Question for those who are pro-choice...

[yhelothar]

Um can't they just grow the fetus in a test tube, or at least grow it enough that they can get the embryonic stem cells they need.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: BannedTroll

Originally posted by: Gooose
Yes i would,

if they want to, then they should

why does religion get into everything?

😕 Did I miss the religous arguement?

Only someone who believes in a god and maybe other supernatural/spiritual type things would see fetuses as anything more than the lumps of cells that they are. And religion gets into everything because we have a lot of advancing to do as a species 🙁

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Leave it to Tomato to post flamebait threads. :roll: Abortion makes me sick, but it's one of those topics that used to get loads and loads of discussion here. The three most popular flamebait topics are gun control, religion, and abortion. Congrats, Tomato! :roll:

 

[Aharami]

thats putting a price on human heads. no i wouldnt be for that. but I wouldnt try to go blow up the office were there anything like that in my neighborhood. those women have free will and they'd only be screwing themselves over by gettin abortion that late.

 

[her209]

I'm pro-choice but I don't support this concept... this is a very bad idea... imagine some woman getting forced into aborting because the father 1) doesn't want it and 2) gets compensated for it.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: her209
I'm pro-choice but I don't support this concept... this is a very bad idea... imagine some woman getting forced into aborting because the father 1) doesn't want it and 2) gets compensated for it.

By the same blatant disregard for the sanctity of human life, you could use the same "no" arguement against abortion as a whole because people use the excuse of "oh we can just have an abortion" to justify their irresponsible and immoral behavior.

 

[Shawn]

No. I think abortion should only be used for reasons such as rape. I know I wouldn't want to have the child of some sick fvck.

 

[OulOat]

19,000 thousand African children die each day, yet I don't see any protests about it. All I see are those commericals on TV about African charities, and I'm not sure if they even run anymore. Therefore, this shouldn't be such a big deal, since all those pro-life people are letting those African children die.

 

[Mo0o]

Sure

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Nik
By the same blatant disregard for the sanctity of human life, you could use the same "no" arguement against abortion as a whole because people use the excuse of "oh we can just have an abortion" to justify their irresponsible and immoral behavior.

And the same argument can be made against divorce. Too many people enter into marraiges knowing that they can 1) decide they don't want it 2) get compensated for it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Tomato

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No.

*puts on devil's advocate hat*

Why not? After all, abortions happen legally all the time anyway, and most pro-choice people have no problem with experiments performed on already aborted fetuses.

Why not offer a financial incentive for women who would be willing to get pregnant and have an abortion, assuming they knew all the risks involved, for the purpose of science? And possibly helping millions upon potentially finding a cure for innumerable diseases?

Been studying economics have we?

 

[Farvacola]

There is quite a fine line here when it comes to things like stem-cell research and abortion. I believe that if done in moderation and with the utmst respect for the woman and the woman's body, then I believe that something like that could help millions of people who suffer from diseases that are as of now, incurable.
Now, if it was like some assembly (Or dissassembly, I guess) line, with huge masses of women having their fetuses aborted, then that would be unacceptable. Nik, it may be disregard for what we, as a moral and religious populace, think of as a life, but how does that stand up when you bring into account the million who die around world of diseases that the cures are in reach, its just that we, being the world super power in research and development of medical technology, consider ourselves too moral to harvest the cells of an unborn fetus?

 

No, I wouldn't support it. Creating fetuses and destroying them systematically is NOT my idea of a productive endeavor, despite the fact there's 'medical research' behind it.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: her209
I'm pro-choice but I don't support this concept... this is a very bad idea... imagine some woman getting forced into aborting because the father 1) doesn't want it and 2) gets compensated for it.

By the same blatant disregard for the sanctity of human life, you could use the same "no" arguement against abortion as a whole because people use the excuse of "oh we can just have an abortion" to justify their irresponsible and immoral behavior.

Abortions will never replace condoms, they're far more expensive. What's immoral about sex?

 

[Merlyn3D]

I think it's the mother choice, either way.

 

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: maziwanka
very good post tomato....

im gonna have to think about this and get back to you (hopefully i won't forget about this thread! hahaha).

Thanks maziwanka! 🙂

Originally posted by: Nik
Leave it to Tomato to post flamebait threads. :roll: Abortion makes me sick, but it's one of those topics that used to get loads and loads of discussion here. The three most popular flamebait topics are gun control, religion, and abortion. Congrats, Tomato! :roll:

A number of posters seemed to think it was curious and thought-provoking enough, Nik. I think it's much more interesting than the "OMG I'M SO HAPPY EEEEEEEEEEE LOOK AT ME SMILING" threads. Sorry to strain your brain (I noticed you couldn't pull together enough brain cells to merit even a halfass response).

 

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: Farvacola
There is quite a fine line here when it comes to things like stem-cell research and abortion. I believe that if done in moderation and with the utmst respect for the woman and the woman's body, then I believe that something like that could help millions of people who suffer from diseases that are as of now, incurable.
Now, if it was like some assembly (Or dissassembly, I guess) line, with huge masses of women having their fetuses aborted, then that would be unacceptable. Nik, it may be disregard for what we, as a moral and religious populace, think of as a life, but how does that stand up when you bring into account the million who die around world of diseases that the cures are in reach, its just that we, being the world super power in research and development of medical technology, consider ourselves too moral to harvest the cells of an unborn fetus?

You have an excellent point Farvacola... tough to "tally up" the pros on both sides and compare, but the benefit of helping millions might be worth it..?

 

[iamwiz82]

Out of the worst of human actions comes some of the most important medical research. No one can deny that the terrible experiements of Josef Mengele have helped the medical community. Does this make it right? I'd say no, but then I think about the thousands (millions?) of people that may have been saved as a result of those experiments. German pharmaceutical companies to this day will not release what they learned during those times. Does that mean that we should stop using Bayer or BASF products?

It is an interesting ethical dilemma.