Questions re: your cause.

[tim0thy]

I want to be part of your cause (referred by Dennilfloss), and I looked at the page (http://www.tacube.com/pages/client.html) with the clients. The only problem is that I will not put this on my workstation at work (which is on production), but I'll be glad to install it on my test network. For reasons of security and conflict with the production network, it has no network connection (i'm running servers on the test network). Dennilfloss referred me to Sneaky (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pauleric.despretz/en-prog.htm#Sneaky), but I'm unsure how to use this program. Can someone offer assistance?

Tim

 

[Russ]

tim0thy,

Sneaky is wonderfully easy to use. First step (obviously), is unzip it. Then place the executable in the same directory as the RC5 client. If you used the TA Cube install floppy, this will be RC5. Do this for all the machines that will be cracking.

From a machine that is web connected, open up sneaky. You will see 4 choices with check boxes. Check the one that says "Fetch from Dnet to floppy". Below is a quantity box and block size box. The quantity is the number of "packets". The size determines how many blocks are in a packet.

For example, if you fill in 100 and 33, you will get 3200 blocks. Sneaky will cycle twice. Once to grab the first 2K and then again to grab the other 1200. Once it has done this, it will ask for a floppy disk. Pop the disk in and it will put the buff in file on it.

Take the disk to a machine you want to load up, put the floppy in and open sneaky. Select "Fetch from floppy to PC". It will copy the buffer over, then start the client cracking. Delete that buffer file from the floppy, head back to the connected machine, repeat.

Just do the process in reverse for flushing from the non-connected machines.

Russ, NCNE

 

[tim0thy]

ok cool... i was just wondering if i had to install it on BOTH PCs, but i guess you answered my question. is there anything else that i need to know? all my blocks will belong to TACube?

 

[tim0thy]

also, what's a good number of blocks i should get for each machine? (what's the maximum size that i can fit on a floppy anyways?)... are the settings 100 and 2^33?

 

[Russ]

The only other thing to consider is the speed of the machines and how often you want to flush them. You just want to make sure that you give them enough to eat in between feedings. To get an idea of the dietary requirements of your cows, you can check here:

Speed calculator.

EDIT: I see you slid in and asked the question I just answered. You can fit more blocks then you'll ever need on a floppy if you select 2^33. A buffer of 16000 blocks at that size is about 180K.

I just used the number 100 as an example. You can grab as many as you want. Just be aware that Sneaky will cycle once for each 2K in blocks so, say for example, you grabbed 500 at 33, it would cycle eight times because it would be fetching 16,000 blocks.

Russ, NCNE

 

[tim0thy]

well, i have the computers on all the time, so i think i'll just feed them and let them rip. thanks for your help.

 

[mechBgon]

Welcome to the Team, tim0thy!

 

[tim0thy]

seems like i have problems fetching packets (i think they block the port... 2087?). after it downloads the packets, where is it located? i'm attempting to download it on my laptop through dislup (no FDD) and then transfer it to my test network via ethernet.

thanks for the welcome, but wait till i send my first cracked packet.

 

[tim0thy]

russ:
so 16000 @ 2^33 = 180k?
what's the significance of 2^x? i noticed it said 00 for actual size, so what happens if i told it to do 16000 @ 2^00?

 

[Russ]

tim0thy,

Unfortunately, Sneaky will only work with a floppy. So, here's what you'll need to do:

In the folder "RC5" open up the dnetc.ini file. Find the section that says:

[rc5]
preferred-blocksize=33
fetch-workunit-threshold=xxx
randomprefix=xxx

Change the threshold number to however many blocks you want to grab. Use a multiple of 32. Then, restart the client, right click anywhere in the console readout and select "fetch work".

After it has grabbed the blocks, copy the buff-in.rc5 file over to the cow that you want to start cracking, then start the client on that cow.

Then, on your connected machine, delete the buff-in, restart the client and repeat above.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

If you do do 16000 @ 2^00 you'll get fat, bloated buffer files. You might also end up fetching several hundred thousand blocks depending on what the keyserver has available. Remember, that first number is "packets". A packet can contain anywhere from one to 32 blocks.

2^33 is always the best choice. Not only does it keep the file sizes smaller, it puts lets stress on the client machines and the keyservers during updates.

Russ, NCNE

 

[tim0thy]

sorry to be a pain in the ass, but what's the significance of the BI.SNK file? is that the cracked packets?

 

[Russ]

That is the backup buffer in file that Sneaky creates as a safety measure. Cracked blocks are the "buff-out.rc5" file.

Russ, NCNE

 

[tim0thy]

ok gotcha. how do you know who is cracking more than others? do you guys go by ip addresses?

 

[tim0thy]

also... how do i upload the buff-out.rc5 file?

 

[Bakwetu]

I believe the latest version of the borg disk will send your cracked blocks to Russ' pproxy where you can check your stats by host

edit if it doesn't you have to add these line in dnetc.ini:
[networking]
autofindkeyserver=no
keyserver=207.108.218.138

BTW Welcome to the team

 

[cpars]

Tim0thy,

Here are the stats for the TA cube

I never used the sneaky thingy I just install the dnet program on the machine and onto a floppy as well, and then switch the buffers whenever I feel like updating and take to my machine thats always connected and fire it up from the floppy and hit update and then take back to the non networked machine and swap buffers and fire it back up.

probably the long way around !!:Q

 

[tim0thy]

damn, my machines are slow... i just broke out a new 866 hehe...

currently, it says the keyserver is tacube.teamanandtech.com = 207.108.218.138 heh...

 

[cpars]

yep

 

[tim0thy]

cpars, that's essentially what i'm doing now... except my laptop is sorta acting like the gateway, so i don't have to swap disks.

 

[Bakwetu]

..and I have one machine at home with no internet connection. After it has finished cracking the blocks, I take the buff.out file on a floppy and bring it to work, stop the rc5 on the work machine and take out the buff.in and buff.out files from the rc5 folder. Then I copy the buff.out (that came from home) to the rc5 folder and start the cruncher again. It then fetches new blocks and flushes the ones I brought in. The newly fetched ones goes to the floppy for transportation home, and the flushed buff-out file is deleted. Then I put back the original buff-in and buff-out files and continue cracking on my work machine.

 

[tim0thy]

is there a way for russ to change the IP which i am uploading the packets to my handle on anandtech... like when i reach a couple thousand blocks or something...

 

[cpars]

That saves alot of time and trouble, tim0thy

My gateway is a round trip to the downstairs shop/hobby/recroom

 

[cpars]

Just ask, he has for all that have as far as I know

 

[tim0thy]

yeah, my goal is to do this with as little brain work as possible... heh... i might just make a batch file yet.