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Question for those who are pro-choice...

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imported_Tomato

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I already know what pro-lifers' responses will be to this question, but for those who are pro-choice...

Would you support a privately-run company that paid women to get pregnant and then abort the fetuses after a certain amount of time (say, 20 weeks) in order to use them for scientific studies/experiments, in order to possibly find cures for diseases such as Parkinson's, etc.? All women undergoing the procedure would be informed of the risks involved and have to sign a consent.

For pro-choice supporters believe it is a woman's body and it is her right to do whatever she wants with it, would you support the aforementioned scenario for the furthering of science?

EDIT: Why or why not? Please explain your answer.
 
Abortion is illegal after 5 weeks if I remember correctly. I don't think that's really what abortion is about.....and your idea for a company to do that is different than stem cell research. I doubt it'd fly with anyone except some scientists that aren't running for office. 😛
 
Hell no, I am only pro choice for the person to make their own decision to have an abortion in certain situations such as rape, to just abort for a profit is just very very wrong IMO.

EDIT: This is only my views on the subject but would still not want laws put in place to prevent this sort of thing, it is the womans decisions and not the governments IMO.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.
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*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.

Why not offer a financial incentive for women who would be willing to get pregnant and have an abortion, assuming they knew all the risks involved, for the purpose of science? And possibly helping millions upon potentially finding a cure for innumerable diseases?
 
I think its an absolutely horrific idea and I dont know under what possible circumstances this could be beneficial (but I know thats not the topic).

That being said, its her baby and her body, not mine, and she can do with it as she pleases. I wouldn't be happy about it, but thats not enough to say they can't do it.
 
I'm pro-self (being that I respect other's opinions if they choose to abort or not while I personally am pro-life)

but I would definaitely not support that kind of company.
 
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.
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*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.

Why not offer a financial incentive for women who would be willing to get pregnant and have an abortion, assuming they knew all the risks involved, for the purpose of science? And possibly helping millions upon potentially finding a cure for innumerable diseases?
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Just because I believe it isn't my place to restrict what another person kills, does not mean I want to promote it.
 
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
I think its an absolutely horrific idea and I dont know under what possible circumstances this could be beneficial (but I know thats not the topic).

That being said, its her baby and her body, not mine, and she can do with it as she pleases. I wouldn't be happy about it, but thats not enough to say they can't do it.
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Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.
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*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.

Why not offer a financial incentive for women who would be willing to get pregnant and have an abortion, assuming they knew all the risks involved, for the purpose of science? And possibly helping millions upon potentially finding a cure for innumerable diseases?
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but you are like encouraging women to get pregnant for a certain period of time and then aborting it.

that's just wrong.

it's not as if you got pregnant and then aborted right away.
 
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Abortion is illegal after 5 weeks if I remember correctly. I don't think that's really what abortion is about.....and your idea for a company to do that is different than stem cell research. I doubt it'd fly with anyone except some scientists that aren't running for office. 😛
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Abortions can be done from 6-22 weeks.

And I can't take credit for the idea... it's an issue that came up in Robin Cook's book "Seizure". I've been debating some of the moral/ethical issues with my fiance and coworker. 😛
 
you can't contract to sell body parts/people, so, no.

i mean, why not pay poor people for a kidney? they only need one, right?
 
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.
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*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.
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Because, I think you'll find that most pro-choice people are ok with abortion under extreme circumstances (e.g. rape), but don't condone abortion as a way out if you forgot to use protection. Its not the experimentation on the fetus that would concern me, its the abortion for the purpose of experimentation part that I would have difficulty with.

The people that are ok with abortion under any circumstance (accidental pregnancy, changed your mind, etc.) - thats almost a 3rd category IMHO.

 
My view on it is, if she had a baby, I wouldn't give a fvck. If she doesn't have a baby... I still don't give a fvck. It's absolutely none of my business either way. I mean, unless it's your kid, you have no reason to stick your nose in.
 
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Abortion is illegal after 5 weeks if I remember correctly. I don't think that's really what abortion is about.....and your idea for a company to do that is different than stem cell research. I doubt it'd fly with anyone except some scientists that aren't running for office. 😛
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Abortions can be done from 6-22 weeks.

And I can't take credit for the idea... it's an issue that came up in Robin Cook's book "Seizure". I've been debating some of the moral/ethical issues with my fiance and coworker. 😛
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The idea has been around for a long time.
 
Originally posted by: blazert40
Hell no, I am only pro choice for the person to make their own decision to have an abortion in certain situations such as rape, to just abort for a profit is just very very wrong IMO.

EDIT: This is only my views on the subject but would still not want laws put in place to prevent this sort of thing, it is the womans decisions and not the governments IMO.
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Morally I'm pro-life, legally I'm pro-choice.

In terms of aborting for a profit, I agree it seems very very wrong, but... for whatever reason, I couldn't express exactly WHY it was very very wrong to my fiance/coworker I was arguing with about the issue. Because of the beliefs I hold being pro-choice legally... that it's a woman's right to choose, abortion should be permitted if a woman wants to get one for whatever reason, etc, it was hard to back up my opinion. After all, people donate sperm and eggs for a profit, so what's to stop a woman from doing something like this if the opportunity were to become available?
 
There is a difference between regretfully and sadly terminating an unwanted pregnancy and in doing what you are describing.

We don't allow people to profit from adoption,well, we do if you're a lawyer,an adoption agency, an OB/GYN or a social worker..just not desparate mothers.
 
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.
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*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.

Why not offer a financial incentive for women who would be willing to get pregnant and have an abortion, assuming they knew all the risks involved, for the purpose of science? And possibly helping millions upon potentially finding a cure for innumerable diseases?
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but you are like encouraging women to get pregnant for a certain period of time and then aborting it.

that's just wrong.

it's not as if you got pregnant and then aborted right away.
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That's what I was trying to debate with my fiance and coworker. I kept saying "That's just wrong", and they kept asking, "Well, what's so wrong about it? It's her body and people donate sperm and eggs for money all the time, so why not pay a woman to abort in order to do scientific research on the resulting fetus? Some pro-choice people believe it isn't even a life until it's born, so what's wrong with aborting it at 5, 10, 20 weeks?"
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
you can't contract to sell body parts/people, so, no.

i mean, why not pay poor people for a kidney? they only need one, right?
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Right now, it is perfectly legal for a woman to sell her eggs for money and for a man to sell his sperm for money.
 
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