Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

[Raqia]

They perhaps naively trusted Qualcomm when they said they would support Linux. One can only hope the situation will be better for the next generation of SD.

Give me a break. Valve did it just fine even without vendor drivers:

Steam Frame Using Mesa's Turnip Vulkan Open-Source Driver - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

 

[LightningDust]

Give me a break. Valve did it just fine even without vendor drivers:

Steam Frame Using Mesa's Turnip Vulkan Open-Source Driver - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Valve did Linux without vendor drivers for the GPU. Now do the ISP, the codec blocks, power management, wifi/modem, device enumeration, etc, etc

I also suspect, by the way, that Valve is using Halium, and therefore cribbing heavily from what is available for phones. This is not common or desired practice for desktop Linux, as it inherits a bunch of dependencies on out-of-tree, out-of-distro-repos Android bits.

 

[NTMBK]

Most games aren't particularly SIMD-heavy.

Eh, it creeps in a few places. https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/...-in-unreal-engine-4-a-peek-behind-the-curtain

General purpose game code won't be terribly SIMD friendly, but core systems like animation runtime, physics engine etc will often be optimised for vector instructions.

 

[hemedans]

Give me a break. Valve did it just fine even without vendor drivers:

Steam Frame Using Mesa's Turnip Vulkan Open-Source Driver - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

As far as I understand 8 gen 3 was last soc supported by Turnip, all adreno 8xx soc don't have Turnip support.

 

[MS_AT]

Eh, it creeps in a few places. https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/...-in-unreal-engine-4-a-peek-behind-the-curtain

This leads to https://github.com/intel/projects/intel-ispc-in-unreal-engine-4-a-peek-behind-the-curtain which ends in 404. Do you have it archived somewhere?

 

[NTMBK]

This leads to https://github.com/intel/projects/intel-ispc-in-unreal-engine-4-a-peek-behind-the-curtain which ends in 404. Do you have it archived somewhere?

Bah, sorry, that used to be a working blog post! But ISPC is certainly still used in Unreal Engine (as you can verify yourself if you check the source), and will generate SIMD code for a range of architectures.

 

[Nothingness]

Valve did Linux without vendor drivers for the GPU. Now do the ISP, the codec blocks, power management, wifi/modem, device enumeration, etc, etc

Yeah, but who cares about a laptop that does proper suspend/resume /s

 

[Raqia]

Valve did Linux without vendor drivers for the GPU. Now do the ISP, the codec blocks, power management, wifi/modem, device enumeration, etc, etc

I also suspect, by the way, that Valve is using Halium, and therefore cribbing heavily from what is available for phones. This is not common or desired practice for desktop Linux, as it inherits a bunch of dependencies on out-of-tree, out-of-distro-repos Android bits.

My point is that it isn't some vendor conspiracy as the trolls on this board seem to think. Qualcomm is actually excellent at b2b customer support:

Qualcomm: Powering the Future of AI and IoT - The Shorty Awards

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shortyawards.com

(Also inb4 "Arduino is ruined" as the new terms of service only apply to the Arduino cloud service and not the projects themselves.)

It's simply that the resources needed to get a competitive Linux laptop to market profitably and in time before the next generation of SoCs dropped were too much for a small company.

 

[DZero]

Seems that this is it for Arduino. I guess that a spiritual succesor should appear soon