(R) Elector - "Why I Will Not Cast My Electoral Vote for Donald Trump"

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fskimospy

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And he wasn't convicted of those, so it doesn't matter. He also wasn't a sitting president.

Irrelevant. Bill Clinton wasn't convicted of perjury either. The fact that he wasn't a sitting president also doesn't matter and is explicitly addressed in the link I provided that you obviously didn't read. If Democrats retake Congress in two years they could easily impeach him for this on day one.

Yeah, that's why all of these countries are stopping donations. Because it wasn't bribery.

It is pretty amusing to me that when Trump's fraud and racketeering comes up you say 'he wasn't convicted!' despite him having to pay $25 million in restitution and the fact that Trump is literally on tape making repeated false claims about his scam university but when Clinton comes up you say she is guilty of bribery despite there also being no conviction and more importantly, literally zero evidence that any bribery occurred.

I have to say, I'm impressed by your capacity for irrational thinking.
 

LegendKiller

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lol indeed. sad little troll. you cite twitter, which could literally be some 12 year old spouting nonsense, and scoff at pbs, go play in traffic twatwaffle.
Or you could go to the morons page, see the marketing company he uses, do your own research and find out ultra prog van Jones started and heads it. You know, like do your own research and independently verify rather than just dismiss because...reasons.

But I wouldn't expect you to do that, you lack the brainpower and intellectual curiosity. That's why you depend on spoonfed corp news.
 
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Or you could go to the morons page, see the marketing company he uses, do your own research and find out ultra prog van Jones started and heads it. You know, like do your own research and independently verify rather than just dismiss because...reasons.

But I wouldn't expect you to do that, you lack the brainpower and intellectual curiosity. That's why you depend on spoonfed corp news.
you have zero idea how I garner my news, zero.
however, the way you obtain 'news' is painfully obvious.
 
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Sure I do. You can tell by your response that about the only thing you trust is curated news.
if by curated you mean I usually look for at least 3 sources then yes. And by sources anything other than breitbart, fox, msnbc, cnn, etc.
you, on the other hand think several of those are credible sources, including twitter, lol.
 

zinfamous

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Sure I do. You can tell by your response that about the only thing you trust is curated news.

It's like you cock up a new term for every concept that suddenly displeases you, and you have to find new ways to explain away the uncomfortable assault of truths arrayed against your discredited world view.

Fascinating.
 
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It's like you cock up a new term for every concept that suddenly displeases you, and you have to find new was to explain away the uncomfortable assault of truths arrayed against your discredited world view.

Fascinating.
welcome back Zin. always appreciated your insight, and your avatar. just don't cut me man.
 

Sunburn74

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Depends. Always have to verify on your own.
Wow. Just wow. Literally this is fake moonlanding level conspiracy and distrust. I honestly don't know how you function. Do you eat food sold in grocery stores or do you assume it's all laced with mind controlling agents until you have independently verified their absence in your personal basement chemical lab?
 

sandorski

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Wow. Just wow. Literally this is fake moonlanding level conspiracy and distrust. I honestly don't know how you function. Do you eat food sold in grocery stores or do you assume it's all laced with mind controlling agents until you have independently verified their absence in your personal basement chemical lab?

We all need to grab our guns and check out that Pizza joints basement! Let's meet out front and form a line.
 

bshole

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The one silver lining about a Trump presidency is you KNOW there are going to entertaining scandals coming out of it left and right. I mean the guy is basically bragging about his corruption at this point.

It will be very entertaining to watch the exact process he uses to destroy our 401ks and retirement accounts. In this instance I prefer not be entertained.
 
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momeNt

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This abolish the EC movement or EC voters willing to forego their states results in favor of the national results is pretty horrible given the name of our country. United STATES of America.

There is an alarming number of people in this country that really don't want to acknowledge states at all, they want to be like the rest of the world perhaps, the fact is, the rest of the world wishes they could have at one point had states clamoring to be a part of their shitty nation. Instead they had to go to war to subjugate people to expand their power and influence.

Pretty shameful that the Americans want to be subjugated by a national power and lose their identity as inhabitants of a state.
 

zinfamous

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It will be very entertaining to watch the exact process he uses to destroy our 401ks and retirement accounts. In this instance I prefer not be entertained.

I'm not planning to retire in the next 4-6 years, so I somewhat champion the inevitable collapse: it makes stocks and funds super cheap to buy!

sucks for the retirees, though.
 

zinfamous

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This abolish the EC movement or EC voters willing to forego their states results in favor of the national results is pretty horrible given the name of our country. United STATES of America.

There is an alarming number of people in this country that really don't want to acknowledge states at all, they want to be like the rest of the world perhaps, the fact is, the rest of the world wishes they could have at one point had states clamoring to be a part of their shitty nation. Instead they had to go to war to subjugate people to expand their power and influence.

Pretty shameful that the Americans want to be subjugated by a national power and lose their identity as inhabitants of a state.

I really hope this was posted with all-intended irony.
 
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bshole

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I'm not planning to retire in the next 4-6 years, so I somewhat champion the inevitable collapse: it makes stocks and funds super cheap to buy!

sucks for the retirees, though.

Remember when you and Eski told me that I was wrong to get out of the market? God damn I wish I had listened. I am down so bad right now. I sold mid 17s and we are now in the 19s. I just cannot make a right move. Every independent move I ever made I got slaughtered on. It looks like history is repeating itself yet again. I feel like robbing a bank....
 
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This abolish the EC movement or EC voters willing to forego their states results in favor of the national results is pretty horrible given the name of our country. United STATES of America.

There is an alarming number of people in this country that really don't want to acknowledge states at all, they want to be like the rest of the world perhaps, the fact is, the rest of the world wishes they could have at one point had states clamoring to be a part of their shitty nation. Instead they had to go to war to subjugate people to expand their power and influence.

Pretty shameful that the Americans want to be subjugated by a national power and lose their identity as inhabitants of a state.
Fun fact: did you know most states are creatures of the Federal Government, formed by carving them out of Federal territories or existing state land?
 

fskimospy

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This abolish the EC movement or EC voters willing to forego their states results in favor of the national results is pretty horrible given the name of our country. United STATES of America.

There is an alarming number of people in this country that really don't want to acknowledge states at all, they want to be like the rest of the world perhaps, the fact is, the rest of the world wishes they could have at one point had states clamoring to be a part of their shitty nation. Instead they had to go to war to subjugate people to expand their power and influence.

Pretty shameful that the Americans want to be subjugated by a national power and lose their identity as inhabitants of a state.

Yeah, imagine that, people who live in America identify as Americans, not as Pennsylvanians or Californians and they want the country's institutions to catch up.

By the way, as far as not going to war to subjugate people or expand our influence... uhmm.... what.
 
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Speaking for myself. Yes, yes i do.
shocking, simply shocking that you'd believe that.
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momeNt

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Yeah, imagine that, people who live in America identify as Americans, not as Pennsylvanians or Californians and they want the country's institutions to catch up.

By the way, as far as not going to war to subjugate people or expand our influence... uhmm.... what.

Years of Nationalist propaganda will do that. But I think we can all agree that the constitutional is not geared towards running our nation like others. The constitution is essentially a confederate document. What is the correct answer in trying to re-tool the federal government to become like the great nations we aspire to overseas or up north?
 
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It's like you cock up a new term for every concept that suddenly displeases you, and you have to find new ways to explain away the uncomfortable assault of truths arrayed against your discredited world view.

Fascinating.
".........In October, President Obama complained that we need a “curating function” to deal with the “wild-wild-west-of-information flow.” ............................ "