shooting it up, etc...
however, i do listen to some of them for their catchy beats and music the same way i listen to dance/trance music.
one of my favorite rap songs, lyrically, is tupac's "wonder why they call u bitch." wish every girl heard this song.
however, i do listen to some of them for their catchy beats and music the same way i listen to dance/trance music.
one of my favorite rap songs, lyrically, is tupac's "wonder why they call u bitch." wish every girl heard this song.
CKent
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I'm listening to some Aesop Rock right now, and it's just so <3. If any of the rap haters here were genuine (as opposed to masking racism) I'd recommend it... but telling a racist to open his mind is like telling Michael Jackson that the female body is beautiful... so I'll save my breath, and enjoy the knowledge that by simply being openminded, I'm far more intelligent, enlightened and educated than 90% of a tech board, which by ordinary standards is itself considered intelligent... ph34r my br41n~!
Inspector Jihad
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Inspector Jihad
Lifer
- Apr 17, 2005
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(Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
(Ft. Killah Priest)
Basic instructions before leavin' Earth
Basic instructions before leavin' Earth
Basic instructions before leavin' Earth
ChorusX2)
Life is a test, many quest the universe
N' through my research, I felt the joy N' the hurt
The first shall be last N' the last shall be first
The basic instructions before leavin' Earth
(Killah Priest)
Knowledge this wisdom, this goes back when I was twelve
I love doin' right but I was trapped in Hell
Had mad ideas, sad eyes N' tears
Years of fear, but yo my foes couldn't bear
I searched for the truth since my youth
N' went to church since birth, but it wasn't worth the loot
That I was payin', plus the prayin'
I didn't like stayin' cuz of bizzie-bodies
N' dizzy-hotties
That the preach-ass souped up with lies
Had couped up, lookin' at loot, butt N' thighs
During the service, he swallowed up the poor
N' after they heard this, they wallowed on the floor
But I ignored, N' explored my history that was untold
N' watched mysteries unfold
N' dropped the jewel like Solomon, but never followed men
Cuz if you do your brain is more hollow then
Space oblivia, or the abyss
With no trace of trivia, left with the hiss
Does it pay to be deaf, dumb, or blind
From a slave he was kept from the mind
N' from a caves he crept from behind
N' what he gave was the sect of the swine
When the bible, that condemned the pig
I don't mean to pull your hems or flip your wigs
But we used to wear a turban, but now were in the urban
No more wearin' beanies or dress like the genie
No hocus pocus cuz I focus on the facts
N' put it on the track or brought it through the wax
I speak on Jacob, it might take up some time
N' too much knowledge, it might break up the ryhme
I did it anyway, just to wake up the mind
Of those who kiss stones or prays on the carpet
Those who sit at home, or sell books by the market
Need to chill N' get their mind revived
For years, religion did nothing but divide
chorus(X2)
I strolled through the books of Job to unfold
N' opened bibles, instead of hopin' on revivals
Callin' on his name N' screaming Halleluja
When he hardly knew ya, that's how the devils fooled ya
See, look into my eyes brethren, that's the lies of a Reverend
Why should you die to go to heaven
The Earth is already in space
The bible I embrace
A difficult task I had to take
I studied till my eyes was swollen
N' only arose when I found out that we were the chosen
I deal with the truth N' build with the youth
N' teach my son as he kneels on the stoop
Son, life is a pool of sin, corrupted with foolish men
N' women with wicked minds who build picket signs
To legalize abortion, the evil eye extortion
I quiz some with my wisdom
Before I converted I was perverted
N' knowledge was asserted
The study of wisdom, I perferred it
The understandin', it gave me mental freedom
I even learnt Caucasians were really the Tribe of Edam
The white image of Christ is really Cesare Borgia
N' uh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The sixth of Rome N' once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome
I prophesized to save a man but no one gave a damn
For my nation, the seed of Abraham
Blessed with the tongue of Hebrew
Now we're strung on needles, N' some are plungin' evils
So study N' be wise in these days of darkness
Peace to my nephew Marcus
chorus
Inspector Jihad
Lifer
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You're missing the main theme of my idea.
i never said that these guys weren't drug addicts, that's just anti-rock if they aren't
every band was riddled with drug abuse and you know most of the times they did it, it was to allow their fans on tour to receive a better experience.
Take David Gahan of Depeche mode for instance, only time he did the stuff was on tour and it made the show much more exciting.
obviously there are more pro's to just pleasing the fans on these drugs. But their music lives on for ages man, that's what i'm trying to say:
Street fighting man, almost the an infamous theme in today's world.
Time, Money in Dark side of the moon, psychadelic rock at it's finest, you think that this is "Rap qualitY" music?
What about Supernova and the numerous other classics Oasis has brought, riddled with abuse just like the rest, but unlike the rappers they have something the pass on to the people, they have music to define an ERA, music for the masses as Depeche would say.
What about The Who and "who are you", everyone has heard that tune, you think Townshend didn't do drugs either?
The thing I am saying is that drugs are everywhere, Richard ashcroft in The Verve(closest thing we had to Floyd-psychadelic) took record amounts of methamphedamines to produce "a northern soul".
Cobaine killed himself to prolong a genre of music that was huge in america, and eventually got owned by a group named "oasis" and "blur" and "the verve", aka british rock or what we now cal l"britpop".
Legendary rock bands have always done the drugs and there is no question, but they messages they convey in their music is totally different from what they did in real life. Their music and themselves are 2 seperate entities and lets never get them mixed up.
You are telling me that Notorious BIG and Tupac priainsg themselves and saying they're going to kill people and push cocaine in their music is no different from Rock bands taking the drugs? Please explain.
God Jihad, you're a f***ing retard. Maybe you should read my post before you try to refute it. Wow, that's some good poetry. Too bad there is no musical content. I doubt most rappers know a damn thing about musicality, and I have only heard a few who utilize anything musical in their "songs"
moshquerade
No Lifer
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I can, but I am an adult, so sad this music is marketed towards "childreN" (10-15)
Who can pick up "adult advisory" cd's when they're not supposed to and the clerk doesn't give a damn.
Look at my article above.
Who can pick up "adult advisory" cd's when they're not supposed to and the clerk doesn't give a damn.
Look at my article above.
Just listen to The Roots if you think rap doesn't have musicality. Actually, nevermind. I couldn't get any of you anti-rap people to do that if your lives depended on it.
Just trust when I say The Roots has musicality, since by musicality you seem to mean the use of instruments. Does that count? Or does the fact that they're not singing mean that it's not music?
Just trust when I say The Roots has musicality, since by musicality you seem to mean the use of instruments. Does that count? Or does the fact that they're not singing mean that it's not music?
Turn the TV off and Watch what your children are buying.
Parents with Responsibilty for their children FTW.
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