Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

[DZero]

People that actually build phone SoCs would crucify you for this statement.

Also, the emulator developers would have a word with the one who made the statement.

Meanwhile, I can see why Apple can't get enough incentives to improve their CPUs, the PC ports of the games ended to be a failure and yeah... that's one of the scenarios it needs to fully use the CPU and GPU

High-priced flops: AAA games promoted by Apple fail to get sales

Confirming the fairly obvious, analysis of major iOS game launches including "Death Stranding" and "Assassin's Creed Mirage" has revealed that pricing games at console levels simply doesn't work in the App Store.

appleinsider.com

 

[poke01]

People that actually build phone SoCs would crucify you for this statement.

Well, it wouldn’t be the first time someone has been crucified for telling the truth.

From a user perspective that’s mostly what matters, battery life and stand by drain.

 

[poke01]

Also, the emulator developers would have a word with the one who made the statement.

This is a niche. Very few people buy flagship phones for emulation.

 

[DZero]

Well, it wouldn’t be the first time someone has been crucified for telling the truth.

From a user perspective that’s mostly what matters, battery life and stand by drain.

Remember, is a PHONE, without good signal, does not matter battery life at the 1st place.

 

[okoroezenwa]

Remember, is a PHONE, without good signal, does not matter battery life at the 1st place.

Eh, for some. For others good WiFi will do.

 

[DZero]

Eh, for some. For others good WiFi will do.

Sad story, since is a phone, signal is top. Reason? remember that we use the phones mainly for calls, the wifi is 3rd or 4th place if we consider battery life and stand by drain. Heck, even performance could be on the same tier.

 

[digitaldreamer]

Also, the emulator developers would have a word with the one who made the statement.

Meanwhile, I can see why Apple can't get enough incentives to improve their CPUs, the PC ports of the games ended to be a failure and yeah... that's one of the scenarios it needs to fully use the CPU and GPU

High-priced flops: AAA games promoted by Apple fail to get sales

Confirming the fairly obvious, analysis of major iOS game launches including "Death Stranding" and "Assassin's Creed Mirage" has revealed that pricing games at console levels simply doesn't work in the App Store.

appleinsider.com

Nobody buys Apple devices TO play games. On the other hand, people buy game consoles, buy PCs, and build PCs to play games.
Lots of Apple users have a game console or even a PC just for the games. IF they are into games.
As an example, I used to play games decades ago. And, I used to build my own PCs. None of that interests me anymore. I have other things I'd rather be doing, like working on microcontroller, robotics, other programming/scripting projects, etc.

Plus, having AAA games released on Apple devices months after the PC or console releases is not a winning formula. The hype has died off and most have already played the games on their consoles/PCs.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Someone ought to develop a long running MT benchmark for phones, so we can see how much MT performance suffers if you leave it running flat out for a while. Then maybe people will realize how ridiculous it is to even be comparing phone SoCs in MT.

Try the Extreme test: https://silver.urih.com/

 

[hemedans]

Who cares if Apple wins or loses in MT? If Apple went to 8 cores and took back the MT crown and the competition responded by going to 10 would you be saying Apple needs to go to 10? Does winning a benchmark, especially a MT benchmark, mean ANYTHING in the smartphone world?

Sure winning at MT is meaningful in the PC world because there are real world workflows that can use up all the MT performance you can muster. Such workflows are the exception rather than the rule, but they definitely exist and they are definitely important to those who run those types of loads.

There aren't any real world workflows on a phone that can soak up all the MT you can offer. There are just benchmarks for bragging rights in internet forums. Someone ought to develop a long running MT benchmark for phones, so we can see how much MT performance suffers if you leave it running flat out for a while. Then maybe people will realize how ridiculous it is to even be comparing phone SoCs in MT.

What about perfomace at low power?

Unlike desktop phone has limit of power consumption, usual can sustain around 5W, for more than 3 years now perfomance of Apple soc is almost same at Low power, in 2022 Apple was like twice efficient at low power but now 8 elite and D9400 managed to catchup.

Also those AAA games which Apple anounced aren't they choppy and most of them can't even sustain 30fps? Wouldn't more power at 5w help them?