Quoting Winston Churchill’s criticism of Islam contributes to U.K. politician’s arres

[Orignal Earl]

You can guess that if you want, but you'll sound as stupid as you did earlier.

Your never wrong are you Terry, good luck with that

 

[Orignal Earl]

If the money was equally divided among the population as you allude too, you would still have rich and poor in short order, along with the socio-economic stratification and other things that go along with it.

Just a fact of life.

We wouldn't have all the madrasas teaching terror now though would we

 

[davmat787]

We wouldn't have all the madrasas teaching terror now though would we

Why would that be the case? You think money going to the masses would solve terrorism? Wasn't Bin Laden a wealthy guy?

No, the madrasas will close when the public, or rather religion, at large wants them to, simple as that.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The US is not going to let the Taliban come to America and certainly does not think of them as friends
You say you served 7 years as military intelligence, and you come up with that?
Muslims have served in the US mil before you were born and fight and die everyday for America
You make up stories and spread BS

tell us something new about Muslims that we don`t know??

You have no clue concerning Muslims.....
You have no clue as to how long or if I still am in Military Intelligence.
If you would like to discuss this subject in any of the Arabic languages we can.....
Show us what you know and please don`t use Google translate.....

Again I will voice an opinion is that is not a popular one but it is very true.....

There is quite a lot of people saying that not all Muslims are extremists and what not..........
I will tell you that those who sit at home and say they just want to live and not get involved are doing nobody a favor by not standing up to their Muslim brothers. In fact if you truly knew anything about Muslims you would know and understand that the majority who choose not to speak out against the extremist in reality approve of what the exteemists are doing!!

yet there are those who choose to take a stand against and we need to encourage them to fight the good fight so to speak!!



Earl you can spin whatever you want anyway you want..it does not mean you are right.

What it does mean is that your a fool and not very intelligent!

 

[Orignal Earl]

Why would that be the case? You think money going to the masses would solve terrorism? Wasn't Bin Laden a wealthy guy?

Are you saying the royals would be as rich as they are even if they didn't control all the oil money? The Bins were their buddies
There's always going to be terrorists, but I'm sure if you don't train kids to be terrorists, there would be a lot less right?
If your falling back on Muslims want to take over the world, then I'm wasting my time

 

[davmat787]

tell us something new about Muslims that we don`t know??

You have no clue concerning Muslims.....
You have no clue as to how long or if I still am in Military Intelligence.
If you would like to discuss this subject in any of the Arabic languages we can.....
Show us what you know and please don`t use Google translate.....

Again I will voice an opinion is that is not a popular one but it is very true.....

There is quite a lot of people saying that not all Muslims are extremists and what not..........
I will tell you that those who sit at home and say they just want to live and not get involved are doing nobody a favor by not standing up to their Muslim brothers. In fact if you truly knew anything about Muslims you would know and understand that the majority who choose not to speak out against the extremist in reality approve of what the exteemists are doing!!

yet there are those who choose to take a stand against and we need to encourage them to fight the good fight so to speak!!



Earl you can spin whatever you want anyway you want..it does not mean you are right.

What it does mean is that your a fool and not very intelligent!

Kind of like how history has judged the people who didn't speak up during the civil rights era abuses as being in the wrong?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I will tell you that those who sit at home and say they just want to live and not get involved are doing nobody a favor by not standing up to their Muslim brothers. In fact if you truly knew anything about Muslims you would know and understand that the majority who choose not to speak out against the extremist in reality approve of what the exteemists are doing!!

BS
I worked with Muslims for years and consider them my friends, I visited their homes and met their families.
You sound just like the BS that the Nazi's came up with in the past against your own people.
That makes you a Nazi

edit- Expecting Muslims to have to apologize every time a terrorist acts, is like condemning them too
Why aren't you apologizing every time a Jewish extremist commits terror?
Where's your sorry for every time an American kills someone?

 

[davmat787]

Are you saying the royals would be as rich as they are even if they didn't control all the oil money? The Bins were their buddies
There's always going to be terrorists, but I'm sure if you don't train kids to be terrorists, there would be a lot less right?
If your falling back on Muslims want to take over the world, then I'm wasting my time

Who controls the oil money in your scenario then? All I said was that if the oil money was equally dispersed among the population, you would still end up with rich and poor and everything in between. Some people are better at making money with their money and some people simply spend like crazy and have no money skills.

Yes there would be less terrorists if kids were not brainwashed into that culture of acceptance of violence and hatred, no one would think otherwise. I specifically asked why you think madrasas would cease to exist in the scenario? You said it, now why do you think they would no longer exist? That so hard?

No idea where you got the muslims take over the world bit, I am baffled at the mention of it.

 

[davmat787]

BS
I worked with Muslims for years and consider them my friends, I visited their homes and met their families.
You sound just like the BS that the Nazi's came up with in the past against your own people.
That makes you a Nazi

And I'm not racist because my lawn guys are mexican and my car detailer is black.

That personal anecdote is just as valid as someone who was a hostage of muslims for years claiming the opposite of what you claim.

I am really not trying to be a jerk to you, but come on.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Who controls the oil money in your scenario then? All I said was that if the oil money was equally dispersed among the population, you would still end up with rich and poor and everything in between. Some people are better at making money with their money and some people simply spend like crazy and have no money skills.

Yes there would be less terrorists if kids were not brainwashed into that culture of acceptance of violence and hatred, no one would think otherwise. I specifically asked why you think madrasas would cease to exist in the scenario? You said it, now why do you think they would no longer exist? That so hard?

No idea where you got the muslims take over the world bit, I am baffled at the mention of it.

I figured you could be taking the Terry route, spinning and then accusing everyone of spinning
Just covering my bases in one post, so I don't have to start over

 

[Orignal Earl]

And I'm not racist because my lawn guys are mexican and my car detailer is black.

That personal anecdote is just as valid as someone who was a hostage of muslims for years claiming the opposite of what you claim.

I am really not trying to be a jerk to you, but come on.

That's not what I said, there is a difference between having someone cut your grass and being friends with them. When I say friends it means a personal relationship, not an employee or someone who I smile and wave at

 

[davmat787]

I figured you could be taking the Terry route, spinning and then accusing everyone of spinning
Just covering my bases in one post, so I don't have to start over

Again, why do you think the madrasas would cease to exist?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Again, why do you think the madrasas would cease to exist?

If the US did not start them, and then give money to the royal family to start more of them, and we are just talking about terror madrasas's? Then they would not exist right?

 

[Subyman]

I don't see how quoting something inflammatory makes you immune to their "hate speech" laws. I'm not from Britain and I find the fundamental law disturbing, that one can't say what they wish without being arrested, but I can also see how using a quote to speak "hate" wouldn't make you immune to such laws.

IMO, ye ole' British need to push for more freedom of speech and use this as the catalyst.

 

[davmat787]

If the US did not start them, and then give money to the royal family to start more of them, and we are just talking about terror madrasas's? Then they would not exist right?

Why mention the US and money flowing to the royal family to start them now?

I made this comment:

If the money was equally divided among the population as you allude too, you would still have rich and poor in short order, along with the socio-economic stratification and other things that go along with it.

Just a fact of life.

To which you replied:

We wouldn't have all the madrasas teaching terror now though would we

All I am asking is why do you think the madrasas would close in relation to my comment? I keep asking why you think this, and can't get a straight answer.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Why mention the US and money flowing to the royal family to start them now?

I made this comment:



To which you replied:



All I am asking is why do you think the madrasas would close in relation to my comment? I keep asking why you think this, and can't get a straight answer.

Ya, I guess I can't see the problem your having
I mentioned the US this time because I was thinking " is he going to say the US would of built more then anyway?"
To me it looks clear as day, if the royal family did not have the funds to build more terror schools, they couldn't build more terror schools.
I don't know any other way of putting it

 

[davmat787]

Ya, I guess I can't see the problem your having
I mentioned the US this time because I was thinking " is he going to say the US would of built more then anyway?"
To me it looks clear as day, if the royal family did not have the funds to build more terror schools, they couldn't build more terror schools.
I don't know any other way of putting it

Even if tomorrow the funds for terror schools suddenly stopped, the extremists would still find a way to spread their message of hate and brainwash the willing. Why? Because that is what extremists do, and I am sure they would find other sponsors in short order.

I guess it comes down to the fact that I see the problem as being more complex than simply the flow of money from royal families to the building of schools. That alone does not answer WHY they would give so much money to spread terrorism, and the WHY is way more important than the how.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Even if tomorrow the funds for terror schools suddenly stopped, the extremists would still find a way to spread their message of hate and brainwash the willing. Why? Because that is what extremists do, and I am sure they would find other sponsors in short order.

I guess it comes down to the fact that I see the problem as being more complex than simply the flow of money from royal families to the building of schools. That alone does not answer WHY they would give so much money to spread terrorism, and the WHY is way more important than the how.

Well, we know the US did it to fight back against the Russians in Afghanistan
We know other groups in Africa do it because they want minority groups out
We know Bundie types do it because want government out
We know the IRA did it because because they wanted England out
It mostly seems to evolve around people thinking they have rights over some land

 

[TerryMathews]

Your never wrong are you Terry, good luck with that

If you knew anything at all, you'd know that wasn't true. Hell, if you looked through my posts I admit when I'm wrong quite a bit. Which, obviously, is more than can be said for you.

Have fun in Cannukistan, subject. I'll be enjoying my freedom without the weight of the Royal boot on my neck.

 

[TerryMathews]

That alone does not answer WHY they would give so much money to spread terrorism, and the WHY is way more important than the how.

Perhaps, for motivation, we could look at the fact that those who kill "infidels" in the name of the prophet are to receive 72 virgins in Heaven?

 

[Agent11]

So that any time there is a population disparity with too many angry young males they conquer more territory rather than sow internal discord.

Quite nice for a medieval society; rather destructive for a core belief in a civilized one.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Have fun in Cannukistan, subject. I'll be enjoying my freedom without the weight of the Royal boot on my neck.

No matter how bad things get in the US. You can always at least look to Canada and Somalia and think to yourself "Well, at least I don't live in those hellholes"

 

[TerryMathews]

I figured you could be taking the Terry route, spinning and then accusing everyone of spinning
Just covering my bases in one post, so I don't have to start over

Please explain how you weren't spinning, because we went from child marriage to 1880's Delaware to your Muslim doctor to women in India to you bitching about how you weren't really spinning.

All to avoid discussing this British subject and how he's been arrested for quoting the British equivalent of Roosevelt or Truman.

 

[TerryMathews]

No matter how bad things get in the US. You can always at least look to Canada and Somalia and think to yourself "Well, at least I don't live in those hellholes"

Things are great where I live. Crime is low, gun ownership is high, I've got the freedom to speak my mind, have a bonfire, and own a gas guzzler

I don't want you to feel slighted though, Canada isn't the only place I'd refuse to live. Chicago and DC are high on the list as well.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Please explain how you weren't spinning, because we went from child marriage to 1880's Delaware to your Muslim doctor to women in India to you bitching about how you weren't really spinning.

All to avoid discussing this British subject and how he's been arrested for quoting the British equivalent of Roosevelt or Truman.

They are Brits let them deal it their way.