Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

[StinkyPinky]

Meanwhile the Tensor G5 will be hoping to get 2200/6500

 

[DZero]

Meanwhile the Tensor G5 will be hoping to get 2200/6500

It could be acceptable, this is the current leaked score

Google Tensor G5: specs and benchmarks

Google Tensor G5: performance tests in benchmarks (AnTuTu 10, GeekBench 6). Battery life and full specifications.

nanoreview.net

Meanwhile Exynos 2500...

Samsung Exynos 2500: specs and benchmarks

Samsung Exynos 2500: performance tests in benchmarks (AnTuTu 10, GeekBench 6). Battery life and full specifications.

nanoreview.net

ST 2522
MT 9015

The scores might be on par with Snapdragon 8s Gen 4

Qualcomm Snapdragon 8s Gen 4: specs and benchmarks

Qualcomm Snapdragon 8s Gen 4: performance tests in benchmarks (AnTuTu 10, GeekBench 6). Battery life and full specifications.

nanoreview.net

ST 2154
MT 6880

Heck, even Xiaomi with their Xring O1 could destroy Pixel

Xiaomi Xring O1: specs and benchmarks

Xiaomi Xring O1: performance tests in benchmarks (AnTuTu 10, GeekBench 6). Battery life and full specifications.

nanoreview.net

ST 3086
MT 9701

 

[mvprod123]

Microsoft commits to improve gaming on Arm-based Windows 11 PCs — "We’re developing new features that will enable more games to be played on Arm"

Microsoft has announced an update to the Xbox app that enables the ability to download Xbox PC games on Arm-based devices, while also committing to improving gaming on Arm devices as a whole.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[poke01]

Microsoft commits to improve gaming on Arm-based Windows 11 PCs — "We’re developing new features that will enable more games to be played on Arm"

Microsoft has announced an update to the Xbox app that enables the ability to download Xbox PC games on Arm-based devices, while also committing to improving gaming on Arm devices as a whole.

www.windowscentral.com

At this rate Steam will support WoA by the end of this decade.

 

[Farfle]

I just purchased a used Lenovo Ideapad 5(x) 2-in-1 tablet with the Qualcomm X Plus XP42 chip. I wanted to try out ARM after having owned so many x86 Ultrabooks. If ARM is the future, I want to get in early and try to understand the primary benefits, even if there's currently a strong headwind against it (eg, compatibility).

I've read this thread going back a year ago, and there's so much good technical info here regarding Qualcomm's X SoC. But the enthusiasm for it has died off considerably over the past 6 months and this has me worried. Anecdotally, more concerning is that big box stores like Best Buy no longer stock as many of these Qualcomm machines.

I fear that if Qualcomm really had an ace up their sleeve in regards to 2nd-gen X chip, we should have officially heard about it from their marketing teams by now. Otherwise, why risk such continued negative public opinion about their product without throwing a bone of hope and hype?

If the performance of 2nd-gen X is really as good as the leaks have shown, this should be shouted from the rooftops by QC! More, they should be selling a story of a possible Windows-on-ARM-only future and justify it by using Apple's currently dominant M-series devices as an example. They should be pushing hard an "existential moment for the Windows PC and we can save it" marketing message if you ask me!

Ok that's my rant, I hope this thread continues to get a lot of good discussion

 

[DZero]

I just purchased a used Lenovo Ideapad 5(x) 2-in-1 tablet with the Qualcomm X Plus XP42 chip. I wanted to try out ARM after having owned so many x86 Ultrabooks. If ARM is the future, I want to get in early and try to understand the primary benefits, even if there's currently a strong headwind against it (eg, compatibility).

I've read this thread going back a year ago, and there's so much good technical info here regarding Qualcomm's X SoC. But the enthusiasm for it has died off considerably over the past 6 months and this has me worried. Anecdotally, more concerning is that big box stores like Best Buy no longer stock as many of these Qualcomm machines. I fear that if Qualcomm really had an ace up their sleeve in regards to 2nd-gen X chip, we should have officially heard about it from their marketing teams by now. Otherwise, why risk such continued negative public opinion about their product without throwing a bone of hope and hype?

If the performance of 2nd-gen X is really as good as the leaks have shown, this should be shouted from the rooftops by QC! More, they should be selling a story of a future Windows-on-ARM-only possibility and to justify the change due to how currently-dominate the Apple M-series devices are. They should be pushing an "existential moment for the Windows world and we can save it" message if you ask me!

Ok that's my rant, I hope this thread continues to get a lot of good discussion

Qualcomm has now the issue of the GPU. For me CPU wise is already decent, but GPU is the issue now. If they fix that, QC would be on the game.

 

[Covfefe]

I just purchased a used Lenovo Ideapad 5(x) 2-in-1 tablet with the Qualcomm X Plus XP42 chip. I wanted to try out ARM after having owned so many x86 Ultrabooks. If ARM is the future, I want to get in early and try to understand the primary benefits, even if there's currently a strong headwind against it (eg, compatibility).

I've read this thread going back a year ago, and there's so much good technical info here regarding Qualcomm's X SoC. But the enthusiasm for it has died off considerably over the past 6 months and this has me worried. Anecdotally, more concerning is that big box stores like Best Buy no longer stock as many of these Qualcomm machines. I fear that if Qualcomm really had an ace up their sleeve in regards to 2nd-gen X chip, we should have officially heard about it from their marketing teams by now. Otherwise, why risk such continued negative public opinion about their product without throwing a bone of hope and hype?

If the performance of 2nd-gen X is really as good as the leaks have shown, this should be shouted from the rooftops by QC! More, they should be selling a story of a future Windows-on-ARM-only possibility and to justify the change due to how currently-dominate the Apple M-series devices are. They should be pushing an "existential moment for the Windows world and we can save it" message if you ask me!

Ok that's my rant, I hope this thread continues to get a lot of good discussion

If they hype up the next gen too much, it could negatively affect the sales of the gen1 chips. See the Osborne effect.

 

[Hitman928]

If they hype up the next gen too much, it could negatively affect the sales of the gen1 chips. See the Osborne effect.

What sales?

 

[Farfle]

I bought one

One of the slower ones, at that! I don't care if the absolute performance is that of M1 MacBook level (or even worse). I want the efficiency experience of said MacBook, the ARM-like feeling of instant-on, etc, that seems to go along with those chips. Plus I wanted to tinker with it, being an IT dude. Am I delusional in thinking these features on WoA is going to be just as good as they are on MacOS/iOS/Android? No, but I'm hoping they're a lot better than they are on x86 mobile computing.

 

[Tigerick]

I bought one

One of the slower ones, at that! I don't care if the absolute performance is that of M1 MacBook level (or even worse). I want the efficiency experience of said MacBook, the ARM-like feeling of instant-on, etc, that seems to go along with those chips. Plus I wanted to tinker with it, being an IT dude. Am I delusional in thinking these features on WoA is going to be just as good as they are on MacOS/iOS/Android? No, but I'm hoping they're a lot better than they are on x86 mobile computing.

How is experience so far? Curious to know from power user POV...

 

[igor_kavinski]

I bought one

Let us know particularly about the fan noise. Seems QC has a problem in general keeping their SoCs cool (it's kind of a recurring theme with their phone SoCs too).

Really interested in how far you get before x86 compatibility issues make you cuss at it

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

nubia NX809J - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a nubia NX809J with a Qualcomm ARMv8 processor.

browser.geekbench.com

3309 @ 4.17 GHz

edit: the interesting part is that everyone's favourite subtest has a ~40% higher score on the earlier run from a week ago.

samsung SM-S947U vs nubia NX809J - Geekbench

 

[Hesperax]

nubia NX809J - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a nubia NX809J with a Qualcomm ARMv8 processor.

browser.geekbench.com

3309 @ 4.17 GHz

edit: the interesting part is that everyone's favourite subtest has a ~40% higher score on the earlier run from a week ago.

samsung SM-S947U vs nubia NX809J - Geekbench

Previous result was Geekbench 6.4 while the latest one is Geekbench 6.3.

Geekbench 6.3 requires SME2 support to enable SME. Geekbench 6.4 can do either SME or SME/SME2.

8e2 has SME but doesn't seem to have SME2 (according to rumors). So, the GB 6.4 result has SME included while the GB 6.3 result does not.

 

[Magio]

Another good score especially considering the lower clocks and no SME, but I wonder when we'll see it at full clocks. Hope it won't be a case of only a fraction of chips achieving the top clocks.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Previous result was Geekbench 6.4 while the latest one is Geekbench 6.3.

Geekbench 6.3 requires SME2 support to enable SME. Geekbench 6.4 can do either SME or SME/SM2.

8e2 has SME but doesn't seem to have SME2 (according to rumors). So, the GB 6.4 result has SME included while the GB 6.3 result does not.

Good catch, didn't notice that.